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The Total Barbelith Tarot: The Heirophant

 
 
Rex City-zen
18:48 / 30.08.01
Well, I received my first scolding in regards to the imagined space these threads will take up.
I don't know, should it be one long thread? It seems it would be much harder to mantain...what are your thoughts people?

Also...the 3 rd card for our deck has been designed already THE EMPRESS by Synth was e-mailed to me last night.Thanks so much and I do like it alot...I will post it soon for all to see...
Need someone to design the emperor...

Today of course, our sixth card:

V- The Heirophant / Pope
Let it roll baby...
 
 
Rex City-zen
18:54 / 30.08.01
p.s.- Check out the new magician card by Kobol Strom.
The new standard in excellence, this card is beautiful.It brought a tear to my eye.
Under Magician thread...go see!
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
20:59 / 30.08.01
Me...polish..."nice skirt but your purse is on fire"...

stream of conciousness, i always liked the heirophant, seemed like a good card to draw strength from when i was 16 and depressed.
no real reason i was attached to it, not like the tower, that always meant the futility of every endeavorin my eyes

eng
 
 
Rex City-zen
19:36 / 31.08.01
Please people...don't stop posting on this topic!! Is it becoming too much?? If you all want to stop let me know...
 
 
6opow
18:39 / 01.09.01
The Hierophant
a.k.a. The Magus of the Eternal

Card Number: five
Rulership: Taurus
Hebrew Letter: Vau
Translation: Nail

This card is the path between Chokmah (wisdom) and Chesed (mercy). It can be seen as divine wisdom received, interpreted, and maintained. In this respect, the directed energies developed in the Supernal Triangle come to be regulated and formed into what we can think of as "tradition." In a way, we can see in the Hierophant both divine inspiration and guidance, but also, human limitation and greed.

The number five: consciousness; the hand, pentagram, humans; Mars; Geburah. Moons of Uranus. # of Chinese elements (earth, fire, water, wood, metal)--earth is the fifth element, yellow and central. The number of meditation. Sin, error, but also progress and knowledge. Without 'five' there is no human evolution or purpose. Courage. Achievement.

Taurus: The fixed earth sign of the zodiac. Venusian impulse, the Eros. In Egypt, Apis the Bull was an avatar of Osiris. Stubbornness, love of the Arts and hedonism. One of the tetramorphs, Taurus incorporates the lesson of velle, "to will."

Vau: Signifies the eye of the human and becomes the symbol of light; it also represents the ear and becomes the symbol of the sound of the air; the wind. In this respect, vau appears to be associated with waves, and wave-like phenomena. In its quality as a consonant, it is the emblem of water and represents the taste and the appetite. As a grammatical sign it is considered to be the image of mystery most profound and most incomprehensible--the symbol of the knot that unties, and of the point which separates being and non-being (perhaps the seam of the mobius strip--there is no seam!).

Numerically: Vau + Vau, which is 6 + 6 = 12 or 3. We will see twelve in the Hanged Man, and we have seen three in the Empress.

In readings:
Dignified: good counsel, advice, and teaching. A seeker after knowledge and wisdom. A preference for the orthodox and a need to conform--to be socially acceptable. Strict adherence to religion, sometimes. Marriage (sometimes).
Reversed: Slander, propaganda, and bad advice. Misrepresentation in the advertisement or sale of goods. Unconventionality. Distortion of truth.

Mythological Links: Bacchus. Christ in Olympus. Parsival as King-Priest. Apis. Hera, goddess of marriage. Hymen, god of marriage. Dionysius. All gods of redemption.

Metaphysical Musings: In many respects, the Hierophant is symbolic of the status-quo, and the maintainer of tradition. In him is the separation of good from evil, the sacred from the mundane, and the distinction that gets drawn between any other dichotomy (similar to how the Pythagorean table of opposites-in all its arbitrariness-comes to be accepted as the way things actually are; i.e., good = male = odd, as distinct from, bad = female = even). In his possession are the keys to Heaven and Hell, but he does not let on (or perhaps is taken in by his own dogma) that there is only one key to two doors; further, that both doors open into the same space.

A difficulty I have with this Pope is the orthodox-conformity that he represents is in opposition to free-spirited anarchy: after all, the idea behind the role of a hierophant stems from an established socio-religious ordering (which of course is a human construction). In him appears to be the death of spontaneity and the birth of redundancy. In addition, it is hard to accept this archetype as a blessing due to human foibles which tend to pervert tradition over time &/or maintain it at too high a cost to genuine human interests. However, the divine inspiration that drives the Pope is wondrous, and it is hard to deny this.

In some ways, he represents the need of humans to have consistent, comfortable, and predictable patterns--some sort of standard by which we can measure our experiences. It is this need for regularity that spins out fantastic yarns concerning our duties and obligations to divinities which are located in some sort of external reality. Some would call this last "bad religion" while others would call it an opportunity for forgiveness, salvation, and other such treats that come from the separation of the divine from the mundane--a distinction that obscures the star within every human being while at the same time giving us fuel by which we may shine brighter. The generator of, and solution to, paradox.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:06 / 02.09.01
I say keep doing the Tarot entries the way they are - each getting it's own thread, cause there's a lot to say about 'em! We can't really be taking up 'space' with these, since there is no such thing as real 'space' on the Net, is there? Much less on a message board that can infinitely add threads.........
 
