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The Observer

 
 
Seth
10:42 / 02.06.05
As my practise has developed one of the most fascinating phenomena I’ve noticed is that of the active observer and the effect that has on changing one’s experience, sometimes even dictating the type of experience that can be had. My thoughts on the subject aren’t hugely coherent, so I thought I’d throw it out for more ideas to see what people think on this.

To begin with, I once did some timeline work with a bloke who was pretty well versed in physics. His timeline manifested as a beam of light from his future that refracted through a prism (the prism being his visualisation for the way in which his present related to his future) and then out into his past as a cone of dark energy. I’m using his own descriptions as much as I can remember them. His natural conceptualisation of his timeline was in about two metres away in front to of him (with the past on the left, present directly ahead and future on the right (a classic NLP through-time representation. Later in the intervention I enacted taking hold of this timeline under his guidance and positioned it so that it was in-time so that the past was behind him, future ahead of him, and the present intersecting through his body at his abdomen).

During the work he noticed that the beam of light from his future bent around his body at the periphery of his vision, and on intuition I asked him what was causing the beam to bend (I seemed to remember from somewhere that gravity can act on light and cause it to bend). He answered that it was a gravitational effect caused by his position in relation to the timeline: his position as observer was effecting his conception of his life as plotted along the line. I then asked him to test this by moving his position, which totally spun him out. Even the slightest movement on his part caused the future area of his timeline to swing wildly in different directions that accorded to each shift in his body.

The nature of the work we were doing and the fixed time limit on the exercise meant that we didn’t have time to explore this further. His intention in doing the exercise was to become more present in the here and now, more active and energised and alive. His perception of the prism was like a buffer between himself and his direct experience, in that he felt it was a device that would safely shield him from a direct relationship with his senses. This is understandable, as living can be hugely painful. During the exercise he directed my hands to remove the prism, and once we changed his perceptions to in-time he found this instantly restored his relationship to his body and senses. Colours became more vibrant, sounds became clearer and more crisp, his tactile and proprioceptive sense became more alive and sensitive. However I’d call this active work, and so the simple effect of his position as observer on his perception of his timeline wasn’t explored in greater depth. Although it does raise the question about whether observation is ever a passive process…

There’s a great deal of this in NLP: exercises that involve taking different perceptual positions in relation to your experience: observing it from different perspectives. For example the Meta Mirror is a relationship change technique that has four different perceptual positions. It first situates the client in position one and their conceptualisation of the person with whom they’re in a relationship in position two. From position three the client can observe both their self-conceptualisation in position one and their conceptualisation of the other person in position two at the same time. From position four all three prior conceptualisations can be observed. The client fully associates into each position until position four is assumed, from which they consider whether the version of themselves in position one or the version of themselves in position three is more suited to dealing with the relationship. This is more often than not the client who perceives the relationship from position three, as they have a perspective on the whole of the relationship and can thus see more of the complete picture. You then swap the two conceptualisations over (so that the conceptualisation in position three is situated in position one, and vice versa) and cycle through fully associating into each position again, noticing what has changed as a result.

The intention is to make the client more resourceful by swapping their stuck self with their resourceful observer self. When I first learned the technique I instantly began thinking of different applications. What if you chose the perceptual position of an omniscient benevolent being? Or what if you ran the technique on a writer who wanted to create character-driven narratives as a means of understanding how their creations relate to them as author, or ow they relate to each other. This strikes me as a particularly useful toolkit for investigating how the action of the observer effects the outcome of a situation. By making alterations to the person in position one (the client’s stuck self), the entire system changes, and their new expectations will have a knock-on effect of drawing out a different side of the person with whom they’re in relationship with.

Finally, I was specifically interested in a more wide-ranging discussion of some of the implications of the Post Modern Magic thread. In that thread I mentioned the effect that all preconceived notions have on our experience of deity: our beliefs set the frame for what we allow ourselves to experience. What other illustrations are there of this in magical experience? For example, so much shamanic literature includes journeying accounts that largely use the natural world as their basis. Does shamanic technique necessarily mean that our experiences will manifest in-journey through natural symbolism? Has our reading and research set the frame for the kind of things we’ll encounter?
 
 
grant
13:55 / 02.06.05
The Observer? I rarely read it, and never really trust it for magickal advice.

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It sounds like what you're describing is an elaboration of what Timothy Leary called "set" (as in "set, setting, dose" being the three variables for a psychedelic trip). It's an abbreviation for "mindset." If your set was screwy, you were bound for a screwy trip. If your set was shamanic, you'd have a shamanic trip.

Oddly, a lot of this stuff you describe (the prism and that) really just reads like practical postmodernism (the morass of relativism!). There always used to be a link between philosophy, science and metaphysics....
 
 
electric monk
14:13 / 02.06.05
I must tell you: I gained a new appreciation for the PoMo thread on a second read-thru, mostly due to the sections about experiencing divinity. It really made me reevaluate my relationship with what I consider my patron god. I have to wonder now how much I've been interacting with the idea of the god rather than the god-as-itself. I rather fear it's the former. *hanh* Much work to do.

To the topic at hand: I have noticed that the mindset with which I approach my Tarot readings has a significant impact on the feel of the reading and, indeed, the information that I'm presented with in that reading. A reading approached from a standpoint of "the cards are a symbol set laden with meaning which is drawn out by my subconscious" has a quality quite distinct from a reading approached from a standpoint of "the cards are a direct link to a divine messenger". The former tends to feel more inward, clinical and common sense-ical, the latter more intuitive and outside of myself.

