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Bad Seeds B-Sides & Rarities

 
 
Loomis
07:48 / 22.03.05
So, what do you think? Worth getting? Essential release? Money spinner? Painful reminder of the good times before Nocturama? Here's the track listing:

Disc One
1. Deanna (Acoustic Version)
2. The Mercy Seat (Acoustic Version)
3. City Of Refuge (Acoustic Version)
4. The Moon Is In The Gutter - B-side of the In The Ghetto single
5. The Six Strings That Drew Blood - the B-side of Tupelo
6. Rye Whisky - first available as a flexidisc with Reflex magazine
7. Running Scared - B-Side of The Singer
8. Black Betty - B-side of The Singer 12 Inch single
9. Scum - Flexidisc sold with a poster at Bad Seeds concerts
10. The Girl At The Bottom Of My Glass - B-side of Deanna 12" single
11. The Train Song - B-side of The Ship Song 7" single
12. Cocks 'N' Asses - B-side of The Weeping Song 7" single
13. Blue Bird - B-side of Straight To You 12" single
14. Helpless - first issued on the Neil Young tribute LP, The Bridge
15. God's Hotel - KCRW radio session released on Rare On Air Volume 1
16. (I'll Love You) Till The End Of The World - B-side of Loverman 7”
17. Cassiel's Song -soundtrack of Wim Wenders' Faraway, So Close!
18. Tower Of Song - from I'm Your Fan, a Leonard Cohen tribute LP
19. What Can I Give You? - Believed to have been a French promo only

Disc Two
1. What A Wonderful World – With Shane Macgowan. Single Release
2. Rainy Night In Soho - B-Side Of What A Wonderful World
3. Lucy (Version #2) – B-Side Of What A Wonderful World
4. Jack The Ripper – Acoustic B-Side Of The 7" Of Straight To You, 1992
5. Sail Away - B-Side Of Do You Love Me?, 1994
6. There's No Night Out At The Jail - Previously Unreleased Cover
7. That's What Jazz Is To Me -B-Side Of The Red Right Hand Ltd Ed Single
8. The Willow Garden -B-Side Of Where The Wild Roses Grow Single
9. The Ballad Of Robert Moore And Betty Coltrane (As Above)
10. King Kong Kitchee Kitchee Ki-Mi-O - The B-Side Of The Henry Lee
11. Knoxville Girl - Featured On The Henry Lee CD Single
12. Where The Wild Roses Grow -Unreleased Duet With Blixa Bargeld
13. O'Malley's Bar Pt.1
14. O'Malley's Bar Pt.2
15. O'Malley's Bar Pt. 3 Mark Radcliffe Radio One Session, 1996
16. - Time Jesum Transeuntum Et Non Riverentum - From The TV Soundtrack CD Songs In The Key Of X
17. O'Malley's Bar Reprise - Mark Radcliffe Radio One Session
18. Red Right Hand (Scream 3 Version) - Previously Unreleased

Disc Three
1. Little Empty Boat - B-Side Of Into My Arms Single
2. Right Now I'm A-Roaming - B-Side Of Into My Arms Single
3. Come Into My Sleep - B-Side Of The (Are You) The One… Single
4. Black Hair (Band Version) - B-Side Of The (Are You) The One… Single
5. Babe, I've Got You Bad - B-Side Of The (Are You) The One… Single
6. Sheep May Safely Graze - Previously Unreleased Outtake
7. Opium Tea - Previously Unreleased Outtake
8. Grief Came Riding - Extra Track From The LP No More Shall We Part
9. Bless His Ever Loving Heart – (As Above)
10. Good Good Day - B-Side Of As I Sat Sadly By Her Side Single
11. Little Janey's Gone - B-Side Of As I Sat Sadly By Her Side Single
12. I Feel So Good - From The Wim Wenders Film The Soul Of A Man
13. Shoot Me Down - B-Side Of Bring It On Single
14. Swing Low - B-Side Of Bring It On Single
15. Little Ghost Song - B-Side Of He Wants You Single
16. Everything Must Converge - B-Side Of He Wants You Single
17. Nocturama - B-Side Of The 7" Inch Single Rock Of Gibraltar
18. She's Leaving You - B Side Of Nature Boy
19. Under This Moon - B Side Of Breathless Single.


Seems a pretty good deal for £13.99.
 
 
Loomis
07:49 / 22.03.05
Shit. Somehow I thought I was in the music forum. Can some helpful mods please move it for me? Pretty please?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
16:00 / 22.03.05
Painful reminder of the good times before Nocturama ?

You didn't like the new one(s) then ? I've been in two minds about Cave since Let Love In to be honest, and didn't even bother listening to Nocturama, but the new stuff's great.

