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20:16 / 12.09.01

Ok, how do you hold conversations with godforms and servitors. I've worked with gods but it was more like you do this I'll do that, GO! And I've created a servitor to be interactive but, although it's been very helpful, it doesn't say a peep! How do I actually get a two sided conversation out of these shy things!

04:43 / 17.09.01

Cell phones are a nice way..

and have you been calling collect? remmber dial down the center..umm anyways i'm not to shure but look for an Author called DJ conway.. or something he has very good infromation.

09:04 / 20.09.01

It all depends on what kind of response you actually expect to get. I tried my ass off for awhile to talk to Brad Nowell from Sublime in the same way King Mob did with John Lennon.

After lots of acid, mediatating, pot smoking, holding parties in his favor, and even deadicating love making sessions to him(guy hasn't gotten laid in a few years) I never once got that type of response. Although thats not to say I didn't get one at all.

This shit is all so subjective. It's all in how you take things. I've had Sublime songs come on the radio at key moments for me(when I'm baked as shit driving around, or I've had a REALLY tough day at work). I got a little handier with the six string. And once on acid while staring at a cieling fan I could almost see his face come out of some kinda geometrical patern. But then again as I said I was on acid.

It's hard to be sure if you're connecting the dots to a picture thats really there...or is it all just random dots and you make the picture. Does it matter? Not really to me anymore. If nothing less think of it as home made entertainment.

Another thing no one on here bothered to tell me back when I asked questions non-stop: Don't worry about exact rituals. I know that it seems like if you follow some kinda instructions things will HAVE to work out. Use your better judgement. There is no specific sylable paring thats gonna make a God appear. It's all inside of you.

01:02 / 21.09.01

Some magicians favor the use of pendulums to facilitate conversations (Jason Black and Chris Hyatt gave an example of one session with a spirit that took hours and the pendulum was the main nexus for the conversation). If you aren't proficient in going to the realms of the spirits then the pendulum gives the spirit a means for speaking in the physical world.

Using a pendulum takes some practice (like everything else) and it also takes knowing yourself and when you are influencing the questions and answers but it's a great divination tool that is quite different than most.

The Knowledge

14:24 / 02.10.01

The pendulum is DA BOMB. I work with I.G.O.S. style magic (with a bit of Brujo Negro necromancy thrown in) and my pendulum is essential to my working with the ancestors named and unnamed.

15:18 / 02.10.01

Its not always that they are not talking. Often, you just need to learn how to listen

This reminds me of an old joke about a man trapped on a roof during a flood, sure that his prayers would be answered and God would save him. A boat came by, but he didn't get in. "God wil save me!" he said, and stayed put. The waters rose, and another boat came by. "No, I'm alright, thanks. God will save me!" The waters rose. he only had a few inches left of chiminey to cling to when a helicopter came by, dangeling a rope for him to get on. "No, no, I'll be alright. God will save me." So the waters rise more, and the man drowns. Up in heaven, he meets God and cries "Why didn't you save me?". God replies, "What do you want? I sent you 2 boats and a helicopter!"