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Classic albums of the noughties so far...

 
  

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Seth
03:24 / 24.04.05
five years in and from that list anyway, there's a feeling that the 21st century hasn't really got going yet from the top 100 albums of all time thread.

So we're about halfway through this decade.

For me, there have been a few albums released in recent years that are so essential to my wellbeing that I become nervous and agitated if I'm prevented from listening to them for longer than a week.

So rather than simply listing whatever we got last week that we think is alright, let's make this about records that have come out since 2000 that have stood the test of time and overplay on our stereos.

Proper write-ups, please. People might want to buy some of these based on your recommendation.
 
 
This Sunday
05:05 / 24.04.05
New Pornographers - Electric Version
Pop, witty, filled with lines that are either brilliant or just don't make sense, but always sublime. Even at moments that would, in other musical hands, be depressed and panicked, angst is completely filtered away and replaced by something extant-apart. Incredibly simple music and lyrics are arranged and developed along paths that make them catchy as hell and a pain to dissect-to-see-what-does-what-and-what-works.

Scissor Sisters - Return to Oz
Everyone seemed to love the band for five minutes and then forget they ever existed. I, on the other hand, will continue to love them and the album, even when I'm old(er) and miserable(r).
Lovely sardonic stuff. A functional concept album that doesn't get ahead of itself, it only fails as a 'greatest hits' album by not including their entire repetoire - and how often can you say that? The one cover included ('Comfortably Numb') is better here than when Pink Floyd did it ages ago.

Elvis Costello - When I Was Cruel
Best album he's ever done. This is not opinion, but fact. Well, it's a really strong opinion, anyway.
I like a slightly happier sound than the mainstream, apparently. This is what a happy, giddy Morissey album would sound like, if the Smiths had been composed of the Mothers of Invention - but, not.

And, things that maybe should/shouldn't qualify, but I'll list anyway, and if anybody's interested I'll go into more detail: Patti Smith - Trampin'
Chicks on Speed - Will Save Us All
Weezer - Maladroit
Mari Ijima - No Limits
Peaches - Fatherfucker
all in a supposed retrospect way.

But it's going to be the miserable soulless commercial pop machine singers that will be remembered by most, most strongly. I'd like to say it's Tom Waits, Nine Inch Nails or, hell, even Danzig who'll be the crowning moment of the decade - even somebody completely new who just explodes onto the scene and madly drops away just as we're getting a taste, but it's not the way the mainstream seems to work. I mean, have you ever polled a random room of people on who John Cale or Blind Lemon are? Our ignorance and bad taste staggers me, mostly because I too possess too much of both. It's that 'if it ain't on the radio or in a car commercial' thing, kills off some of the best. Just like there's a 'Michael Bolton era' or 'Debbie Gibson years' for somebody. Two years ago will be remembered for that absurdly annoying 'butterfly' song.
Two months ago will be remembered as that era of confusion where Miss Kitten and The Transplants were hocking hair products, Tom Waits wasn't hocking cars but it seemed like it for a moment, and Loretta Lynn released a hugely wonderful album (with Jack White, which actually made me rethink my position on him) and nobody seemed to have listened to it.

When did the last NIN album come out? (Not the new one, I mean, but the last one that was 'the new one.')
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
15:29 / 24.04.05
If you mean 'The Fragile', it was 1999.
 
 
Ganesh
19:27 / 24.04.05
Scissor Sisters - Return to Oz
Everyone seemed to love the band for five minutes and then forget they ever existed.


Every time they release a single or appear on the box, the album goes back to number 1 and presumably reaches a whole new swathe of the populace; I don't think it's been forgotten at all.

Completely agree with it as a classic, though.
 
 
Brigade du jour
21:45 / 24.04.05
I may be a bit pedantic here, but isn't the album just called 'Scissor Sisters'? Or have I missed something?
 
 
The Falcon
22:34 / 24.04.05
's what I thought. Dexy's with more'n one (two, then) hit, anyway.