I might get this comp, but if I do, it'll be more for the first disc than the others. The cover of Tower Of Song is supposed to be excellent though, so that in itself might swing it.
 
 
haus of fraser
16:21 / 22.03.05
I'm with Alex- whats wrong with the new stuff?

'Nocturama' kind of Blended with 'No More Shall We Part' although both were great - but Abatoir Blues/ lyre of Orpheous is bloody amazing- certainly not a duff turn in my mind?

I didn't realise that people weren't really digging the new stuff? ho hum each to their own I spose...

oh yeah the compilation looks cool not something I'll dash out for (probably cos a triple album will be about 30 squid) but if i don't buy it I may add it to a christmas list later in the year...
 
 
Loomis
17:23 / 22.03.05
I was thinking that the duet with Blixa on Where the Wild Roses Grow would be worth the price of admission, and £13.99 really sweetens the deal so it doesn't feel like I'm being milked.

As for his latest stuff, I hated Nocturama. Hated it. A couple of good songs (I'm on Fire was a ripper), but the rest was so flat. And the new double CD is okay, I don't dislike it and there are a few good songs, but I don't know if there is a single track that really shakes me. It just seems a bit flat and churned out. Maybe he needs to work more with the band. Some of the songs sound like they've been constructed by writing lots of long-winded lyrics then forcing them into regular song structures. The groove seems absent. I dunno.

It's not like I'm an old stuff vs new stuff person. I loved Boatman's Call and No More Shall We Part. It doesn't need to be all smack-fuelled mayhem. But the songwriting since then just seems a little flat to me is all. Maybe it's just a personal opinion thing.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
19:49 / 22.03.05
It doesn't need to be all smack-fuelled mayhem

No... No I don't suppose so, no - I should probably start a seperate thread about that, though.

In the meantime, while I take your point L, that there's arguably nothing as individually stand-out great as say The Ship Song or The Mercy Seat on the new stuff, I still think it works better as a mood piece than anything he's done in ages. It's a bit, well okay, it is horribly studenty to say this, but it does repay repeated listens, quite possibly with the lyric sheet handy, and ideally late at night with cigs, whisky, and on your own.

Increasingly, I suspect, that's going to be a flaw with this type of record, that you can't just listen to cherry-picked tracks on the I-Pod on the way to or from work ( not that I'm trying to put you in that sort of category for a second, L, ) that you have to sit down with it for a couple of weeks on and off before you really have an idea of what the band was getting at, and who's got the time ?

I mean ( and wandering wildly off-topic here, ) I hardly ever do anything expect go to the pub and watch telly, after hours, but still, I wonder if I'll have time for the whole of Bitches Brew, or Trout Mask Replica, ever again. Admittedly, I can't stand Trout Mask Replica, but... I have said enough
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
10:18 / 23.03.05
"it does repay repeated listens, quite possibly with the lyric sheet handy, and ideally late at night with cigs, whisky, and on your own.". This is very true, although AB/TLOO was the first Cave album I bought, and it did also manage to blow me away on the first listening as well. Perhaps I'm just easily impressed. Comparing it to "Let Love In", which I bought after the more recent albums, was rather interesting as well - the sheer violence of delivery in songs like "Jangling Jack" seems to be missing from Abbatoir Blues - perhaps it's just that Cave's voice has mellowed of late. However, by the looks of it, I'll be buying the 3-CD collection as soon as I have the cash, partly on principle, and partly because I must. hear. Cave's version of "Tower of Song".

Furthermore: Babe I'm On Fire 15minute video
 
 
Jack Vincennes
10:26 / 23.03.05
The cover of Tower Of Song is supposed to be excellent though, so that in itself might swing it.

I imagine I'm going to be all over this comp like a nasty rash, if only for the above -whilst I'm aware this is a whole other topic, I like the idea of any song from I'm Your Man less the Casio keyboards. Also heard that King Kong Kitchee Kitchee Ki-Mi-O is excellent, and I'm sure there's going to be at least a CDs-worth of things I'll like...

I'm liking the new stuff as well, but then I'm not that well versed in anything before The Boatman's Call (outside the Best Of, I am sorry). Still, think the lyrics are strong if only because it's now slightly less easy to make the "and I saw a CROW / and her hair was BLACK" comments about his songwriting -although I might be missing lots of that by mostly listening to the albums on the way to work.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:51 / 23.03.05
I'm certainly getting this (though I've probably got a great deal of the stuff already).

Personally, I quite liked Nocturama- it does have the only song Cave's ever released that I actually think is SHIT- "Rock of Gibraltar", obviously- but it's got some cool stuff on it- "Bring It On", "Still In Love With You"... and Abattoir Blues/Lyre is the best thing he's done in... well, in YEARS.

Where does the "Let Love In"-hating come from? 'sone of my favourites.
 
