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Deadwings

03:36 / 01.04.05

March 30th, 2005 @ 9:30 PM my son was born. Relations with the mother are strained at best. Official naming occurs in about two hours. The reason I'm posting this here is thus; He doesn't seem to have much at all in the way of a soul. This bothers me for obvious reasons. So I'm thinking that the naming about to occur could be especially significant in this respect, and I was wondering what anyone that might be reading this right now would suggest in terms of title to secure a more powerful spiritual signature for my child. The mother has insisted on the first and last names, but the middle name is essentially mine to choose, provided it isn't too terribly esoteric (minor problem, I know) and that it contains three syllables if possible. First name is Miles. Last name, Finder. Miles _ Finder. Fill in the blank, friends. Help me out.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

08:10 / 01.04.05

"Doesn't have much of a--" Good grief, he's a couple of days old, man. Give the poor bloody kid a chance to get his bearings. I think you might need to do some drastic re-examining of your expectations if you're going to give this fatherhood thing much of a go.

Anyway, names. Mmm, something Latin and important-sounding, perhaps? Or something with magickal associations--give that wayward little soul a bit of a poke. Since you seem to feel the little fellah lacks character you could inflict a girly name upon him, make sure he toughens up. How about "Moonchild?"

Well, congratulations on your new arrival, very best wishes and so on.

Tryphena Absent

08:37 / 01.04.05

Alexander. It's a very old and tough name.

Nietzsch E. Coyote

09:00 / 01.04.05

Elijah

LykeX

09:15 / 01.04.05

Been doing a little brainstorming and this is what I came up with:

Jeremy
Timothy
César (sort of spanish style)

They are picked mostly from what I thought worked well with the other names. Of course, it all depends on whether you have the same taste in names.

LykeX

09:17 / 01.04.05

My bad, didn't notice the time of your post. Guess it's a bit too late now. If anyone else needs a baby named, feel free to use this for inspiration

ONLY NICE THINGS

09:27 / 01.04.05

"awayandyearsagoIhadadreamtosetupadatingsitecalledFriend"?

TBH, I'm more concerned about the perceived lack of soul than the middle name. How have you determined the absence of soul?

ghadis

09:38 / 01.04.05

Lack of an interesting birthmark perhaps.

Maybe 'Empty' may suit your souless sprog.

Gypsy Lantern

09:47 / 01.04.05

Maybe try him with a jerry curl or a fly little hat.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

09:58 / 01.04.05

Guys, No-Soul Miles is obviously a changeling. The thing to do is to be really mean to him while no-one's watching, then the fairies will give the real baby back.

illmatic

09:58 / 01.04.05

If you're concerned with lack of soul, you could always tattoo him. I've found that helps. I've done it to both my cats. You have to keep them shaved, of course, but that's part of the fun, chasing them round the flat armed with my girlfriend's Ladyshave!

This won't be a problem with your son, I should hope! Go for something a bit gnarly y'know, perhaps an eyeball with flames coming out of it, perhaps go old school, an anchor, a naked babe and some dice, perhaps? Problem solved.

Spaniel

11:15 / 01.04.05

Dead, perhaps you explain what you mean by soul.

Alex's Grandma

11:31 / 01.04.05

Wolf.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

12:04 / 01.04.05

Dead, perhaps you explain what you mean by soul.

Yes, do--I'm vastly curious. What exactly were you expecting? I mean... it's a baby. Perfectly splendid in their own way, babies, but not usually overendowed in the personality dept. Unless one is looking very, very closely, they're just sort of tubes for the first few months: food in one end, kak out the other, amid lots of screaming and barfing. Did you expect to gaze into his eyes and behold a terrible knowlege that seemed to come from a place beyond our ken, or some sort of dweomer?

Aertho

12:18 / 01.04.05

Zoskia

Seems ethnic, but really just fun.

Sekhmet

12:41 / 01.04.05

Oooh, a changeling.

I think you're supposed to boil water in an eggshell.

Tamayyurt

12:55 / 01.04.05

Hermes... and Miles Hermes has a nice ring to it.

Tamayyurt

13:00 / 01.04.05

Also, a friend of mine named their weak, premie kid Kal-El (first name) and he strengthened up quick.

Regrettable Juvenilia

13:17 / 01.04.05

Call him McStupidFuck.

It means 'Son Of Stupid Fuck'.

Because McStupidestFuckWhoEverPostedHereAndThatsAnAchievement is too long.

jorjun

13:18 / 01.04.05

Was the correct answer Davis?

Sounds too cool.

w1rebaby

13:22 / 01.04.05

No soul? Call him David.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

13:42 / 01.04.05

I see that Deadwings hasn't posted back yet, which means I can cling to my desperate forlorn sliver of hope that this is an April Fool's gag a while longer.