I dunno if I'm that massive a fan (I mean I own it, but I don't really listen to it much,) but Kanye's 'College Dropout' seemed to mark a real rehooking of hip-hop to its' predicates; gospel, soul, you know, in a way that had not yet happened ('Pretty Toney' did much the same three weeks later, I know.) I read a quote just after, somewhere, said something to the effect of 'hip-hop is Motown' which kinda clicked for me, given how much I used to like my dad's records of that era, much more so than any of his other gear, and it occurred that such a thing probably wouldn't have made sense, couldn't have been written when the Wu were riding high, 'Can It Be...' excepted.

Good topic; I'd like to see it genericised a bit - have there been any classic metal albums in C21? 'Lateralus' just makes it (2001/02,) aye?
 
 
Brigade du jour
22:49 / 24.04.05
Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, I suppose.

Why? Umm ... well I know fuck all about hip hop/urban/rap/I-don-t-know-what-you-call-it-because-as-I-just-pointed-out-I-know-fuck-all-about-it, but there's a long thread about this album made up plenty of 'Lithers who can probably shed far brighter light on it than me. But it came out in 2003, so I thought I should at least mention it.

Or failing the entire last paragraph, it's just a fucking wicked album. I prefer the TLB myself, but I've come to realise that it's mainly because it reminds me of Prince. A lot.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
06:56 / 25.04.05
The Icarus Line - "Mono" and "Penance Soiree" are both tops. "Come With Us" by the Chemicals is fiendishly strong. "Discovery" by Daft Punk. And I'm going to close with "Deloused in the Comatorium", because I think it's quite a jolly listen and I know listing it will piss a load of people off.
 
 
Benny the Ball
07:09 / 25.04.05
2nding Speakerboxxx/Love Bellow - was one of the last albums I bought in cd format. Love Bellow gets all the attention (mainly due to Hey Yeah!) but I really like Speakerboxxx over all.

When did Black Cherry come out? I'd put that up as well, the perfect blend of sexy/dirty goldfrapp voice and electro-pop music.
 
 
lonely as a cloud...
07:12 / 25.04.05
Thirding Speakerboxx/Love below, and also Scissor Sisters. I reckon Morrissey's You Are The Quarry will stand the test of time, too. Possibly also Franz Ferdinand.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
07:17 / 25.04.05
FF are kind of obnoxious. Have you given any Gang of Four a listen?
 
 
haus of fraser
08:38 / 25.04.05
A rough start on classics for the 00's so far...

Outcast Speakerbox/ The Love Below
(I think it could be a while before Hey Ya is reclaimed though... Come on eileen for a new generation...)
Goldfrapp 'Black Cherry'
(Classic pop moment- need i say anymore..)
DJ Danger Mouse 'The Grey Album'
(an era defining moment- largely cos it was the first album where you pretty much 'had' to break the law to download and get it- I got it and I loved it- listening to to encore right now)
At The Drive In 'Relationships of Command'
(I just started listening to this again at the weekend- just scrapes in as it was released sept 2000 and pisses all over anything done by Mars Volta)
The White stripes 'White Blood Cells'
(it was that slow burn thing where over the course of a year everyone you knew got this album- making it imho much more of a classic than the megastores fave Elephant)
The Avalanches 'Since I Left You'
(How can you not get a smile when this record comes on)
The Buff Medways 'Steady The Buffs'
(Billy Childish back with a band that sound great in every single way)
The Flaming Lips 'Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots'
(again like the white stripes album one that slowly crept into everyone's record collections)
The Sleepy Jackson 'Lovers'
(My favourite album of the decade probably- I fell in love with Good Dancers when I first heard it and loved every track on the record- I don't know if other barbelites will remember it as fondly as I do but, to me its a bonafide classic)

There are others that I don't know how they'll whether against the tests of time- largely cos they're newer releases and I've lived with almost all of the above for over a year.
 
 
lonely as a cloud...
10:22 / 25.04.05
Sandra - have listened to Entertainment! Prefer FF.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
12:03 / 25.04.05
 
