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Unintentional Paradigm Shift Has Fucked My Shit Up

 
 
Tamayyurt
21:10 / 06.03.05
Okay, back in the day I was quite the sigil slinger and I don’t want to brag but I was awesome at it. Reality seemed to tremble and reshape itself with every little symbol I shot off into the ether. Slowly, though, as I learned more about magick and mysticism my mindset began to change. I stopped seeing the universe as a fluid thing and started seeing it as a solid. And so, with that subtle yet profound alteration my magickal practice suffered. I started thinking that if my future (and past) already existed in this Cosmic Structure called Universe that my sigils, spells, and rituals didn’t really matter. It was either going to happen or not, hell, it’s happening now or it’s not, and nothing I do or don’t do can change it. The next detrimental thing that happened to my hoodoo was that whenever a bad situation arrived I shrugged and thought, “Oh well, everything happens for a reason.” And that was the killing blow. My magick halted and it became something I simply read about, a curiosity instead of an art.

Over the past year I’ve been rendered ineffective in magick. I’m stagnating and I want it back! This has all been reveled to me by the water elemental I contacted recently. See the thread Conjuring Entities for more info. So the point of this boring thread is to know if any of you have ever hit this kind of sand trap before and how you got out? I guess this could easily turn into the Freewill vs. Fate argument, but how do you reconcile your own Will with a HIGHER WILL (whether it’s your Higher Self or some sort of Powers That Be-type deal)To continue to function as a Magician?
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
21:31 / 06.03.05
sounds like a temporary setback.

I'm not going to delve into the free will vs fate debate, there's a lot to consider in that dichotomy...

in the meantime, regardless of how fixed the universe may seem to you, it's a matter of how you feel about it. The sygils, as far as my experience with them goes, are a language between you, your subconscious, and your higher power (when I write "you" I mean "one" - chalk it up to sloppy grammar, less so than sloppy spelling, but that's another tangent...).

I think the biggest tragedy that I see in the culture around me, (vancouver canada, if it matters), is the tendency to take the immaterial and render it material in order to understand it/discuss it/address it - this robs us of truth and mounts fact in its place. sygils are about truth, not fact. And it may just be that the world around you appears more solid, because, for the mostpart, that's the way lots and lots and lots of people see it, and we can't help but be influenced by it.

so, the solidification of your perception of the world is perhaps a settling - a resistance to the flow - maybe you've stopped your progression forward - maybe you need to channel more of that water spirit (sorry, missed the other post - not enough time to read all the supporting material).

my suggestions for kickstarting that old black magic (so to speak):

go out and dance yourself to sweaty exhaustion

spend four hours opening up the sludgy, forgotten corners of your lungs, and purging out the ectoplasmic/phlegmatic residue lurking within

practice spelling with letters

build a shrine/altar/sacred space to foster your relationship with magic again...

For years I learned to cook for spiritual/physical health (not anything formal mind you, just observing results of various combinations - I've since done much more research), and then, just lost interest.

years later, having spent some time with a professional chef, he inspired me to pick up the cleaver again - and with that, I'm rediscovering the skills I used to have, and adding a whole new dose of cauldron-work to my repetoire.

sometimes, a rest is necessary to let things sink in. Many of us take a lot longer to learn than we allow ourselves. I've noticed that after a few days off, my juggling skills have come together in unexpected ways when I pick up the balls again.

I guess the question for yourself is "why the sludge?"

I don't have any doubt you'll get it sorted. How could you not?

yours
pablo
 
 
Charlie's Horse
22:29 / 06.03.05
I stopped seeing the universe as a fluid thing and started seeing it as a solid.