Interesting that the term “mindset” cropped up in grant’s post and mine. Seems heavy with meaning and relevance here. Hope we can delve into it more.
 
 
Seth
07:44 / 03.06.05
grant: are you able to elaborate on either of those points? As ever my theory is quite a long way behind my experience.
 
 
illmatic
09:24 / 03.06.05
Seth: Will write something up other the weekend. I think the metaphors with which we talk about magick are hugely important and effect our practice i.e. "charging our sigils", "feeding our servitors". I've got some information on this process at work in science, which I'll dig out re-read and get back to you about.
 
 
grant
15:36 / 03.06.05
Am I able to elaborate.... hmm. I should be able to, but am afraid it'd all come out in a bit of a mash.

In textual analysis, one of the Big Modern/Postmodern Things was the realization of the text as a transaction between author and reader -- so as a result there's a lot of attention paid to what it means to receive text, or in the case of visual art, to observe.

I took an incredibly ill-fated (for me) class in this stuff in grad school... based around Techniques of the Observer by Jonathan Crary, but taking in Christian Metz's film theory and bunches of other stuff.

The main thing that comes to mind, actually, is Foucault going on about the Panopticon, a prison built entirely to make every prisoner visible to a central guard tower that prisoners couldn't see into -- they never knew when they were being watched. The observer was also the oppressor.

But there are all kinds of other observer constructions as well... in some ways, the observer is a co-creator, since the art-as-transaction cannot exist without the eyes what see it. Lots of implications, especially when you get into that whole world-as-text idea (and thus, viewer as co-creator of Creation).

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Most of the Leary stuff seems very closely related to the "reality tunnel" stuff you find in the Principia Discordia, which seems like the same thing you're getting at.

I think it's very informed by post-modern aesthetics.
 
 
Unconditional Love
16:15 / 03.06.05
mind set, mind fluid?

mind field?

the basic duality of self and other becomes present when one considers the possibilty of an observer, how set is the mind in the self imposition of self against that which it observes to obstruct the mind field.

minds buried in shifting sands, careful where you walk.

a point of time at this point is all time in this point is your time, perception is the point yet percieves the point, in the point your birth and death are at the same point, i am already dead, a fading memory, memory casts the illusion of progression, as if time has a direction to move in.

harvesting the time field.

to observe the observer and the observations upon how the observer is observing an infinite loop of seeing observers.
 
 
LVX23
17:32 / 03.06.05
This intersects with some ideas I've been trying to work out but are still a bit hazy. Deities are masks that allow the human mind to conceptualize inherently ineffable cognitive states. They're anthropomorphic constructs of language that lend definition and logical value to shared experiences that are ultimately beyond logic and language. In one sense they're universal to the human condition but the way we relate to them is much more personal. The mask that Horus wears for me will always be somewhat different than the one that's worn for someone else. The shared cultural aspects may be similar - this is the archived interface handed down to preserve the Horus thoughtform through time - but there will always be unique elements created by the individual. On this level, the mask of deity is co-created by the archetype and the individual accessing it.

On a more basic level the language we use to evaluate our surroundings and our selves is an interface that applies meaning to the world of our perceptions. In no-mind the world simply is, in it's purest state of pre-linguistic apprehension. We then paint it with language loaded with definition and association that gives meaning and emotive weight. If we label a dog as angry, then run away, does it matter if the dog was actually angry or not? We've defined it and acted based on the applied definition. To name a thing is to limit the thing. To take the above example further, if the dog is not angry but senses our fear and then becomes angry, then our associative definition has been made real by our own belief in it's validity. I think this sort of subconscious manifestation of our expectations happens all the time in our daliy lives. We send all sorts of subtle signals out to the world around us that betray the thoughts we keep inside and influence the state of our surroundings.

My personal feeling is that magick proceeds from attention and belief. We lend value and mindshare to deities and symbols by working with them and holding them in our thoughts. The collective weight of the Horus memeplex is measured by the number of minds subscribing to it. Of course some minds are deifying the meme while others may be fighting it outright (e.g. Xtians praying/working for the demise of pagan cults). Imagine the weight of belief held by the Biblical memeplex of Revelations. If enough minds subscribe to this meme and give it their belief, then this will be the myth that is manifest into reality and writes our future. The supporters of the Xtian apocalypse hold that belief in their minds and allow it to drive their actions. We're vehicles for the memes, for the godforms and their prescriptions. The real magick is cultivating the ability to drive your own vehicle - to be aware of the memes and associations working through you and to actively determine which you will propogate and which you'll weed out.

I'm rambling a bit, trying to work through some ideas, but the main point is that the observer carries beliefs and these beliefs inform their actions and the way they interpret their world. Like trying to determine if the dog is angry, we can only infer the true nature of the world from the data we measure. But our measurements are always colored by our expectations, by our beliefs and ingrained associations.
 
 
Unconditional Love
21:21 / 03.06.05
emptiness would also be another position lvx 23, from emptiness all shapes,forms become possible to assume, becoming nothing allows for limitless potentia, from the void issues forth creative evolution and other such blah de blah, riding a wave of babble on.
 
 
grant
15:48 / 04.06.05
hmm.

I think if you're truly empty, then communication breaks down -- no perceptions, see. No shapes. No trajectory. No meaning. No observer. No one's hearing the tree, so it might as well not ever have fallen.
 
 
LVX23
16:46 / 04.06.05
total emptiness is indifferentiable from total fullness. in either case, there isn't even a tree to fall. just plenum. this point is beyond observation since it's beyond duality. there is no I & Thou.
 
  
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