 
This Sunday
12:45 / 25.04.05
Did the 'Yoshimi...' Flaming Lips album actually come out in the last five years? I had that pegged around '98, for reasons I cannot explain. If the date checks out, yes, this one definitely goes on.
Why does Outkast's offensiveness ('Hey Ya' and the really inane and racist stage show, et cetera) offend me too much to enjoy their music? I can listen to other musicians who offend me, without it damaging the sound. Am I just touchy, are they just not that good, or something between?
Which brings me to the chicken in black's last album (American something something, which I have just now forgotten)... if he'd not have died, maybe I'd still be all caught up in his BS crimey history and his 'they can eat my shit,' stance when brought on charges for polluting with his crap septic system years ago... but he did die, and it was a damned good album, and it definitely stands as a reflection of the times, I'd say.
And, yes, I was wrong about the Scissor Sisters album, which is actually just self-titled, after all. Again, cannot explain satisfactorily why I was wrong.
 
 
haus of fraser
14:08 / 25.04.05
Yoshimi was 2002- time flies when your having fun!

The jurys still out in my mind on the Franz thing- i loved the album and Take me out was one of the tunes of last year- but there's always that downside to a band you like breaking really big - their tunes are everywhere and eventually they start to grate a little. However I'm sure that in hindsight FF will be recognised as producing a 'definitive' album of the 00's- even if say (like me) you think The Futureheads did something similar better- they haven't broken the mainstream in the same way.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:49 / 25.04.05
Mr Falconer- on a metally kind of tip, I'd say Mastodon's "Leviathan", but especially "Killing Joke" by Killing Joke. (The "new" one, obviously, not the album of the same title released in 1980). Rhtyhmic, grinding, WAY more energetic than people that old should be allowed to be; obviously it's too early to tell, but I'm guessing this'll be timeless.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
16:16 / 25.04.05
Eh. FF have made an album my cuntiest flatmate plays too loud, too much. I can't really be objective about them, or even subjective in a fair way.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
16:26 / 25.04.05
I'm a little unsure about the FF album... I absolutely adored it the first time I heard it. And the second. And the third. And listened to it constantly. After about a week, I just couldn't listen to it anymore, and haven't since. I know that's not actually their fault, but it leaves me... a little unsure. As I said at the beginning of this post.
 
 
haus of fraser
16:42 / 25.04.05
Yup Franz soon got a bit overbearing- i think a lot is riding on theirt next album- if its out soon (current reports suggest autumn) then I could be converted back to loving their thang- but as I said i really think you need the distance to decide. On the same lines I didn't include The Lyre of Orpheus/ Abattoir Blues cos i don't know how it'll stand up in a couple of years time- I suspect it may be remembered but that could be me just getting excited over Nick Cave with a gospel Choir.

Blur's Parklife was played to death during the mid ninties and went from being an album I loved to one i loathed- i put it on a couple of months back for the first time in about ten years- it was bloody great (ok i couldn't face Parklife and skipped it) Girls and Boys is still a fucking killer pop tune as is Tracey Jacks- go listen its great again- time has healed the wound...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
16:49 / 25.04.05
Speculatively, a lot for me is riding on the new NIN album. "The Downward Spiral" would definitely be one of my classic albums of the 90s, and I have higher than high hopes for With Teeth.

This thread reminds me of the first time I heard Primal Scream's "Exterminator", and was gushing to everyone about how "it's the first true classic album of the new millennium". Listening to it now, it's still a great album, but I may have been a bit hasty with the "c" word.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
16:53 / 25.04.05
As in Bobby Gilespe is a cunt?

S'alright. Swastika Eyes is the only one that still stands up for me.
 
 
The Falcon
16:56 / 25.04.05
Yeah, I've heartd good things from trustworthy people (inc. you, now) on Mastodon, but never actually heard them. Should check it.

I liked Tomahawk's 'Mit Gas' a lot, but more for its' extenuation on my own youthful music loves; FNM, Helmet, Melvins... than any 'classic' status.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
20:08 / 25.04.05
Must add to the Franz dissing, they aren't bad but I'm yet to be convinced that they have much to recommend them than a cute frontman, the prosecution calls 'Michael'...