This is one of those places where I find the good ol' 'don't use 'to be' or conjugations thereof' advice to work. The universe is fixed versus the universe is fluid... Well, from the perspective you'd have standing outside of space and time, the universe would appear fixed - every moment would appear at the same time, no apparent movement or change, just branching tree-limbs of humanity webbed around the world. Yadda. Yadda. Yadda. The thing is, we don't normally see reality as such for a very good reason - such a perspective, improperly used, can encourage the reaction you're having, the good ol' 'why bother if it's already going to happen?' So force yourself to pay attention to what you really see day-to-day - not some metaphysical abstraction you've glimpsed in literature, altered states, and epiphanies, but the 'normal' perspective of time passing, of our acts in this moment creating the future. Do some creative tasks - write, dance, cook, whatever. Immerse yourself in small tasks that have obvious effects on your immediate live, that emphasize the effect of your decision to do a thing in a particular way.

'Everything happens for a reason' - ok, but often we are that reason. We are the fuel that pumps and pushes the worlds around, that feeds and nourishes the spirits. Our words reverberate throughout the world. If you live in a city, you are constantly surrounded by the flora and fauna of our imagination enthroned in material form. Whether or not this comes first from some Higher Being or not, we still choose to follow that call or to ignore it and let the fruits of our mind rot on the branch.

How do you reconcile your own Will with a HIGHER WILL (whether it’s your Higher Self or some sort of Powers That Be-type deal)To continue to function as a Magician?

Good question. Your understanding of the world - things happening for a reason - indicates that we have something to learn from the world, from God's influence on our lives. Right? So do you think that only works one way? I mean, do you think some 'Higher Will' has nothing to learn or gain from out own efforts and desires? Are we not also teachers, and the Divine our student? A God who cannot learn from us is no God at all.

Besides, can your will contradict the divine if your will becomes manifest? Every successful act of magic is pleasing to God/reality, which is why it worked in the first place. Which means that your will and this 'Higher Will' happen to coincide a deal more than you'd think. Scary, huh?

Perhaps the best way to get around this wouldn't involve some kind of paradigm shift - just get out and do the damn work. Practice, stay active, do things that impact your life and the lives around you. For no reason, other than for the sake of doing this stuff and enjoying it (you are enjoying it, aren't you?). Make a list of things you can do a sigil for and start actually doing the work. The reasons for being passionate and driven will follow behind the most primary: life is infinitely more rewarding when you aren't apathetic.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:18 / 07.03.05
>> started thinking that if my future (and past) already existed in this Cosmic Structure called Universe that my sigils, spells, and rituals didn’t really matter.

I feel that when we take this approach, we just leave ourselves to be carried along by the current, whereas when you engage in magick and self-directed will/goals/whatever, you are not just being carried along with the eddies and currents but carving out your own path. It's like the difference between swimming passionately forward in the sea or just being carried along on the current.

I often do an affirmation that says "Everything in my life is working out wonderfully, in accordance with my highest good, my True Will, and God's will for me, now and always." Because those latter three things are all really the same since we are part of God and are creating our own lives, aren't they? I repeat that many, many times per day.

And when you want to get out of a mindset, do Grant Morrison's old bit of writing with the hand you don't normally write with for long stretches (lefties write with right and vice-versa).

I'm sure you'll be back in the magickal swing of things in no time, Imp.
 
 
gale
16:16 / 07.03.05
Impulsivelad,

You have gotten a lot of great advice. I will add to it by suggesting that you stop watching tv, listening to the news, or reading newspapers. It might not help your magical practice, but I promise you will be happier.

Also, continue your exploraton of elementals.

Finally, instead of reconciling your beliefs with a universe that's going to go a certain way regardless of what you do, remember that the universe is always open to suggestion. And on top of that, it loves you.

Good luck, Imp!
 
 
Quantum
17:15 / 07.03.05
I'm feling the same way dude.

It's my Thirtieth birthday soon (see the Gathering) and I'm intending to replicate Alan Moore's ritual to declare himself a Magician to the universe. The problem is that I find myself in a similar quandary- as a magician I should be defying the Gods and reshaping the universe to my will, but I feel it's a good idea to keep the Gods sweet, surely? If I change the world it could break someone else's destiny and I would never know. Fret, worry, introspection...

