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Favourite scene from a film

 
 
Benny the Ball
10:11 / 20.03.05
There was a programme on BBC2 that I remember from when I was a kid, where people in the film industry would talk about their favourite scene from film - about the composition and mood and acting all coming together for them. It showed John Wayne in shadow at the doorway from the Searchers during it's title sequence. SO firstly, what was the programme called?

And secondly, I put it to you, Barbelith, to do the same.

I'll get the ball rolling.

John Carpenter's The Thing (1982)

Remaking Howard Hawks' B-horror, The Thing From Another World, though staying more faithful to the John Campbell short story on which both are based (Who Goes There?) Carpenter's apocolyptic, bleak film manages to end on the most stiring downer in cinematic history.

Much has been made of the very special effects the fact that the film flopped due to people wanting the sweeter more positive alien experience with ET, but for me the most perfect moment in this film is a relatively quiet moment, coming after one of the films many 'shocking' moments in which the nature of the beast that the men of the isolated Antarctic US outpost has been revealed to them more fully.

MacReady (Kurt Russel) has surmised that the survival instinct at a cellular level of the titular Thing, means that every part of it will fight to live, that a piece of it will 'crawl away from a hot neddle, say'. A test is devised by MacCready - a character that is already suspected by his fellow outpostees as being suspicious at a time when any character could be a perfect immitation, as Childes (Kieth David) says 'So, how do we know who's human? If I was an imitation, a perfect imitation, how would you know it was really me?' - blood samples will be collected, a piece of copper wire heated up and the wire placed into the sample.

The scene opens with MacCready, still suffering from having been left out in the cold to die after clues have pointed to his not being human, warming his hands against the hiss of the igniter flame of a flame thrower he now wears - TNT about his person, his eyes tired and distrusting - and sound plays an important part through out the scene.

The atmosphere has lowered to an almost intimate level, and we are treated to the sounds of a scapel blade slicing into individual thumbs to collect the blood samples, which drip and pour into dishes. The first test takes place, with the hot wire scraping and screetching into the blood, and we, along with the characters on screen, exhale and feel relief.

What Carpenter does perfectly is to make the scene play slowly, we get to feel the relief of the individual as they pass the test, we get to feel the building doubt of characters, uncertain of their peers very nature, uncertain of their own nature, uncertain of the validity of the test. It makes the destraction of tension between MacCready and Garry (Donald Moffat) work perfectly when Carpenter pulls the carpet from under our feet as the test proves successful on a character that we have not been paying attention to, the blood screams as the wire presses into it, and the scene is suddenly all about noise and movement as the men struggle to survive once more.

It is probably the sheer silence of the moment, sandwiched as it is by two moments of visceral horror, that makes this a perfectly tense moment, and a part of the film that embraces the feelings of isolation and mis-trust between it's characters, as every character behaves as you would expect them to, you really begin to realise what the Thing is capable of, and leads to MacCready's realisation that perhaps survival isn't an option, that the Thing has to be stopped, what ever the sacrifice.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
13:54 / 21.03.05
Yeah, but then...and this pissed me off right from the get go, cos otherwise the film is a really good slice of sci-fi horror - but then, after all that, having dug the bastard thing out of the ice in the first place, and knowing full well that extreme cold won't kill it, MacReady readily shares his bottle of whiskey with the mysteriously reappeared Childes, who it is not clear whether he is or is not a Thing. And sharing a bottle will make him a Thing too, if Childes is a thing.

That's a bit crap, no?
 
 
Benny the Ball
10:10 / 22.03.05
I always read it that MacCready was so tired and resigned to dying, and if the Thing was still alive he just thought, ah shit, all that for nothing. Plus he had left the tape recordings as a record, so maybe he hoped that either a) the thing was dead, b) the tape recordings would be found first c) Childes was okay. Of course there is always the posibility that he was already infected and a perfect copy, and was ensuring a second body by sharing the drink, and getting ready to sleep again.

The computer game, although not great, has a fantastic 'trailer' on it, treating the game like a sequal to the film.
 
 
Jub
10:41 / 22.03.05
I'm sure I'll think of a thousand more, but I love the scene in the Usual Suspects when they are all sitting in the car before the gig on the boat.

McManus says "the news says it's raining in New York".

I really like the script generally, and for me that line - the way it was delivered as well as the context in which it was said - makes the scene work really well. The audience can tell they are each locked in their own little world but concentrating on the same goal.
 
 
A beautiful tunnel of ghosts
11:59 / 22.03.05
My reading of Carpenter's The Thing has always been that Macready is the second person infected in the film, following Bennings' infection by the dog.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
12:21 / 23.03.05
Then why did the blood test not reveal him as such?
 
 
Benny the Ball
16:52 / 23.03.05
He came up with the test - maybe it's a collective and he set up with windows to respond to save the over-all organism?
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
17:10 / 23.03.05
Sure its logical, but somewhat demanding of the audience to have to write all of this invisible plot flesh in order to make sense of the ending.

If MacReady was the Thing, why go to all the trouble of blowing himself up so convincingly? A double bluff?
 
 
A beautiful tunnel of ghosts
22:39 / 23.03.05
*threadrot*

Neither the audience nor the characters see MacReady draw his own blood - he has a petri-dish already prepared with his name on it. For me, there are indications throughout the film that MacReady is infected - PM me if you want an *cough* idiosyncratic interpretation of the film.

IMO, MacReady destroys the Thing at the end of the film because he realises that there is a greater chance of infecting humans if his human form is retrieved and the alien form is dispensed with. MacReady learns through the film how the other humans perceive the alien and how much easier it is to infect others when you look like them.

The Thing is a demanding film for me - despite its conventional structure, it leaves a lot to the audience - who destroys the blood supply? Who infects Palmer? I'll agree with criticisms that the plot is often secondary to the special effects, but the opportunity for alternate readings is one that I've enjoyed more than any other film.

*/threadrot*
 
  
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