I'd suggest the Radiohead Kid A/Amnesiac/I Might be Wrong trilogy,

Godspeed You Black Emperor!'s Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven

Boards of Canada, Geogaddi, though I'm possibly only nominating this because I WANT to nominate Music Has The Right to Children but can't.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
20:15 / 25.04.05
Mmm. Difficult not to simply list albums that I just really like here.

I'd nominate Lightning Bolt's Wonderful Rainbow, just because it was such an immediate throat-grabbing record for me, and so many of my friends. Just the pure joy of insanely hard guitar and drum work played by a couple of maniacs. Best drug music of recent times. Amazing live. Brian Chippendale also makes fairly wonderful comics.
Just very very fresh.

I'd also like to nominate a hip hop album, but dayaaamn if it ain't a hard call. For me it's a toss up between
Ghostace's Pretty Toney and Madvillainy by MF Doom and Madlib. With Kanye's album bubbling under cos i predict his next may be even better.
Both Ghostface and Doom/Madlib manage to combine shameless old-school revivalism with new and interesting ideas, whilst not forgetting the simple joy of tight rhymes and sick beats.
I love what the Neptunes have done, but can't think of the definitive album release by them, so Tony Starks and the Metalface nail it.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
00:12 / 26.04.05
Basement Jaxx - Rooty. Kish Kash was way too fucking spotty. Stankonia kicks the shit out of what Outkast went on to do next (IE lose it and just get dead annoying) out and I think it's 2000 vintage.
 
 
snowgoon
11:44 / 26.04.05
I'll second the Grey Album by DJ Danger Mouse (and throw in anything by the Kleptones as well), and GoldFrapp's Black Cherry.

As for "original" music I'd say:
The Go! Team: Thunder Lightning Strike
SHOULD be one of the albums of the decade purely because it's original in the extreme and withstands multiple re-listens.

GoTan Project: La Revancha del Tango
A wonderful mix of latin america and hiphop beats. Gorgeous.

Royskopp: Melody A.M.
Well everyone's got it, right?

And both Kings of Leon albums for some good rock music.
 
 
Dxncxn
13:49 / 26.04.05
To me the word ‘classic’ implies a cultural significance which I wouldn’t claim for any of my favourite albums of the decade so far - ‘Sea Change’ by Beck, ‘All Is Dream’ by Mercury Rev, ‘When’ by Vincent Gallo and ‘The Crook Of My Arm’ by Alasdair Roberts. The Vincent Gallo might end up as a Skip Spence or Gene Clark-style hipper-than-thou fanboy-favourite, but certainly none of them are ‘Nevermind’ or ‘It Takes A Nation Of Millions...’ or whatever.

I’d agree that the Outkast album and ‘White Blood Cells’ are likely inclusions on future all-time lists, and figure that ‘A Rush Of Blood To The Head’ would definitely feature as well. Assuming, of course, that such lists are still being made given the - I would argue - more and more fragile status of the album as the primary measure of these things.

(Apologies if this is kind of tangential. Like I say, ‘classic’ in the thread title - and ‘landmark’ in the abstract - sent me off in a direction that maybe wasn’t what was actually being asked. And also for the massed hyphens at the end of the first paragraph. It's a thing I can't seem to get away from.)
 
 
+am
00:57 / 27.04.05
i'd reckon:

cloudead- cloudead (woozy psychedelia featuring synths and samples and awesome lyrical flows, bringing both the tech-synth heads and the hiphop heads, and even the alt-rock kids together for one breathtaking album that still sounds like nothing else)

mogwai- happy songs for happy people (the subtle pinnacle of 9 years of post-rock action, beautiful and immensely powerful, utilising guitar synth and drums in strange new ways that bring a tear to the eye and a resonance in the soul. every single time it is played brings new understanding, new insight, new pleasure.)