I think it's a form of performance anxiety, hyperreal stage fright if you will. I intend to bluff it as confidently as possible, I'm pretty sure it's a test of Will. There must be stages of development in a magical paradigm, similar to stages of learning a skill. There are occasionally plateaus or psychological barriers to overcome in order to progress. Take it as an indication that you're on the right path and persevere, that's what I'm believing.

My philosophical justification is that my desires and beliefs are subject to the whims of fate as much as anything else, the Gods (or Universe or whatever) have a good idea what I'm going to do, and have it all in hand.

I intend to throw myself at the world at the world of magic full tilt starting next week, and I reckon it's the Will of the Gods that I should do so. It's nice to know that other magicians are experiencing the same doubts I am (that's you, Impulsivelad scribe of Thoth- great thread) and that's why I love this forum.
 
 
Joetheneophyte
18:03 / 07.03.05
what has been said before and in particular what Quantum said all rang very intuitive bells with me

as a temporary insanity.....and try it to see if it works, why not imagine that the hyper sorcerors of the GOP are out to get you, for your planned intention to ruin Dubya's chances of getting re-elected?

I am sure it is not too much of a stretch to think that these buggers have egregores and servitors aplenty , roaming the ether and astral planes, just ready to jump on any mage who dares attack the office of Republican incumbent


Do I believe this is true? Not a chance......but if you work as if it is true and start getting motivated and driven in your work, then maybe this will bypass any temporary worries and direct your work via an alternative route

Good luck my friend.......even if you doubt yourself (for the moment), you have given me enough advice and info to make me know at a very deep level, that you know your shit/ mojo
 
 
Tamayyurt
18:41 / 07.03.05
Thanks for all the great advice, folks. I performed ritual today to energize myself and become more fluid. That coupled with the working I’m doing with the water elemental is starting to help. I agree that I have to start living in the here and now, somewhere along the line I started thinking of the mundane world as a trap and I trapped myself.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:16 / 07.03.05
>> If I change the world it could break someone else's destiny and I would never know.

You're just going to change YOUR world first, so don't worry about messing with other people's destinies. The universe will take care of the rest.
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
19:56 / 07.03.05
wrt Charlie's Horse's response:

English without the verb "to be" (generally called English-Prime or e-prime for the e-literate), provides a wonderful means of taking equivocation out of language, reintroduce the subject, and clarify our message, with fewer intrinsic assumptions.

excellent suggestion.

sounds like you're on your way out of the self-fashioned menagerie. Great news.

cheers
pablo
 
 
Papess
21:15 / 07.03.05
A bit off-topic...

I think you may find this interesting since you are working with a water elemental.

Dr.Masaru Emoto's Website

This doctor has been doing research with water molecules, exposing them to various stimuli, then freezing them and taking a snapshot with a very high powered microscope/camera. The different expressions are quite facsinating. His work is being featured in the movie, What the BLEEP! do we know?

Maybe it will be of use to you Impulsivelad, or at least of interest.

Back to the topic....
 
 
Tamayyurt
21:51 / 07.03.05
Dude, that was actually very helpful to my water working. Thanks.
 
 
Z. deScathach
08:35 / 08.03.05
I feel like I'm coming in late on this, but here goes. Sounds like you are already getting out of this. The same thing happened to me, and it greatly stunted my magick for a number of years. I had moved the locus of power outside of myself, and began to see the universe as my ruler.

I changed my perspective on things to not see a higher will,(a perspective that sees that will as superior), but a greater will, a "wider will", a mass of consciousness that includes the vibration of everything within it. Ultimately, we swim in the universe like fish, and the water within us is the same substance as the water of the ocean in which we swim. I changed my viewpoint from one in which my life was created, to one in which I'm it's creator.

