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Ria
22:52 / 10.09.01
anyone up for doing the exercise from Liber Null with the dice and belief systems? a group of volunteers each assuming the same random belief for twentyfour hours for starters. including our posts to here.

(which may or may not entail making up new fictionsuits for that purpose.)

for those who have not read it (and I reckon Carroll missed one at least... liberal Unitarian Universalist tolerance) it goes like this...

roll a six-sided dice and pick one of the following... in order polytheist, monotheist, atheist, low atheist (nihilist), chayote and low chayote (superstition).

I will roll a die tomorrow and announce it here to give people in Australia a headstart. Thursday the 13th from midnight to midnight your time (for the sake of simplicity) we can do this and compare results afterwards.

between the die rolling and carrying this out I suggest blanking our minds of anticipating the beliefs.

[ 13-09-2001: Message edited by: Kriztalyne ]
 
 
Ria
14:27 / 12.09.01
postponed because of recent impersonal events and lack of response on the board.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:42 / 12.09.01
quote:Originally posted by Kriztalyne:
lack of response on the board.


Eh?
 
 
ghadis
15:45 / 12.09.01
'postponed because of recent impersonal events and lack of response on the board. '

bloody nihilist
 
 
Ria
15:51 / 12.09.01
postponed because of the attacks I meant to say.
 
 
Tucker Tripp
12:34 / 13.09.01
I do. I mean we'd love to. I mean is it still happening. Let me know. I have a lot of dice. I'll stay posted (terrible pun)
 
 
Seth
13:06 / 13.09.01
I have a firm belief that I will make a fantastic nihilist. I will pray that the dice come up trumps for me.
 
 
Ria
15:12 / 13.09.01
how about Sunday (western hemisphere time)?

the night of the new moon.

actually I suppose anyone who rolls the dice first and calls it can announce it. if no one gets around to it by then than I will do it and post the results this Friday.

yes... midnight to midnight the night of the new moon.

[ 13-09-2001: Message edited by: Kriztalyne ]
 
 
Ria
18:19 / 14.09.01
I rolled four today... nihilism! tomorrow will post an extract from Liber Null which describes Carroll's version of this world view.
 
 
Tucker Tripp
05:53 / 15.09.01
Kriztalyne: Could you please post a list of what each roll =. Having not read the book I don't know. But I'd love to take part
 
 
Ria
14:04 / 15.09.01
synth - esis, the belief systems go in the order that I gave them so for example four equals late atheism otherwise known as nihilism... described as follows:

"Material casuality is everything. Science can probably explain away everything. There is nothing which is not caused by something else.

But this is no-explanation.

The world now seems accidental, arbitrary, and without meaning. We can know How everything but there is reason Why. The universe has become predictable but meaningless. That is the burden of intelligence, of being able to see through it all. There is obviously no spirit or personal survival after death. Hence there is
no reason to do anything, or for that matter, restrain from doing anything. Even this [sic] to deceive ourselves for their is no such thing as free will. One cannot help but get involved in doing something becase happens to be. All motivation is just an attept to put the body-brain in a lower energy, less tense state, even if by a roundabout route.

There are no absolutes in terms of importance, goodness, meaning or truth that do not arise from the accidental structure of the body brain [sic] and its surroundings.

We are just living out the chaotically complex forces which spawned us and which one day reduce us to nothingness again.

Everything we will ever do is just a result of how we are made and what happens to us. For all our pretense of free will, we are an accident running a fixed but unknown course."

cheerful philosophy, eh? [grin]
 
  
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