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Liber Kaos / physics

 
 
Boy in a Suitcase
23:48 / 13.02.05
Does anybody happen to know, apart from the physics stuff in Liber Kaos, of any books or thinkers who have attempted a hard scientific theory of magic?
 
 
Salamander
14:43 / 14.02.05
I've read a few things, (but don't remember where they are on the web, sorry) of some scientists trying to create a G.U.T. by describing the universe as a hologram( Holographic Theory), which strikes me as being like hermetic philosophy, but no nothing of what your asking has been tried, no scientists care to as far as I know.
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
16:20 / 14.02.05
Not exactly hard science, however, Wade Davis has written a number of accounts of his expeditions into the indigenous cultures of the world, "Serpent and the Rainbow" being his most famous title.

I've also read "One River" and recommend it - Davis is an astounding writer.

His field is ethnobotany, and his scientific research into the interaction between communities (typically indigenous) and the plants around them. There is a great amount of overlap, as he describes the rituals, the social roles and spiritual ceremonies symbolized by the plants, their preparation and use, at the same time as he describes physiological effects from alkaloid consumption.

He elegantly finds a balance between the sacred and the scientific without descending into the "Hell of Endless Factualising."

As far as everything else, both magic and science are both systems that describe the universe, and seek to address it in a manner consistent with that description. It appears that Alchemy may be the last common ancestor of science and magic.

so, there it is. Good luck in your search.

ciao for niao
tenix
 
 
maledictus
16:32 / 14.02.05
Ross Heaven, some stuff in Vodou Shaman, more in his first work, Journey to you where I've first read about the already mentioned holographic universe-theory.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
07:45 / 15.02.05
Ross Heaven is hard science now?
 
 
trouser the trouserian
07:46 / 15.02.05
G.D. Wassermann wrote a book called "Shadow Matter" which attempted to reconcile Physics & Paranormal phenomena - it may be still available from Mandrake Press Haven't read it myself. Pete Carroll gave it a very disparaging review in Chaos International some years back, noting that Professor Brian D Josephson's description of the book as phenomenology was something of an insult, from a "hard" scientist.
 
 
LVX23
14:49 / 15.02.05
Talbot wrote The Holographic Universe, FWIW. Also check out Goswami's The Self-Aware Universe. Then there's Enochian Physics by Schueler. The Quantum Gods by Jeff Love. Capra's Web of Life. These vary from hard to soft and aren't all explicitly about magick, though they define what is essentially a magickal universe. There are a couple of books called Synchronicity, one by Alan Combs and another by F. David Peat. Along those lines I'd also recommend Quantum Reality by Nick Herbert.
 
 
Chiropteran
17:04 / 15.02.05
Stalking the Wild Pendulum by Itzhak Bentov is another one that is not explicitly about magic, but it does flex the science on the subject of consciousness, Fotamecus-like time-bending, and the creation of genii loci or gods. Or, as they say, "Magic enough."

I can't say how "hard" the science is, since I haven't read it for many many years (it blew my mind in middle school!), but Bentov certainly intends it to be "seriously scientific."

~L
 
 
nidu713
19:12 / 18.02.05
Secrets of Aether: Heavy with the science, light with the magic. This may have something to do with trying to gaintain credibility in the scientific community. As usual, application within the paradigm of magic can be intuited.
 
 
Nalyd Khezr Bey
17:28 / 21.02.05
You can take a look at Nick Herbert's Home Page. Nick Herbert is a physicist and, though he's not specifically talking about Magick, I find his ideas about Quantum Tantra very close it. Herbert, as Dr. Jabir 'abd al-Khaliq, is a member of the Moorish Orthodox Church along with Hakim Bey and that may explain some of his leanings.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
20:41 / 21.02.05
I say this as a total dilettante, but Voudoun ( sic, poss )
Quantum Leap by Gerard Crossley is well worth a look.

Crossley is a published poet, doctor ( MD, no less, in Haiti ) who's put his shoulder to the wheel to write a book about the V tradition as it relates to contemporary quantum physics theory - the central idea is that the 'dark matter' universe which apparently has to exist if modern consensual reality does, is populated by old gods.

There's quite a bit about the Philadelphia Experiment, and lots more about Haitian politics, and it's all very well written, so for anyone innarested, I would highly recommend.

I possibly stand to be corrected by anyone who knows more about this than I do, but I did have the feeling that Crossley wasn't clowning around.
 
  
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