Still, it's true that absolute control is a fantasy, but influence is certainly not, so why not push the bounds and see where that influence will go? It's one of the dangers of mysticism, a turning over of one's personal power to the greater reality. It doesn't have to be an either/or. The universe has it's power. We have our power. All we have to do is not give it away.

I love that quote from Hakim Bey, "The Universe wants to play." You know that you can tweak things, you just forgot. No big deal. There is no battle of wills. It's a battle of perspective, and perspective is an internal affair. The fact that we can change perspective, and cause our magick to disappear or gain strength shows just how fluid the universe is. Your changing your perspective and causing your magick to wane was an act of magick.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
11:38 / 08.03.05
I tend to think that your "True Will", in a Thelemic sense, is not the same as your personal day-to-day wants and desires, the sort of things that we might do sigil magic for. This tends to be borne out by the ephemeral nature of these smaller drives and urges, for instance, if you keep a journal it's a quite common observation that the stuff you were actively desiring and doing magic for six months ago often seems irrelevant or sometimes even wildly opposed to what you want now. Time passes, new things happen, new influences come to bear, situations recreate themselves, etc...

There's been loads of times that I've put loads of energy into results magic for something specific, and whilst it hasnt happened, the larger situation has shifted to such an extent that a much better scenario has developed compared what I thought I wanted at the time. Magic rarely seems to work exactly as you imagine that it might. I think there's a strong element of "be careful what you wish for" present in this sort of phenomena sometimes as well.

However, your "True Will", which is to say your essential nature, is a constant. The Star. Z'etoile. The thing that moves you and leads you to act in the way that you act and do the things that you do. The core of your being. I see this as fairly synonymous with the "Universal Will" as it's being talked about in this thread.

When you're doing your "True Will" and acting from your nature, you are accomplishing the "Universal Will", as you are a part of it. The will of a tree is to grow in a certain way, the will of Picasso was to paint in a certain way, the will of a magician might be to develop and perform a certain type of magic. There is no opposition between the Will of the Universe and your own Will, because one is just an expression of the other. Microcosms and Macrocosms. As above, so below.

There can certainly be conflict between this Will and your fleeting wants and desires, but you can't always rely on yourself to know which of these are still going to sound like a good idea six months down the line. I've found lately that much of the work I might do for myself is about trying to bring influences into my life, or negotiate whatever hurdles or obstacles there may be, so I can best live and act according to my nature.

I think the course of Universal Will/True Will faces plenty of interferance and impediments as it works itself out, and whilst it may ultimately be unassuagable, it can still be obstructed, its growth can be impaired, etc... by the circumstances of its general growing conditions. A tree will grow differently in a forest to how it might grow inside a cramped warehouse. So results magic becomes a case of removing little blockages and problems that impair the Universal Will, not trying to actively oppose it, because you are "it", and its nature is your nature.
 
 
Papess
11:56 / 08.03.05
[ot]How did you ever become so sane Gypsy Lantern?[/ot]

Impulsivelad: Glad to be of service! I had a feeling...
 
 
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14:44 / 08.03.05
[ot]How did you ever become so sane Gypsy Lantern?[/ot]

By becoming a good magician by the looks of it!

Sorry to read that Impulsivelad, I hope it's just a phase too and here's hoping everything starts running smoothly again asap.
 
 
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14:55 / 08.03.05
Well, imp, you may recall awhile ago I had you energize a sigil for me to get me a boyfriend and you assured me that you had done sigils for other people and that they had never failed. And, well, that one did. It appears I tarnished your perfect record (either that or it's the longest working sigil of all time). Hopefully that hasn't contributed to your general malaise towards sigils and that sort of thing. All joking aside, I recall when I first began magic my main interests were sigils, extreme gnosis, and things of that sort, but as noted above tastes change over time and now I'm interested in other areas. Phil Hine wrote how many magicians go through an initial period of excitement (when magic is a new, shiny thing) before they hit a "hump" of sorts and go through a long dry spell, before getting over that hump and getting back into it again. I myself went through such a period recently: After months of dryness I decided to turn my back on magic and focus on other things. But after awhile of that the craving came back and now I'm getting into it again. Sometimes you're too close to the forest to see the trees or something like that.