 
Loomis
07:20 / 24.03.05
Let love In is genyoos. Nary a bum note on that one.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
11:16 / 24.03.05
FYI, Cave worked with the band for the first time in years in actually writing for the latest album - previously, he'd bring in a practically finished song and the band, geniuses all, would work around his arrangement.

As far as his version of Tower Of Song is concerned, apparently they recorded an 80 minute jam through the entire song in a medley of loads of different styles, and then somehow edited it down to around 4'30' or something - I've only got a 30 minute edit of the full-length jam, and it's... joyous. Cohen said it was his favourite of all the tracks on the tribute album because Cave and the band had really caught the spirit of the song.
 
 
admiral sausage
19:10 / 24.03.05
The Ballad Of Robert Moore And Betty Coltrane is one hell of a song, I'm not sure if he wrote it but, it would fit nicely on to Murder Ballads. O'Malley's Bar ( Mark Radcliffe Radio One Session) I had on a compilation tape i got on a magazine. (Mark and Lard, radio 1, on at night .. those were the days)

I don’t usually buy singles, (apart from where the wild roses grow and red right hand) so I'm really looking forward to this, I cant wait to hear What a wonderful world With Shane McGowan.

Favourite album, Hmmm, Murder Balads.
 
 
Jack Vincennes
22:27 / 25.03.05
I cant wait to hear What a wonderful world With Shane McGowan.

It's best with the video, this one. Shane and Nick look like they're going out with each other. There is a sparkly silver curtain in the background. It's generally superb and I'm sure I've talked about it on here before...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:37 / 25.03.05
They not only look like they're going out with one another, it's a miracle they both manage to stay upright, they're so hammered. It's lovely. I used to have an interview with the pair of them which was filmed during the shooting of the video... that was even funnier.
 
 
admiral sausage
09:42 / 26.03.05
I nearly forgot that Shane McGowan's on Murder Balads, singing along with Kylie, PJ Harvey etc on Death is Not The End. His unmistakable voice can be heard singing

"when youre standing on the crossroads that you cannot comprehend, just remember death is not the end."
 
 
Seth
09:55 / 26.03.05
This is a definite essential purchase. I've been really disappointed with the diminishing returns since The Boatman's Call, it'll be good to get some more competent-period Cave rather than suffer his newer meandering nature-boy lyricism.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
13:55 / 26.03.05
Where does the Let Love In hating come from ?

Well not from me certainly - with regards to doubts about Nick Cave's material, I meant everything after that really - Personally, along with From Her To Eternity, Your Funeral... Mutiny ! and The Firstborn Is Dead, Let Love In is in the top five somewhere.

If I gave the impression otherwise, you can now think of me as feeling very sorry in The Thirsty Dog...
 
 
Baz Auckland
16:44 / 26.03.05
I spent a few days last year downloading every Nick Cave track that I had never heard of that I could find, and ended up with most of these... but it sitll looks great.

"The Willow Garden", "The Ballad Of Robert Moore And Betty Coltrane", and "King Kong Kitchee Kitchee Ki-Mi-O" are all tracks that should have been on Murder Ballads instead of O'Malley's Bar, and are worth getting the CD for...

(and I LIKE Rock of Gibraltar, thank you very much)
 
 
admiral sausage
08:56 / 27.03.05
"You can now think of me as feeling very sorry in The Thirsty Dog"

Christ, that just reminded me, when I was on holiday in Prague a few years ago we were drinking in a bar called The Thirsty Dog, (the walls were covered in mad wonky drawings of drunk dogs) and behind the bar was a framed self portrait by Nick Cave done on a napkin, titled "drunk in the thirsty dog" (I think that’s what it said ?)
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
06:04 / 31.03.05
That's a pretty damn fine collection, actually. After a quick (well, four hours or so) listen I've possibly been left a bit Caved out for the next day or so, but that was great. I think I already had most of it, but hadn't heard some in a very long time. "Tower Of Song" is the standout track, but there's some other really mental stuff on here.

Incidentally, anyone interested in Nick Cave rarities should check out Current 93's beautiful album "All The Pretty Little Horses", where he appears on two tracks (unfortunately I don't have the track listing handy). One is a spoken piece, with Mr Cave reciting a (I think) Patrapassionist text over chanting monks, and the other, which closes the album, is a different version of the title track, a nice acoustic folky number. (I hate to say it, but with the demise of World Serpent, downloading may be your best option for finding this album now).
Oh, the sleeve also has a picture of him as a young boy in it.
 
 
Loomis
07:47 / 31.03.05
Mine just arrived this morning before I left for work so I only had time for one song. Hearing Blixa sing Kylie's part on Where the Wild Roses Grow is a wonderful way to start the day.
 
 
Seth
15:31 / 31.03.05
Check out his duet with Johnny Cash on the Unearthed boxed set. Soulseek it if you don't have £50 spare.
 
  
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