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As above, so below.

 
 
bencher
20:00 / 11.09.01
Is this whole concept Grant Morrison's creation or is there more backgorund information to it that I can read up on?
 
 
firecracker
01:09 / 12.09.01
as above so below is a major rule of all magik. christians, wiccans, cabalist. if you meditate on it the answers will come to you. many groups say the same thing in differant ways. so first of all you should ask yourself, what does "as above, so below." mean to you? how is that a truth in your own life? then look to see how it manifest in your spiritual foundation. chistians for example... the old testament of the bible paralells the new testament. in caballa, the Tree of Life is said to be the Journey of Man. the Tree of Life also reflects the Tarot which is also called the path of destiny. i would also recommend refreshing your definition of Karma and Synchronicity
 
 
Saint Keggers
01:20 / 12.09.01
Nope, its definitly not Morrisons..
as above,so below
 
 
Tucker Tripp
05:55 / 12.09.01
Even before I knew its orgins/ significance/ etc I always thought it had such a nice ring to it:

"As Above, So Below"

I just like saying it.
 
 
Rev. Jesse
16:13 / 12.09.01
Well, for the magician, the saying has special power. The magician, using banishment rites, circles etc. establishes a microcosmic model of the universe. The magician then makes changes to this microcosmic model by performing magic. Once the magic is complete, the "as above, so below" trueism then replicates the changes made by the magician to his own model world across the macrocosmic universe.

You follow that?

Basically, because the magician changed himself within the circle, the changes are amplified across the magician's view of the world when he leaves the circle.

-Jesse
 
 
BAFM
00:32 / 16.09.01
Hmm...

I've always regarded the saying to be a knowing acknowledgement of the inherent symmetry of the universe - atoms, star systems, galaxies, etc (they all rotate about each other - and as above...)

It's like Nothing is true; everything is permitted - the more you consider it, the more you see how it applies...
 
 
Monkey Boy Z
04:30 / 16.09.01
There's this great story called Pierre Menard, Author of the QUIXOTE, by Borges. It tells not of the visible works of this writer, Menard, which are mostly trivial and silly, but his invisible scripts, where Menard actually authored some portions of Cervantes' "classic." He didn't copy them, mind you, he generated them originally from within himself. The idea was that most of the themes from Quixote are polarized through a more contemporary writer writing them. When Cervantes wrote of one aspect with almost no hidden intent, Menard words would seathe with hidden political intent. Even though the passages quoted are identical.

The idea is that of orginality, and what it is, or isn't. Certianly, Grant wasn't the first person to make the simple observation, but he was the first guy to link up things like fractal geometry, mystecism, quantum theory, weird homeless/drug ravings and whatnot, and put it all in a book called the invisibles.

Well, maybe he wasn't even the first person to do that, if even half of the things I've heard, seen, or felt, are true. He made the ideas his, for sure. But it would best be taken as a bird shit warning, and little else, as long as you're only willing to look so deep into its meaning... for you.

mbz

[ 16-09-2001: Message edited by: Monkey Boy Z ]
 
 
Suffocate
04:17 / 17.09.01
"As above, so below. As below, so above." is a maxim of Hermetic Philosophy. It is attributed to Hermes Trismegistus, the alleged founder of Hermetism.

I don't have the Kybalion handy at the moment (it's in my other pants) so I can't go into much more depth about it. Which is lucky, because the other replies have covered things fairly well
 
  
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