My quandry was when I was reading a book about the philosopher Heidegger and it said he was influenced by this guy who wrote about the "Transcedental id", but that the guy (and Heidegger himself) couldn't find a way to explain the fact that the world around you is always there, and all scientific/occult/religious modes of thought are just things that are adopted, mental poses, yet the material world always remains. I had trouble dealing with this myself. If anything, it caused me to view my typical gnostic loathing of the flesh in adifferent light, but then again, Heidegger didn't seem to fancy the notion that the world itself could also be an illusion. I decided that the material world and the abstract ontic world are equally important, and without the two feeding energy off each other there would be no existence.
 
 
Tamayyurt
15:08 / 08.03.05
Z. deScathach-I feel like I'm coming in late on this, but here goes. Sounds like you are already getting out of this.

Don't worry about it... it took about two years for my headspace to change and it's probably going to be awhile before it changes back. Please keep the good advise and suggestions coming as I'm finding them vastly useful.
 
 
Tamayyurt
15:16 / 08.03.05
Sypha (or whatever damned thing you're calling yourself these days)- I still don't know what happened with that one and it's funny you should mention it cause I did a sigil for the same reason (different person) exactly 3 months ago and last weekend my friend snagged a "possible" boyfriend. My magick may be off but it isn't gone. It's more like the Scarlet Witch, I never know what's going to work.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
15:33 / 08.03.05
[ot]How did you ever become so sane Gypsy Lantern?[/ot]

It's my daily regime of eating ants off the pavement, talking to invisible beings that nobody else can see, wearing hats filled with mysterious things, and collecting pockets full of dust, bits of plastic, wild flowers and speaking thistles.
 
 
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19:15 / 08.03.05
Okay, I know from past comments that you collect objects, sew things into clothes and talk to invisible spirits... but eating ants off a pavement? I'm just curious about the context of that last one (I'm not saying it's crazy, mind, though someone else might think so.) I mean, Ozzy snorted ants up his nose once so...
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
08:28 / 09.03.05
Yes.... thank you for pointing out that there's only one thing on that throwaway list of "insane person's activities" that I don't actually do... makes me feel much better that... I'm off to the park now to look under stones.
 
 
Quantum
22:50 / 10.03.05
I luv you gypsy yu r so groovee (I hope you come to my birfday dood)

Thank you for your sound advice, fine metaphors indeed and exactly what *I* needed to hear, I don't know about anyone else. I intend to act in accordance with my True Will/Universe/Gods/Destiny and become a magician
 
 
Seth
04:39 / 11.03.05
I haven't done much of the exciting type magic stuff for around a year now. To be honest, I have no inclination to right now.

The reason being is that I'm slap bang in the midst of change on a huge number of levels, and there are much higher priorities. I'm picking up my first van tomorrow, and I have to learn to drive it well (passed my test a couple of weeks ago). I'm at the end of my first three weeks in my new job, and have realised that I need to throw myself into learning how to do it much more than I have up to now, because I'll be otherwise unprepared. My girlfriend is moving back to Southampton with her son, and I wanto give her all the help and support I can. And the band's going to be recording over the next month, we'll probably need another four songs before we have enough for the album.

I'm learning so much at the moment, and having so much new life experience, that doing too much would cause me to overbalance.

On another note, there are times when I've felt less than stellar about my daily practise, and haven't had so much else going on. Under those circumstances there's still a lot of energy there, it's just going into the feeling of being blocked. I think it's very healthy to have times like this, because your understanding is tested and deepened and you tend to throw out a lot of the extraneous stuff. It feels like you're in the wilderness, which has always been seen as a proving ground. Maybe paying attention to what you're learning and relaxing into it for a while might be the best thing you can do for a while. It's worked for me in the past.
 
  
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