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Trouble with trolls? Just how for the old Barbelith Defence Robot

 
 
All Acting Regiment
15:36 / 26.03.05
I've been trying to create some kind of sigil/loaded image based around my desire to stop dickheads trying to get all up in our shit. This is what I came up with: that scary but well-minded denizen of cyberspace, the Barbelith Defence Robot:



Basically, it's a rebuttal- a reversal, if you will- taking nasty bullshit agrro stuff off the trolls and turning it back on them.

(Done in 3dstudio 3, which means I'm now about eight(?) versions behind the current industry standard.)
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
17:44 / 26.03.05
Nice 3-d chopping there, but it looks a bit more like a Barbelith aggression robot than one designed for defence. Or perhaps that's the intent...
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
13:39 / 27.03.05
I've reread my comment, and I do seem to have ended up sounding overly critical. What I meant to say was that the image is primarily aggressive - when it turned up on my screen I was rather taken aback by its martial content. I'd be very interested to hear more about the intent behind the sigil: at the moment, the combination of the spiked legs, the gunsight and the gun make it look as if it's primarily designed to "search and destroy" : to me it resembles a sort of guard-dog entity. The wording of the original post is also interesting when taken in context with the image: it's clearly a troll countermeasure designed to return "bullshit aggro", but the words "defence" and "reflect" have also been used. It could be that the alarming nature of the entity is intended to reflect this negativity in appearance as well as function - hence the (in my mind) rather disturbing presence of the handgun, and the unemotive characterisation of the whole as a "robot". If this is the case, then the image fits its purpose very well indeed. However, I'd otherwise be a little uncomfortable about being defended by something bearing the symbol of a handgun: a weapon used only against other human beings, and carrying myriad negative connotations. Bearing in mind that the word "defence" is part of the job description, it might be more appropriate for a less soley aggressive weapon to be employed: perhaps a sword and shield, which would have associations of chivalry and knightly defense of the weak*? Sorry if I appear overly critical: I'm merely interested in the idea, and it'd be great if it was developed further. I'd really like to see more detail on the design process here, as I may be grasping at entirely the wrong end of the stick here.

*and also patriarchal oppression and feudalism. Arsebiscuits.
 
 
HCE
15:49 / 28.03.05
A plant with hugglephyll that synthesizes smileys from trollmatter would be a great machines that transforms malign content. Can you design that?
 
 
HCE
15:51 / 28.03.05
You know, there could be snark-rain pouring down on it, too, and off-topic worms aerating its soil.
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
18:29 / 28.03.05
A plant with hugglephyll that synthesizes smileys from trollmatter would be a great machines that transforms malign content. Can you design that?

Not sure I quite get you there. The point I was trying to make was not "that nasty wobot isn't fwuffy enough for me!", rather "I'm pretty sure that some people might not feel comfortable about being defended by, you know, a fucking great handgun with legs". The reasoning behind this was that I really can't think of any positive paradigms relating to that particular weapon. Furthermore, I think I actually stated that I very much liked the design and execution of the image, and that I wanted more information on the intent before making any further critical comments. Perhaps that's a failing of mine, but I think you might be missing the point here.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
07:54 / 29.03.05
Aksherley, Withiel, I think you may be missing the point of Nightclub Dwight's suggestion. Huggles are perhaps the most fearsome weapon in the secret armoury of Barbelith. It's an in-joke, essentially. There's probably something on the Wiki about it.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:06 / 29.03.05
You know that edit posts box on the right... it lets you edit your posts so that you can fix your own tags.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
12:27 / 29.03.05
Sorry I haven't come with my explanation earlier...but you all seem to have worked it out in your own way!

Yeah- Guard Dog is the overriding image I was trying to put across. Yes, it does look abit hunter-killer-ish, but I figured you need to be fast and agressive to hunt down Trolls as soon as they appear at the gate.

The spikes on the leg are a classic space monster/robot/alien/demon trope- cheesy and stereotyped, and seeing as this guard dog is hewn from bullshit it makes sense to have stereotyped features that would be scary to Trolls.

I know Barbelith ain't much of a guns place, in fact the trolls are more likely to be millitary-ish sorta. So yeah- it's a reflection of the Troll's negative energy.

I like the idea of a tree/organic plant thing that feeds off the the Trolls though, and shall set too it. I'm thinking sort of sexy sucking roots going into Knodge's head and sucking...slurp...
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
12:47 / 29.03.05
Legba: I really, really like the sigil thing now you've stated that it's a reflection of the aforesaid "nasty aggro bullshit". In fact, having read your explanation, it seems perfectly suited to its task.

Nina: I was aware of the "Edit Post" button, but didn't want to bother the moderators with petty requests for tag-closing edits. I've sent the request for the second post now, seeing as it's probably acceptable if you recommend it.

Haus: Ah. I was under the impression that nightclub dwight was taking the piss out of my former reservations about the design. In which case the "missing the point" comment was referring to his interpretation (as inferred by me) of his post.

I also really like the idea of troll-sapping conceptual foliage - but what would the entity be "used" for? All that power has to go somewhere... Perhaps it could sap the energy and use it to grow, creating a protective canopy between the 'Lith and nasty troll-people?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
13:31 / 29.03.05
Sorry to rot- we're all volunteers and there are quite a lot of us so don't worry about editing to close tags. I'm one of those horrible people who corrects my own grammar afterwards.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
19:19 / 29.03.05
I thought part of this "Troll-Eating Plant" construct could be long, tentacle-like roots that have these mouths on the end of them:



And I'm thinking of maybe some kind of needle that comes out of the mouth to insert pretty halucionogens into the target while the mouth bites on and sucks up the energy.

But so far, I've only done the mouths.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
20:32 / 29.03.05


There we go.

I'm thinking a name for it might be N'dlm'th, if we ever get it to servitor status.
 
 
Olulabelle
20:53 / 29.03.05
Those mouths are very Francis Bacon.
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
08:54 / 30.03.05
Francis Bacon meets HR Giger...there's a crossover fanfic in there somewhere... I really, really like that second image- it's simultaneously subdued and "natural" in its colouring and clearly dangerous to its chosen targets. Where does all the sapped troll-juice go, though? Or does it just feed the entity further? Either way, excellent work.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
15:42 / 30.03.05
Where does all the sapped troll-juice go, though? Or does it just feed the entity further?





It would love to prick your finger/to help the good times linger.
 
 
Olulabelle
15:18 / 02.04.05
That's a very Mapplethorpe flower.

Francis Bacon, crossed with HR Giger, crossed with Robert Mapplethorpe. What a complicated train of imagery!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:31 / 04.04.05
...and how very Barbelith.

Nice work.
 
  
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