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I demand Spoilers!

22:37 / 16.03.05

BATMAN

Okay, simple really.

Set up a thread for people to ask questions, the asnwers to which will be spoilers.

Put book title at top (see above), a small gap (this way, if someone wants one thing spoiled but not another they can use their will power to avoid) and then question. Answers match the format.

I'll start.

Q:

So who is wearing the red hood in the book at the moment?

Thank you.

next?

13:00 / 17.03.05

We don't know yet. There is rampant speculation that it is Jason Todd, come back to life, which I think would be stupid. Jason Todd should be like Gwen Stacy and Bucky and Uncle Ben - DEAD, DEAD, DEAD, forever. Not like Hawkeye, Colossus and (cough) Jean Grey.

Haus of Mystery

14:12 / 17.03.05

I think a revenge-crazed zombified Jason Todd would be aces.

14:20 / 17.03.05

i can't believe they're going to bring him back but they're not even going to let us vote on it.

A beautiful tunnel of ghosts

14:37 / 17.03.05

FABLES

Q:

Who is the Adversary?

20:08 / 20.03.05

Merlin (?????)

Just a guess, of course, but it seems to me that the adversary must be male and have extenisve sorcery at his command, and Merlin is who comes to mind for me.

Geppetto (sp?) is of course another possibility, given the happenings and disclosures in the Wooden Solders arc, but he has never before had any of the magical powers associated with the Adversary, so I'm guessing he's either in league with or enslaved by the Adversary.

I've seen Peter Pan offered up quite a bit, but that doesn't seem possible, seeing as how he wasn't even created until long after the Adversary was supposed to have started his rise to power. If anything, from the only illustrations I've seen of the Adversary, he would be the mythical Pan, not the more recent Peter.

20:21 / 20.03.05

I too want to know who the adversary is. First guess would be Gepetto because of March of the Wooden Soldiers. But that seems to be too easy and obvious.

And I don't think that the creation of the Fables has any sort of timeframe. They mention (indirectly) Aslen of the Lion, Witch, and Wardrobe series, which I believe was created after the Adversary came and the Fables fled (sometime around mid 1700's I think). I am guessing that the Fables inhabit some sort of ideaspace.

06:41 / 21.03.05

I've heard someone talk large about the Advesary being commercialised corporate myths, ie. Disney. In a metacontext the notion that colonising existing myths (remember, Disney have done Snow White, R.R Hood and the rest) and Disneyfying them and in some way killing what makes them fables. The image of an evil, scarred, Eisner-esque Mickey ruling Fableland with an iron glove does have a nicely dark appeal.

11:43 / 21.03.05

So one day we might see Walt Disney's frozen head cryogenically frozen in a glass coffin?

15:41 / 22.03.05

I think a revenge-crazed zombified Jason Todd would be aces.
Jason Todd was the best Robin ever. He drank whiskey and cokes, threw rapists off of roofs, and met Batman while trying to steal the batmobile's hubcaps.

07:19 / 23.03.05

Any one know what happened at the end of NTH MAN # 16? Published late 80's, by Marvel. Written by Larry Hama and drawn by Ron Wagner. Set during World War 3, about a ninja CIA hitman out to kill his buddy, a Marvel Comics Fanboy psychic with Godlike powers. Teenage me loved it to bits but i have never been able to track down the last issue. Any body read it?

08:01 / 23.03.05

Ooh, Hitler's immortal brain in a jar that glows green with EVIL!

Chad, I think I love you.

08:03 / 23.03.05

I mean Disney's brain!

14:08 / 24.03.05

So, I almost bought that Young Avengers comic the other day, but then realized I was only considering it because I wanted to know who each of them are and how they're connected to their grown-counterparts. Would anyone care to illuminate?

14:34 / 24.03.05

Young Avengers is decent, old-school Marvel mainstream superhero fun. Not terrific, but not really bad either. That's my quick review.

Having said that,

Iron Lad is --- and this is one of the cooler ideas in the book -- Kang's younger self. He found out he's going to grow up to become Kang the Conqueror and he's a nice kid at this stage in his life so he wants to change his future so he doesn't become all eeeevil and conquering. And he knows Kang messes with the Avengers a lot so he wants to become an Avenger (or a Young Avenger).

Hulkling (yeah, it's a really dumb name) - We don't know this guy's info yet, other than he's likely gay (he flirts with the Thor analog character in the first issue).

I forget what the Thor guy is called - oh yeah, he's The Asgardian. Has a wooden stick that throws lightning blots, he flies. We don't know his origin yet either.

Patriot - Dresses in a young Bucky-meets-Capt. America sort of style. We don't know his info.

Basically, they're kids who got powers and idolized the Avengers. Now they're trying to be superheroes.

19:31 / 24.03.05

Thanks, Finder. Of course, now I can't shake the image of The Watcher announcing:

"The Avengers dare ask... WHAT IF Thor and Hulk were TEENAGE LOVERS?"

07:13 / 26.03.05

not gonna happen

no matter how aroused and frustrated the Hulking got.....he wouldn't be able to lift the Asgardians' weapon

10:53 / 26.03.05

ok, you want a spoiler, here's one.

Blue Beetle dies.
In whatever new DC comics mini that will change the world.
Sure gonna change HIS world.

19:38 / 30.03.05

Who shot Blue Beetle?

20:23 / 30.03.05

go to the Crisis Countdown thread, my child, and there ye shall find the answers you doth seek.

20:21 / 31.03.05

Re: Batman and the Red Hood

Apparently it really is Jason Todd come back to life somehow.

The Red Hood ends up in a room with the Joker and proceeds to beat the crap out of him with a crowbar, much as the Joker "killed" Jason Todd years back. Then he takes off his red hood and says something like 'see how YOU like it,' wearing the Dark Phoenix-colored red mask Clayface was sporting when he posed as a returned Jason back in Loeb & Lee's 'Hush' storyline in Batman.

05:08 / 01.04.05

see, that's lame. i probably like Hush more than most people on this board, so take whatever i say with a grain of salt if you need to, but i think one of the most effective aspects of the storyline was the build up surrounding the tease of Jason Todd's return as the title villain.

however, Hush did not turn out to be Jason Todd. which means that there's got to be a moratorium on villains being unmasked as Jason Todd returned from the grave for at least 5-10 years real time. it's too anticlimactic. lame.

05:16 / 01.04.05

Diz, you liked Hush?

Farkin 'ell.

Didn't the villain turn out to have the crappest motivation EVAR?

19:12 / 01.04.05

I agree with Diz that having a psych-out Jason Todd return sort of takes the bite out of having an ACTUAL Jason Todd return 1 year later.

rabideyemovement

03:21 / 06.04.05

I'm really enjoying the Red Hood storyline. I didn't like the idea at first, but watching Jason Todd beating Joker senseless with a crowbar, gave me alot of satifaction. He finally got his revenge. And not only that, in the end he'll be a more effective crimefighter than Batman... As for Hush, I thought that story sucked, but I like what they've done since then with him. Especially the hints that he is not Tommy Elliot after all. I'd like to see him revealed as Jean-Paul Valley or Hugo Strange.

04:30 / 06.04.05

DC needs to ditch the ultraviolence and bring back the batcave with the giant penny. Or just let Tim Vigil take over the batbooks and be done with it already.

rabideyemovement

07:29 / 06.04.05

I liked that graphic novel where Batman drew a pentagram on the penny, cut his wrist and used it as a giant magic circle to call forth and bind Deadman.

17:53 / 06.04.05

I didn't like the idea at first, but watching Jason Todd beating Joker senseless with a crowbar, gave me alot of satifaction.

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