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Recommend Me Some Fun Sci-fi

 
  

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Tryphena Absent
22:23 / 15.06.05
For silly fun- Orbital Resonance by John Barnes. For an epic read Cyteen by C.J. Cherryh. For classic reading always The Time Machine by H.G. Wells.

I like a lot of the authors in this thread but prefer different books by them, Antarctica by Kim Stanley Robinson, The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson, Synners by Pat Cadigan and hell, you've got to love Niven and Pournelle, even if you spend the entire time wondering if they write these books from the seats of their rocking chairs while listening to the star spangled banner.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
04:29 / 16.06.05
sort of on the Mote in God's Eye tack... Ringworld is pretty fun. I think there was a sequel, maybe more than one...but I read the first one and thought it was quite nice at the time.
 
 
Spaniel
05:52 / 16.06.05
Information on the Mote in God's Eye, please!
 
 
Spaniel
05:53 / 16.06.05
I hate it when a herd of posters ignore (or overlook) a question they could answer.
 
 
matsya
06:26 / 16.06.05
Can't help with Mote...

But I'd love to recommend Buckaroo Banzai, (click the link to read the first few pages) the novelisation of the film, which is much, MUCH better than the quite average movie.

Our hero, Buckaroo Banzai, Japanese-American rock star/theoretical physicist/secret agent/brain surgeon, fights criminals from the 8th dimension with help from the 8th dimension's police-force, who all appear as rastafarians to Earth-people. Buck is ably aided by his band/teammates, the Hong Kong Cavaliers, and the volunteer army known as the Blue Blaze Irregulars.

The book's told in a real pulpy style that shows great affection for the genre, and presents itself as one in a series of "real life novelisations" of the life and adventures of Buck Banzai, as written by Reno, one of the Cavaliers, with many references to previous adventures and the 'memoirs' Reno has written about them.

It's just fun, is all.

m.
 
 
Tabitha Tickletooth
11:34 / 16.06.05
I'd like to add Alastair Reynolds - all dense, satisfyingly lengthy and very fun space operas. The big novels all seem connected, but I thnk Revelation Space is the starting point. You could do worse than dip into Diamond Dogs (a novella most often found in a single edition with another called Turquoise Days) if you wanted a taster.

And everything by China Mieville if you want to come in from space.

Interested by the suggestions for Dan Simmons - I started off on a horror (Summer of Night - I'm sure it had a really crap cover as well) and never found my way any further. Will look to pick up Hyperion next time I pass it by.
 
 
Axolotl
12:11 / 16.06.05
Ok "The Mote in God's eye" by Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle. It's essentially a first contact novel between humans (of Pournelle's CoDominium) and the Moties. I'm at work now so can't give a lot of details but there is a good summary here (spoilers included). It's good quality hard science fiction. The politics are sometimes questionable, probably as Pournelle & Niven are both very right-wing, but in a libertarian, not a christian-fundamentalist, kind of way. This however doesn't stop it being a great read - kind of space opera crossed with hard sci-fi. In fact nearly all of Pournelle and Niven's work (both seperate and collaborative) is worth checking out, even with the above proviso about their personal politics.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:01 / 16.06.05
Oops... sorry, was out of the thread for a while. Phyrephox has got it pretty much nailed. Once you get past the dodgy politics (which aren't as dodgy as some, just a little... antiquated, maybe) and the chirpy "och aye the noo" Scots engineers, it's a really fun read, and has some great hard SF ideas, as well as some pretty funky aliens.
There's a sequel, which I haven't read, but I've been reliably informed it's a bit poo.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:02 / 16.06.05
quite average movie

OI! MATSYA! AAAHTSIDE!!! NAAAAHHHH!!!
 
 
This Sunday
22:10 / 16.06.05
'Mote in Gods Eye' does have a rightwingyness to it, but since that would be the sort of people your average government would be putting in positions like that, it didn't bother me much. The red-head-survivability trait is too silly to be taken seriously, and always struck me as a sort of Heinlein tribute, though it probably wasn't.
Nice book, overall, though it is a bit long for the quick-read and not, to my memory, very adventurous, in its happenings or its prose stylings.
There was a sequel, of which I can remember nothing.

I'm going to reiterate Stephenson's stuff, including 'Snow Crash' and 'Diamond Age'.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
23:29 / 16.06.05
Oh I didn't mention the two Rehumanization of Jade Darcy books by Stephen Goldin and Mary Mason, which are wonderful to read, horribly out of print and will probably never be elaborated on (which kills me because Jade has a story that hasn't reached any kind of conclusion) because Mary Mason is suffering from carpal tunnel syndrome and he won't write any sequels without her input. If you can get hold of a copy I really recommend either of them for a read that's fun and incredibly sci-fi but also has a great human element running through it.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
01:20 / 17.06.05
i think I read the Mote sequel but can't for the life of me remember a thing about it.

what i liked about Mote was the sense of mystery about the aliens...just that first contact thing...way cool.

does anyone have any idea what i would be talking about if i am remember some sci-fi book that had "Builders" in it, this ancient race of people that built some artifacts... am i thinking of Banks Culture stuff?
 