Ethan Hawke

14:01 / 01.04.05

Deadwings, obviously what happend is YOU DIDN'T EAT THE PLACENTA. that's the ensoulment ritual! get a CLUE, and get that placenta back now!

Scrambled Password Bogus Email

14:14 / 01.04.05

I suggest "TogoandIstillcan't"

Miles TogoandIstillcan't Finder.

FinderWolf

15:39 / 01.04.05

LOL David Papi.

>> Also, a friend of mine named their weak, premie kid Kal-El (first name) and he strengthened up quick.

Seriously??! Wow.

Jon Bogdanove, former penciller of SUPERMAN: MAN OF STEEL, named his son Kal-El. I can't decide whether I think that's cool or just horrible. I think I lean towards horrible, since the kid is bound to be tortured and teased all his life, both as a child and as an adult.

Now, just plain "Kal," that might work better....

but yeah, let's hope this is an April Fool's joke.

grant

16:23 / 01.04.05

second name: Simon
third name: either Y Todos Santos or Und Alle Heiligen.

And All The Saints.

02:22 / 02.04.05

Karras.

Deadwings

03:35 / 02.04.05

First I want to say thanks for the replies; name was finalized as Miles Johnathan Finder, so we'll see how it works out. Referencing the lack of soul feeling, I know it sounds kind of harsh, but I've seen and touched newborns before, and this was decidedly different. There just wasn't any impression that he was really there. Like holding a squirming eight pound bag of air. I'm not the only one that got that impression, too. A good friend of mine came with to provide moral support and left with the same conclusion. I'll be seeing him again in a couple days, so I'm really hoping something has taken hold. And that it's not a bad thing. Again, thanks everyone.

Katherine

03:54 / 02.04.05

Congrats on your child.

But to be honest your kid has just been though a unknown experience ie being born. AFAIK some of traditions hold that a child's spirit/soul isn't anchored into their body until the naming ceremony has been performed...or for x amount of days following birth then they get named.

Vadrice

07:06 / 02.04.05

He didn't have a soul, so you picked John.

Alright...

okay...

uh...

How's YOUR soul doing? Mine seems kind of airy to me generally, but I'm a habitual liear in recovery and an alchoholic and I've long sence lost most sense of myself.

Besides, air is cool.
Oxygen bars in vegas. A bit pricy for something you can get in a slightly bastardized form every time you open your mouth, but really gives you a good bit of respect and love for air.
especailly pulling a 1000 percent increase from a ten hour stint at the 1 dollar blackjack tables, sucking down vodka and schmoozing the tarty vegas girls.

man... if I was goinna have a kid, I would want it to have no soul.
And those are probably the circumstances it would be born under.
I'd name it negative ten-thousand-dollar vodka.

Oh. and congrats. I was just at a wedding, so I'm in a thinking kids are cool mood.
wee!

Regrettable Juvenilia

10:03 / 02.04.05

I'll be seeing him again in a couple days

Please don't bother, he's better off without you.

God I fear for this kid.

Have you thought about seeking psychiatric help for your obvious problems?

ONLY NICE THINGS

10:34 / 02.04.05

Well, deadwing (wasn't that a Transformer, by the way) has been through a very difficult emotional experience himself - he has had unto this world a son delivered. Very scary stuff.

However - Deadwing, have you considered that maybe, just maybe, the bit about "I don't get on at all well with the mother" and "I don't think the child has a soul" might be in any way _connected_? That is, does the child need to be worked on, or is it that your perspective is skewed, like even the most yummy cakes can sometimes seem unpleasant if they are cooked by somebody we dislike?

LykeX

13:27 / 02.04.05

Oh nice. Compare his kid to a cake, why don't you.
But seriously, I agree that the boy isn't the only one who's been through a somewhat traumatic experience. The dear father may not be completely reliable at the moment.
Take some time to relax and get back to normal. Besides, medical science have come a long way in the field of soul reattachment since the exorcist.

Alex's Grandma

15:41 / 02.04.05

A good friend of mine came with to provide moral support and left with the same conclusion

'The first rule about Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club.'

Deadwings

16:09 / 02.04.05

It was the lead-up that made it so strange. From the moment I first found out it was going to happen I had this great swell of paternal love/protective urge/sympathy. I don't consider my child to be an unfortunate accident; the whole unconditional love thing is in full effect, just to clarify. And regarding the naming having significance, that's why I decided to ask here.
...Might also be worth noting that the entire time I was with and held him, he never opened his eyes for me. He was awake and moving, but he wouldn't let me see his eyes. He opened them for everyone else, though. Also disconcerting.

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