radiohead- kid A, amnesiac, hail to the thief (they were told to produce the bends 2, they produced OK Computer. they were told to produce OK Computer 2, they made three visionary albums that alienated longtime fans, made mainstream critics froth in the mouth, and contained songs that sounded like being in the sealife centre, portsmouth (treefingers). but, hot damn, these albums contained fantastic tracks and, on further listening, formed a coherent and audacious vision of the future of rock/pop music. they refuse to stay still and pander to the masses, they relentlessly plunge forward into territories unknown, with only their sense of melody and morality to guide them)

a silver mount zion and tra lalala band memorial orchestra- this is our punk rock, thee rusted satellites gather and sing (choral chanting, mournful string orchestras, distorted guitar fills, cracked impassioned vocals, the sound of 21st century western society falling into the abyss while a rag-tag band of human survivors looks on and laments what has passed)

late contenders:
the arcade fire- funeral (takes it up where bright eyes left off, anthemic orchestral relevant indie rock with boy girl vocals and big ideas)

antony and the johnsons - i am a bird now (multitracked ethreal yet gritty nina simone vocals from tall transvestite who grew up in cheshire but relocated to new york, jazzy dark accompaniment, stellar guest stars, but lets return to that voice, that sense of longing, the dark tragic sense of alienation, that SOUL, maaan. )
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
10:39 / 27.04.05
Silver Ginger Five - 'Black Leather Mojo'

Released first in 2000, released a few weeks ago with additional material... utterly incendiary. It's Ginger (singer/songwriter from the Wildhearts) trying to make his glam rock album, having made his industrial metal album shortly before the Wildhearts split in 1998 (1997's brutal Endless Nameless), his techno-pop album a year or so before (1999's Clam Abuse album 'Stop Thinking' with Antiproduct's Alex Kane), and his proper metal album (Super$hit 666, which I still haven't heard).

And oh my God but 'Black Leather Mojo' is amazing. Ginger seems unable to write to order without stamping his own touch on the song, so despite the 'glam' remit, this is quintessential Ginger - riff after riff after motherfucking riff, virtually complete disregard for any standard rock songwriting tradition, gorgeous hooks that most bands would build an album around thrown away as middle eights, mobhanded shouts of backing vocals side by side with stunning harmonies... and the tunes. Good god, the tunes. This is vintage AC/DC in lipgloss and platforms, Motorhead in skintight leopardskin. This is every dirty, sweaty rock n' roll band you fell in love with that your mum wouldn't let you go see live, fed through a Top Of The Pops filter. This is the only time I'm ever going to use the noxious phrase - but this is joycore.

'Sonic Shake' is the best album opener I've heard for five years. Opening riff to verse to soaring bridge to belting second bridge to screaming kids on the chorus to thunderous repetition of opening riff. 'Too Many Hippies (In the Garden Of Love)' sounds like Slade played by Atari Teenage Riot. And 'Brain Sugar' is a delirious pisstake/homage to the Stones, and is more pop than pop itself.

It's. That. Damned. Good.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:20 / 27.04.05
...I think I need to hear that...
 
 
Tryphena Absent
12:40 / 27.04.05
RZA- Birth of a Prince

Because it's far better than most of the albums mentioned in this thread so far. And that's really all the write up it needs.
 
 
Seth
12:45 / 27.04.05
It is indeed.

I'm glad JtB wrote at length on that album. Because otherwise there's not a great deal on this thread that makes me excited enough to want to rush out and spend money I don't have.

Come one! We're supposed to be talking about records we think are the best of the best. What should this decade be remembered for?
 
 
haus of fraser
08:31 / 28.04.05
Seth what would you nominate?
 
 
Seth
10:26 / 28.04.05
I'm working on it, dude. I started writing my post to this thread yesterday, and I'm a bit worried that it'll read like war and peace by the time it's done.

Still it's an important subject, one that requires passion and depth and a bit of an enthusiastic rant. So it'll appear on here when it's good and ready.

And yes, I am a little disgusted that this thread hasn't exploded into gushing sentiment, hyperbole, ludicrous claims about albums that have *saved your life* and open hero worship.

Did John Peel die on the cross at Calvary for nothing?
 
  

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