 
Jack_Rackem
03:31 / 17.06.05
Anything by Richard K. Morgan will do (Though I haven't read Woken Furies due to it not being out in the U.S. yet)

I'd also recomend Burrough's John Carter trilogy which is very well done swashbuckling Sci-Fi.

The University of Nebraska also publishes a good number of very early Sci-Fi novels that I highly recomend.
http://unp.unl.edu/books/bisonfrontiers/BisonFrontiers.html
 
 
matsya
05:12 / 17.06.05
[thread well rotted]

Well, that's not to say that BB doesn't have its cinematic charm, Stoatie - I'm a fan myself. It's just that it's one of those sort-of-impenetrable films that only work for those among us who've spent our whole lives filling in the gaps and forgiving the poor execution of films.

Sure, it's a great cast - Peter Weller, Ellen Barkin, Christopher Lloyd, Jeff Goldblum, John Lithgow, Clancy Brown... The ideas are there, they just don't come across in a completely coherent way, is allum sayin'. The book does the work much better, is allum sayin'.

[/thread well rotted]

m.
 
 
Spaniel
06:15 / 17.06.05
Thanks for the lowdown on the Mote, guys.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:45 / 17.06.05
Oh, going back to an earlier recommendation of mine, Pandora's Star by Peter F Hamilton- I'm getting near the end now, and it's really kicking quite substantial amounts of ass. (Unfortunately it's volume one of two, so I suspect the ass-kicking will shortly be put on hiatus). And parts of it are reminding me of Mote a fair bit, too, with the whole Big Military/First Contact thing going on. (Also, and atempting to avoid mild spoilers, it seems to take as its premise an idea I first came across towards the end of Mote).
 
 
The Falcon
14:06 / 19.06.05
S'funny, I was looking at my (fairly small) bookcase for something outlandish for the missus to read, and there was Look to Windward. Must've got it off my dad.

Perhaps it was secretly there all along.

I'm sure I've not read it.
 
 
Mistoffelees
16:12 / 19.06.05
A. E. van Vogt is a lot of fun to read. His novels are short, about 120 pages, and are really tight, packed with more ideas and twists than normally would be found in three or more SF books. He wrote for U.S. pulp magazines from the 1940s into the 1980s, and was Philip K. DickĀ“s favourite SF writer.

I have read and liked The War Against the Rull, The Silkie, The Proxy Intelligence and other Mind Benders, Future Glitter, The Wizard of Linn, Rogue Ship and Children of Tomorrow.

Borrowed from amazon.com:
"A.E. van Vogt is truly a grand master of science fiction. He is to Canadian SF what H.G. Wells is to the British variety or Jules Verne to the French. We all stand on his broad shoulders." --Robert J. Sawyer

"Nobody, possibly with the exception of the Bester of The Stars My Destination, ever came close to matching van Vogt for headlong, breakneck pacing, or for the electric, crackling paranoid tension with which he was capable of suffusing his work." --Gardner Dozois
 
 
Benny the Ball
17:24 / 19.06.05
Reynolds stuff starts well, but then cops out big time. I loved the dirty and used feel of the universe he created, but lost interest long before the end of each book.
 
 
The Falcon
19:26 / 19.06.05
Yeah, I just got the PKD Reader book, and about 40pgs in, there's already a load of mentions for Van Vogt.

I'm particularly curious about Slan, which was on Max Thunderstone's bookshelf in Filth #10.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
20:00 / 19.06.05
I've been meaning to get round to reading more Stanislaw Lem, after a friend of mine (a BIG Sci-Fi buff) recommended him and lent my a few short stories he'd printed from the interweb.

One story (I can't find it at the moment, but I'm still digging through drawers...) was about a machine that could make anything beginning with a specific letter of the alphabet (I think it was the letter "S"). I read it while intoxicated (hence the hazy memory), but I remember laughing, a lot.

Also, 'The Forever War' by Joe Haldeman is worth reading as well.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
20:09 / 19.06.05
Oh, and typing of "fun" Sci-Fi, have you read Kurt Vonnegut? (see this thread here for specific examples)
 
 
Benny the Ball
07:34 / 20.06.05
2nd Vonnigut (sorry can't spell).

Also the Martian Chronicles by Bradbury, and just about anything by John Wyndham should be checked out.
 
