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Great Living Eccentrics

 
 
Madman in the ruins.
20:16 / 09.02.05
So this random train of thought was kicked into my head by the fact that I'm reading a book about Al Crowley and it set me thinking.

Love him or hate him (as a lot of the occoult community does), Al Crowley certanly knew how to make a impression on the Media of the early 20'C.
So who are the great living eccentrics, Characters that project a larger than life presona. I mean we've just had CelebBB, Bez, Mcririck, Jakkie Stallone, Nahhhhh. can you really put them in the same leage as Crowley? Or Bryon, Or even Wilde.

So i'm compiling a list, unfourtualltly its mainly Musicians as thatw here my itrests lie.
The rules are . They have to be living or very recetly deceased (in the last 10 years) and they have to be eccentric. Contreversial but not actively seeking contreversy by spouting inflamatory rhetoric in the pursuit of collum inches. And they shuold be multi talented-Not just famous for one thing:


Julian Cope From 80's pop icon to writer of big books about stone circles. No record deal? fine I'll do it myself. He's a one man megalithic industry who lectures at the british museum while still sticking two figners up to the establismnet.

Ozzy Family man who loves his kids or Devils Disciple. The MTV show lets you decide. Dinner in the White House with Dubya or Pissing on the Alamo. Lets face it with TV cameras following you for 3 years any sort of carefully built up public face would slip.

John Ottway Who???
He's a pop star with 2 hits to his name (about 20 year apart) In the meantime hes toured the Folk Scene , tried his hand at property development (and faiied) Made a fourtune and lost a fourtune. And kept on smiling all they way through. Even though at one point he was so broke that he resorted to sleeping on his fans sofas while he toured.
 
 
Brigade du jour
21:04 / 09.02.05
Nobody, in my humble opinion, can top Brian Blessed and Tom Baker.

And, in a different way, Prince.
 
 
w1rebaby
23:09 / 09.02.05
Who does the media hate who is famous?

This "rock star" thing is nonsense. These people aren't really hated or influential or anything. Nobody gives a shit about Julian Cope, just another fucking hippy. Ozzy is a cuddly ant-snorting sitcom star, and John Ottway, who indeed?

Fuck musicians. You want to look at people who are famous, influential and *really* portrayed as monsters, if you want to find Crowley-alikes. Abu Hamza, Dick Cheney....
 
 
diz
06:32 / 10.02.05
you may have heard of this guy called Michael Jackson. he's a little obscure, sure, but he makes Howard Hughes look like Billy Crystal.
 
 
Lilly Nowhere Late
05:13 / 11.02.05
What about Dr. whazhisface, the one who does all the plastinating of stolen corpses and gets folks to pay him for a look, not to mention convincing UK tv channels to commission him to teach the nation all about anatomy in the most gruesome but eye catching way? What is his name? Again, too early for my memory. Surely he deserves a mention here.
 
 
Sax
06:31 / 11.02.05
The Royal Family. Two hundred years' time, no-one will fucking believe it.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
07:14 / 11.02.05
There was an article in the NME on the subject of Prince Harry recently, which said he was totally punk rock.
 
 
jeed
07:40 / 11.02.05
Didn't they also say the Strokes were totally punk rock at some point?

Anyhows....Wilf Lunn



Legendary
 
 
modern maenad
08:38 / 11.02.05
I really want to be able to produce an exhaustive list of exciting rabblerousers for this thread but I think perhaps you're right John Odin - the folk busy trying to subvert the dominant paradigm just don't get the air play, and all the big names tend to play it safe - rummaging through my leaky brain I just keep getting flashes of Jarvis Cocker mooning Jackson at the Brits, the Dixie Chicks stirring anti-war controversy, Chris Martin writing maketradefair on his hand when on tv......all of which are impressive, but not exactly mindblowing.....
 
 
modern maenad
08:42 / 11.02.05
Thought of one - Bjork, she's definitely a fantastic eccentric and supremely talented to boot....
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:10 / 11.02.05
God I hate you.
 
 
Sax
09:32 / 11.02.05
The NME think anyone who dresses as a Nazi is totally punk rock.

