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Whether weather affects Magick.

 
 
Olulabelle
23:45 / 25.04.05
In another thread, Gypsy wrote this: It's a very different form of spirituality developed by people in a very different climate with different concerns and methods of survival. Does that make it any worse or better? and it got me thinking.

I started thinking about how the Norse hunted wild animals in order to survive (to eat and to keep warm) because they lived in a country where the temperature was cold most of the time, and so they needed the animal skins for warmth and and not just the meat of the animal to stay alive.

But in warmer climes there was less emphasis on killing for survival, for example the Amazonian presumably would have placed much less emphasis on skins for warmth and in fact meat for food since they had plentiful vegetation and fruit available to them.

So...yes. I'm not really sure what I'm trying to say here, but I think I think that perhaps the most fundamental basics of living would have affected how these peoples practiced their spirituality.

I know it's a complete generalisation but when I think of the Norse, I think of fighting and feasting and survival of the fittest. Not quite the Eden idyll of living in the middle of a rainforest. And I know that the Amazonian would have had their fair share of fighting and danger (in the way of scary spiders) but it doesn't seem quite as polarised as the Norse 2-element (fire/ice) system.

The Amazonian existence afforded them the time to discover Shamanic plants and to fully develop a method of communication with the spirits. They had ample opportunity to experiment and I think this is partly due to the climate they evolved in. They simply didn't have to put all their energies into hunting to stay alive.

I think also climate affects us nowadays in our magickal lives. I know for me it is frustrating when I want to go into the great outdoors but the weather is completely inclement. If I lived in California, for example, I wouldn't be faced with weather as a magickal obstacle, unless I was looking for rain! Equally, if I had lived a few hundred years ago, the weather would have had a profound effect on my everyday life, much more than it does now with my central heating and my warm winter coat.

So, do you think climate is an inextricable determining element of the spirituality of a given people?
 
 
illmatic
13:26 / 26.04.05
First thing that springs to mind is the work of James De Meo and his book Saharasia. He's a student of Wilhelm Reich's orgonomy (who was I think making cloudbusters at one point), and it's his thesis that "armouring" and the whole patriarchal system has it's origin due to specific climatic conditions (drought etc) in the middle east at some point in pre-history (around 4000 BC, I think).

I haven't read this book, though I should, as it's probably the biggest "Reichian" publication for quite some time. I think one of the reasons I haven't bothered is a distrust of "totalising narratives" - I'm extremely sceptical of the basic thesis, and think at it's worst, it lends itself to all kinds of racism and prejudice (see the comment in the link - "ever wondered why there's so much terrorism in the middle east" - sheesh, I thought it had something to do with years of colonial misadventure and resource control) but I thought it was worth mentioning.

On a personal note, lately I've been observing patterns in the weather and noting them down, alongside moon phases to see if this has any effect on dreams etc. Doesn't seem to so far, but the observation of clouds, atomosphere etc is absolutely fascinating and something I'm inclined to buy a few books on.
 
 
Sekhmet
14:38 / 26.04.05
I believe there's an anthropological view holding that environment, including climate and terrain, impacts every aspect of culture, from language and costume to cosmology, theology and magical practice. If myth and magic arise out of observed phenomena in nature - mankind's efforts to explain and/or control seasons, the movements of heavenly bodies, weather, animal migrations, etc. - then one would expect mythology to differ according to variations in climate and ecology.

For example - in most cosmologies, the sun is considered to be a "male" entity and the moon "female". However, in the Norse myths, the sun is "female" and the moon "male". One plausible explanation is that in a warmer, more equatorial climate, where people experience long summers and occasional periods of drought, the sun would be viewed as a powerful, potentially destructive force, and therefore be characterized as "male". In a cold, Northern clime, with short growing seasons and long freezes, the sun would be viewed as a nurturing, life-giving "female" force.

You construct your belief system and prcatice around what you know and what you need. Environment directly impacts that. People living in a desert, the mountains, the Arctic, a large city, or a coastal fishing village are simply going to have different ideas about the world.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
15:11 / 26.04.05
Sekhmet, I'd reccomend you take a look at Janet McCrickard's Eclipse of the Sun as she argues, quite persuasively, that Sun Goddesses turn up on every continent and that the polarisation of sun gods/moon goddesses is, if anything, down to modern cultural biases. Two other authors who've also published works on Sun Goddesses (though I haven't read either) are Patricia Monaghan and Sheila McGrath - there's a review of McGrath's The Sun Goddess: myth, legend and history here by the late Asphodel Long.
 
 
Sekhmet
15:48 / 26.04.05
trouser - good call. I am actually aware of at least a couple of other cultures with sun goddesses. (I said most other cultures, not all - but perhaps sumbunall would have been better?)

So perhaps an overgeneralization on that particular example. A little research could probably turn up something better.
 
 
Sekhmet
13:31 / 27.04.05
The anthropological view I was thinking of has apparently gone under several names over the years as modifications are made to the theory... any of the following terms might be good jumping-off points for more research. I'm going to look into it a little deeper myself; this is interesting stuff.

environmental determinism
cultural ecology
ecosystem model
ethnoecology
historical ecology
 
  
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