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Gregg Araki, Larry Clark & James Toback

 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
22:52 / 09.03.05
I swear, to me they're the same person. Which is one reason why I always forget to tell a friend to download them from the web. I depend on you to tell me why they differ from each other, because these threads tell me very little.

Why are they interesting as moviemakers? And how have their movies influenced their time? And which movies of theirs should a green fella like me go for?
 
 
uncle retrospective
08:34 / 10.03.05
Well Larry Clark makes horrible, horrible films with lots of underage sex in them, Kids being a great example. But I would always advise watching Teenage Caveman, a cheap and nasty Cormanesque shocker. One of the funnest things I've seen in years.
I've only seen Nowhere by Araki which was very grim and unplesent for the sake of it. It did have a very shocking moment where they killed a dog but apart from that I though it was a rubbish film. Far too much jerking off for my taste.
 
 
uncle retrospective
08:56 / 10.03.05
Kids is on Channel 4 tonight if your in the UK or Ireland.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
09:44 / 10.03.05
Kids! Of course. It is a movie I know by reputation only, but Libby has colored my view effectively. She contrasted Kids with Clueless and preferred the latter, 'coz, as she says, the shallowness of youth was portrayed as an enviably thing instead of a grand artistic statement with worryingly dirty teen sex.

The teen sex is recurrent in most of his pictures, non?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
18:54 / 11.03.05
It is a bit, yeah. Depending on how you look at it, it could be a comment on how adolescents are increasingly presented as sexual objects in modern culture, or an attempt at an honest depiction of how 'young people' actually behave, especially when ingested of x amounts booze/drugs, or the arguably slightly suspect pecadillo of a (much) older man, or some sort of combination of the three, but to the extent that the imagery's all that 'erotic' it's always in a fairly queasy, if not outright disturbing way - he's never struck me as someone who's in the business of making films you're supposed to sit there watching with a box of tissues handy, at least.

And Clark does pretty clearly care about his characters - It's not so apparent in Kids perhaps, but for anyone who thinks otherwise ( and anyone who doesn't as well - it's a great film, ) I'd highly recommend Bully, which came out I think about two or three years ago, and is as close to a cinematic realisation of Dennis Cooper's work as is likely to see general release for a while yet anyway - It's as good a movie as My Loose Thread is a novel, IMVHO.
 
  
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