Witness Keith Moon and Vyvian Stanshall.

Who looks remarkably like Wilf Lunn, now I come to think of it.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
09:33 / 11.02.05
'Hiatus' ? 'Permanent' ? Your call.

Whichever way though, it's very good to see you back here, and how the hell are you, and where the devil have you been ?
 
 
modern maenad
09:39 / 11.02.05
so which bit do you hate especially???
 
 
Sax
09:47 / 11.02.05
Chris Martin writing maketradefair on his hand when on tv

Oh, help.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
10:35 / 11.02.05
Jim Kerr from Simple Minds ( It was ironic, that name, ) also married an actress du jour, did a lot for charity, recorded a bunch of succesful albums best listened to in a traffic jam on the M25, and now I dare say he just sits there and sighs, wondering why the salmon he's bred personally all seem to be so listless
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:47 / 11.02.05
Shhh, don't tell anyone, Alex. I'm not staying, I'm just having a moment of weakness. Like the salmon/Kerr post though, hold tight.

modern: I hate the bit where people are so easily taken in by tired old hairy surface signifiers of 'rebellion' that they think Ozzy is some kind of crazy subversive rebel who doesn't play by the rules, maaaaaaan.
 
 
Chiropteran
12:14 / 11.02.05
Well, does an eccentric have to actively "subvert the dominant paradigm," or can they just be a bit off? Different criteria will lead to different lists (and I think Ozzy qualifies for the latter, if not the former).

~L
 
 
Tryphena Absent
12:34 / 11.02.05
I can't wait to wind Fly up about this!
 
 
Mistoffelees
19:38 / 11.02.05
>What about Dr. whazhisface, the one who does all the plastinating of stolen corpses

That is Gunther von Hagens:

http://www.bodyworlds.com/
 
 
Lilly Nowhere Late
20:20 / 11.02.05
Yes that's the one! He strikes me as pretty eccentric. (i hope he never strikes me actually) I've got at least two friends who want to donate their bodies to him. Did I say this already? Now it's too late you see...
 
 
Lurid Archive
20:26 / 11.02.05
Andrew Eldritch wears green shirts now and that is totally MAD!!! Totally.

But, thinking again, does it really count as eccentric if its genuinely edgy?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:12 / 11.02.05
There's the guy who runs the penis museum in Iceland... I've met him, and the words "eccentric professor" were never far from my mind...
 
 
Madman in the ruins.
12:49 / 12.02.05
See it's tricky. I think you get a few celebs who once seeing their celeberity status start to wain play the eccentric card. Or adopt eccenticity as part of their celeb presona, a la John Mcricck and Brigite Neilson on CBB.

Having a social consience dosen't really constitue eccentricity- Chris Martin.

Bjork, Yes , she really dosen't give a shit about upsetting the media but also is far too eccentic to hold down a job at MaccyD's
Maybe one of the critera for being eccentric is the unabilty and unwillingness to hold down a 9-5 day job.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:58 / 12.02.05
Isn't that one fo the criteria of being independently wealthy, which means you can be eccentric?
 
 
Jack Fear
13:07 / 12.02.05
Yes. Only rich folk get to be "eccentric": working-class weirdos are just fuck-ups.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
13:08 / 12.02.05
I think once people start to think of themselves as eccentric the game is well and truly up... it seems probable that eccentricity and modern celebrity are often mutually exclusive, really, with the exception of some old stagers like Zandra Rhodes.

John McCririck might count if he wasn't so self-conscious about it all.
 
 
pony
14:53 / 12.02.05
has ODB really not been mentioned yet?
 
 
The Falcon
18:21 / 12.02.05
Note thread title.

Then get back to us.

Wish Flybs had written '...Kenny' at the end there.
 
 
Ganesh
22:13 / 12.02.05
Gunther von Hagens isn't so much "eccentric" as "necrophile".
 
 
w1rebaby
07:59 / 13.02.05
Hey, necrophilia is edgy.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
10:09 / 13.02.05
I think that's spelled "squidgy".
 
  
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