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Addititives in sweets that send Kids Hyper

 
 
Jimbo
19:26 / 30.05.05
I have just returned from a Weekend at my Mother in Laws house, during which time my Daughter was 'good as gold'. Because she was so good as a reward I got her some sweeties as a treat, but 1 hr after she had her pic n mix, she turned into a psycho bitch from hell. This has happened on other occasions and every time the common factor is the bag of sweets. Does anyone else have this problem and if so, are there manufacturers of sweets that dont put all the shit in? If any one has any info on what to avoid, and more importantly what actually are these addititves that have been declared safe to put in our foods, which to me are not safe if they can affect behaviour so much.

Or am I way off the mark is it just a sugar rush( i doubt)?
 
 
fuckbaked
04:58 / 31.05.05
I really don't know whether or not the additives in sweets can cause misbehavior, but I have a few suggestions that might help you determine if additives are haveing this effect on your daughter. The first is that you ought to try getting her sweets that don't have many additives in them. I don't know where you would get them in the UK, but where I live there are stores that sell organic food and health food, and these stores generally have a candy section where you'll find candies that don't have a lot of crap in them. Even if you don't have stores like this, you could read the ingredients of numerous different candies at your local grocery store to find candies that don't have a lot of strange stuff in them. They'll probably be the more expensive candies, and the ingredients will say things like "sugar, cocoa, vanilla extract..." rather than listing chemicals that you've never heard of. Most of the candies at regular grocery stores around here have lots of strange ingredients in them, the strangest (IMHO) is "natural and artificial flavors". This supposedly means that the company has a secret ingredient that they don't want to tell anyone about, so they can't duplicate the flavor, but I suspect that rather sketchy ingredients are sometimes called natural or artifical flavors so that the company doesn't have to tell the public what kind of crap they're putting into foods. It's also a bother that they do this because people with unusual allergies or who eat non-mainstream diets (like vegetarians) can't tell exactly what's in a food product and whether or not they can/should eat it. Other strange ingredients can be looked up on the internet or in the dictionary, so that you can find out what they are (did you know there are insects in some Snapple drinks? it's listed as something like 'extracts of cochineal'). Some ingredients that may look strange are probably harmless (like soy lecithin, which, according to this link "is extracted from soybean oil"). If you can't or don't want to avoid all strange ingredients, you might want to write down all the strange stuff in the candy before you give it to your daughter, and then write down how she behaved afterward, and over time you might be able to notice a pattern that indicates certain additives.

Something to think about is that in the situation you described, it might not have been the candy that caused your daughter's misbehavior. She might have felt as though she was under a lot of pressure to behave well while at your mother in law's house, and the stress might have contributed to her misbehavior once she was back in a familiar environment where she didn't have as much pressure on her. If you're generally giving her candy as a reward for enduring stressful situations, it might be that it's the stressful situations, rather than the candy, that's causing the misbehavior, even if the misbehavior doesn't start until she's out of the situation. I don't know whether she would find your mother in law's house to be a stressful situation, as that really depends on the dynamics of your family, but it's something to consiter.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
16:41 / 31.05.05
It's sugar, dude. Same goes for drinks.

No fizzy = angel.
Coke/Sprite/Whatever = sociopath.

Sweets = schizoid marauder.

Avoid that shit. And stuff high in salt as well. (McD's etc., as if you needed another reason)
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
18:22 / 31.05.05
watch out for:

cyclamate
nutrasweet

cyclamate is only to be taken under the advice of a physician (I think this is the stuff in Sweet 'n' Low), as indicated on the package... I never saw a physician at any of the coffee shops that provided the stuff.

aspartame is linked to all kinds of nasty neurological & immunological problems, lupus, Muscular Distrophy, Alzheimer's, Gulf War Syndrome (ie heat + diet coke = formaldehyde) - decide for yourself. ask Google.

Nutrasweet was developed by Monsanto, which has proven time and again to be EVIL, and also has been linked to all kinds of problems.

I haven't researched it much, but have heard arguments for both sides. Funny, Monsanto insists that these products are safe, however, the impartiality of any cited studies is suspect.

hope that helps
ta
pablo
 
 
Jimbo
19:30 / 31.05.05
Thanks for those replies, I've got a nagging feeling it's the additives. I've let her have sweets at other times and not as rewards, and the psycho behaviour soon follows. Its impossible to negotiate or reason with her when this happens. I have decided to withold the sweets altogether and see how it goes!
Cheers
James
 
 
delta
15:23 / 01.06.05
I'm hyperactive and I find that as long as I cut out -all- 'warm' artificial food colourings I'm fine. That means anything that artificially has red, yellow, orange or pink in it. Red sourced from coccineal (which is indeed made from bugs) is perfectly safe, as is anything from fruit.

Interestingly all the evil ones have different effects. After a bit of experimentation conducted by my folks when I was small, we found that the worst two are called 'sunset yellow', otherwise known by the snappy moniker E110, and Tartrazine (E102). Orange squash turns me into a homicidal maniac. That was fun.

I think there's a paper out somewhere that does all kind of placebo and double blind testing and eventually finds that although clinical trials prove nothing in particular, parents do note behavioural change when kids are exposed to certain colourings, regardless of whether or not they're already hyperactive.

There's a bunch of information here that refers to the trial.
 
  
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