 
SMS
18:12 / 02.09.01
Actually, HunterWolf, we can cause big problems for the board. Just before I started posting regularly on the board, it crashed completley. That wasn't long ago.
 
 
Kobol Strom
18:54 / 03.09.01
The Heirophant is a hard one to track down.Thats the problem with mercy,is it being true to yourself and free of ego that you give a few coins to the homeless,or do you give out of some sense of cognitive dissonance created by periods of active neglect.The heirophant gives to the poor,and it doesn't need to be any more complex.It is the giving nature,the willingness to share,and whether the motivations are selfish or not,the act itself is perhaps for a nanosecond,a selfless descision.The choices we make in life for charity,at what point do these resemble the aspect of The Heirophant?Possibly in a single lifetime,never.He is the last person you expect to find on a journey,he watches you at the top of the mountain.He is the best version of you that your heart can concieve.Which is why he is constantly under attack.
 
 
Ierne
15:45 / 04.09.01
Before one can be initiated in a chosen path (either orthodox or heterodox), instructions and training must be given, skills honed and awareness raised. This is the point in the process where the intellect comes into play.

[ 04-09-2001: Message edited by: Ierne ]
 
 
grant
15:20 / 05.09.01
Hierophant: There is but one way to advance along the path, and it goes right through me - you sucker!
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
13:29 / 03.10.01
quote:Originally posted by Ierne:
Before one can be initiated in a chosen path (either orthodox or heterodox), instructions and training must be given, skills honed and awareness raised. This is the point in the process where the intellect comes into play.

[ 04-09-2001: Message edited by: Ierne ]


And where foundations are layed.

"you have to know the rules before you can break them."
 
 
Kobol Strom
19:09 / 04.10.01
 
 
cusm
19:45 / 04.10.01
The High Priest, to the High Priestess. Where she hides her wisdom, he forces it upon you. Here is every teacher you never wanted. Authority figure of great status. Authority gained from status and respect, rather than taken by force or strength. Shining example of what we are all supposed to emulate in order to be Good People.
 
 
Rex City-zen
20:16 / 04.10.01
KOBOL STROM:
Impressive. Beautiful. Respect.

p.s. I love the other card too!! Amazing... you have skillz.

love REX
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
02:30 / 05.10.01
For a different, less oppressive patriarchal view on the Hierophant archetype (than traditional Tarot defs.), here's the Voodoo Tarot's version of the Hierophant - The Master of the Head

"The Master of the Head is the Self on an exalted Plain. The Master is the Loa that expresses and embodies the highest qualities of an individual. Here the meaning of 'master' is not that of an external force controlling an individual, as a term like 'schoolmaster' implies. The Master of the Head is the loa capable of integrating the various qualities of the mind and personality into a coherent, directed whole. This is a great card of initiation. To know and be aligned with the Master of one's Head is to function according to one's own unique place in the universe. One of the most powerful occult axioms is 'know yourself,' and to know the Master of your Head is to know yourself in a deep and abiding sense. The aspect of this card is that of a man drumming to bring on full contact with the Master of his Head. As he plays, a face forms on the drum. Mists swirl from the face on the drum's head and become a spirit that kisses the man's upturned forehead. Attributes of this card include a profound realization of self in an inclusive sense. The union of Love (Ayizan) and Will (Loco), in measure particular to the individual, produces the road upon which the Master of the Head walks.

True service is always to the Self."
 
 
the Fool
03:34 / 05.10.01
I want to second Rex on saying "What a beautiful card". Well done KS
 
 
Kobol Strom
06:56 / 05.10.01
These cards were cut and paste from photos I took around Rosslyn Chapel,near Rosyth in Scotland.Some of the trees around there are pretty old.Then you use critical paranoia to pick out the details.Then you wait for a suitable point to use them.I worked from actual photos from my albums,and did them specifically for these threads.Thanks for your encouragement guys,I appreciate it immensely.
KS
 
 
Rev. Jesse
11:45 / 05.10.01
John Paul II, dressed in leather bondage gear, waving a sword and a wand around. Give him a eye in the triangle hat like AC use to wear.
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
12:26 / 05.10.01
quote:Originally posted by kobol strom:
I worked from actual photos from my albums,and did them specifically for these threads.
KS


Way cool KS!
 
 
Kobol Strom
09:15 / 06.10.01
quote: In his possession are the keys to Heaven and Hell, but he does not let on (or perhaps is taken in by his own dogma) that there is only one key to two doors; further, that both doors open into the same space.
You have everything you need.The door to heaven and hell,its just a matter of perspective.He must suggest that both are joined,or otherwise he has no gifts.There is no capital in Capitalism.The keys are a lesson in attentiveness,we relate this to childhood versions of authority.Bill Gates,the doors are open:,the versions of Windows are closed.
 
  
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