 
Axolotl
07:41 / 20.06.05
I add my support for John Wyndham. The man was brilliant at creating a sense of menace in his books. I especially like "The Kraken Wakes". One proviso, though excellent I don't know if I'd class his work as filled with "fun & adventure" as per the thread summary.
 
 
buttergun
13:44 / 20.06.05
Surprised no one's mentioned "Venus on the Half-Shell," by "Kilgore Trout." Came out in '75, it's that old-style sci-fi -- filled with sex, metaphysical philosophy, and lots of satire. Can be easily found if you look for it, though it might be lurking among the books of Philip Jose Farmer in your local bookstore -- Farmer used the Trout psuedonym after getting approval from Trout's creator Kurt Vonnegut, but Vonnegut later withdrew his approval. Venus turned out to be the only Trout book Farmer wrote, unfortunately.

Also, I'd put Illuminatus! at the top of any "fun sci-fi" list. It's my favorite novel ever, even though technically it was originally released as 3 separate volumes. Wilson & Shea intended it to be one complete book from the start, but Dell balked at the size of the book and split it up. Get this -- Dell also cut out about 500 pages from Wilson & Shea's manuscript! Apparently, those 500 pages are long lost.
 
 
Benny the Ball
15:24 / 20.06.05
Illuminatis! is fantastic - I'd add Schrodinger's Cat, just by Wilson, as it certainly fills the sci-fi fun and adventure angle, and is oft over looked, IMO, because of Illuminatus!
 
 
Benny the Ball
19:41 / 20.06.05
Just managed to grab a copy of Venus on a Half Shell, from amazon for 25p, fantastic
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
20:11 / 20.06.05
A Kilgore Trout novel! Wow! Oh thank you, thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!

I'd be interested to hear more about what Master Vonnegut thought about it. Time to do go a huntin'?

And "25p"? You lucky swine (joke)! Damn, I wish I had a bank account and a credit card.....
 
 
_Boboss
09:42 / 21.06.05
theodore sturgeon's stuff is nice. he be the real real kilgore trout. a bit 50s, flighty, idea-driven stuff about worlds rotting away through too much saccharine and not enough compassion. his books are all over the second hand shops (round my way) lately.
 
 
Axolotl
10:09 / 21.06.05
Yeah, Theodore Sturgeon does some excellent stuff. He's also the guy who came up with Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap.
 
 
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11:41 / 21.06.05
I'm reading 'The Telling' by Ursula K. Le Guin, at the moment, that seems to fit the type of thing you're looking for. It's well written aswell, as far as I've got.

She's also written some other good books as far as I know.
 
 
buttergun
14:28 / 21.06.05
About "Venus on the Half-Shell"...

The story goes that in the mid-'70s, Philip Jose Farmer was suffering from writer's block. This is funny when you consider that the guy's written 60-some books or so. Anyway, he had always been a Vonnegut fan, and re-reading one of his books, got the idea to do his own novel as Kilgore Trout. This got rid of Farmer's writer block in a big way, and pretty soon he'd come up with a ton of ideas for various "Kilgore Trout" books.

After a lot of begging, Farmer finally gained approval from Vonnegut. "Venus" was published soon thereafter by Dell, complete with a fake photo of "Trout" on the back -- in reality, Farmer just wearing a goofy beard. Farmer told his friends and associates that he was the true author of the book, but soon enough, people became suspicious. What finally began to irritate Vonnegut was when so many people would write him letters, saying how much they loved the book, thinking he himself had written it. Vonnegut then pulled the plug on the situation -- asking Farmer not to write anymore books, and requesting Dell not to publish anymore.

Farmer was upset, but respected Vonnegut's wishes. Vonnegut comes off as the bad guy -- he would state in interviews that Farmer was probably upset because he'd "made more money" from Venus than any of his other books -- the implied insult being that Farmer was only making this extra money due to the book's connection with Vonnegut himself. Finally, Vonnegut seems to have not only forgotten Farmer's name recently, he also seems to have forgotten that he personally gave approval for the project!

Anyway, Venus is best appreciated as a beaten-up paperback copy, preferrably the Dell original, or even the Laurel/Dell reprint from '81, which has the same cover. Recently there have been hardback reprints, but these totally go against the grain of what a "Kilgore Trout" book should be -- a forgotten, abused paperback lurking in some dank used bookstore.

You can see the various covers HERE.

Also, more detail on the book, how it was published, and the bickering that ensued can be found HERE.
 
 
buttergun
14:42 / 21.06.05
More Venus on the Half-Shell fun links:

More info on the book, as well as Vonnegut's comments on it, HERE.

And Farmer's comments from 1999 on the situation, including his rebuttal to Vonnegut, HERE.
 
 
Jack Vincennes
15:19 / 21.06.05
She's [Ursula Le Guin] also written some other good books as far as I know.

She certainly has -The Left Hand Of Darkness was one of the books I read and enjoyed at the start of the spring when I also decided that sci-fi would be the best thing to balance Murakami. It's set on another planet, but with not much space opera and lots of social politics -starts quite slowly, but it picks up well and it's an excellent story. chocolate recommended another upthread as well...
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
15:39 / 21.06.05
Cheers Buttergun. Much obliged.
 
  

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