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clairvoyance and third eye

 
 
pacha perplexa
16:03 / 19.08.01
Someone told me I have a third eye with undeveloped potential. Now I'm curious, because I never thought seriously about having a third eye on my own forehead, y'know?

It was only a concept, but sice I've been trying to make a better use of my intuition and of my ability to foresee certain situations (I can't choose when or how I'm going to see things, so I'd like to have some control over it), I think I wanna know more about this other "eye".

Do you know any good sites and/or books about the third eye and clairvoyance?
 
 
FinderWolf
11:54 / 20.08.01
Funny you should mention the third eye...so funny (in the sense of coincidental), in fact, that i just HAD to post this reply.

Sporadically, over the past 6 or 7 months (during which I've been working to get out of a pretty significant period of depression), and with increasing frequency, I have felt what I can only describe as pulsating, throbbing energy in my forehead, where I know the third eye to be. In this period I also received lots of acupuncture and Reiki treatments, and I wonder if these have anything to do with what appears to be a very slow and gradual opening (or at least some kind of manifestation) of energy in my third eye.

It doesn't feel bad, it's not pain (like a throbbing headache, for example). I know it's not something bad, i.e some negative condition or something. In fact, it feels almost exactly like the pulsating waves of energy I often felt during acupuncture treatments. (I would often describe that feeling as "kind of like a cramp, but not, and with a pulsating feeling")

So does anyone know what this can mean? This is, I think, the first time in my life I've felt this awareness of my third eye. I think it's interesting that it's happening as a point where I'm going through a lot of emotional and spiritual growth and maturiing.

Any good sites that have info. on the third eye? Anyone have any personal experience with the third eye??
 
 
FinderWolf
12:01 / 20.08.01
Oh, and although I've only had very rare experiences of being psychic in the sense of predicting an event throughout my life, just a few weeks ago I had the thought pop into my head, seemingly out of nowhere, almost like it wasn't my thought but it was transmitted to me from some unknown, mysterious source, that I was about to get the results of a sigil I had done months ago (and, of course, which I had pretty much forgotten about entirely at that point - ain't that always the way??).

And that not only would I get the results of that sigil very soon, but it would not be the way I expected it - instead of hearing from this person via a phone call or letter or email, I suddenly felt like I knew - with a strong sense of certainty - that my sigil's objective would come true, but not the way I expected. Instead of hearing from this person directly, I felt a sudden certainty that I would instead read something about them in print, in just 3 or 4 days. And exactly 3 days later, I got that message in print, with a very important message about this person from my past, a message which helped really set things right in my mind about the role that person played in my life.

It was very interesting -- not only having my first success with a sigil, but having a premonition that "this is how it's going to come true, specifically, and I'm going to get this result in the next few days."

Anyone else ever have this experience - of having a premonition about how and when your goal (through magick) will come true?

And what could this have to do with the third eye?
 
 
Ierne
12:24 / 20.08.01
pacha mama

The "Third Eye" is actually the pineal gland.

Here's another link, with a diagram of sorts. Not exactly about clairvoyance, but good info.

HunterWolf: Cheers for the successful sigil! Hope the above links help you out too.
 
 
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17:32 / 20.08.01
Ahh, I too have been searching recently to understand the same sort of sensation that goes on in the middle of my forehead at times. Hunterwolf, this is the first time I've heard of somebody who experiences this pineal gland stimulation (or whatever it is biologically), and describes it almost exactly as I would.

I've felt it off and on for about two years now, and lately it is there for longer and longer periods of time. It has been doing something new in the last couple months too -- every so often it will sort of pop at moments when a thought coincides with whatever's going on in the external reality.

Are there still others with this sensation?
Or are Hunterwolf and I both crazy?
 
 
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17:48 / 20.08.01
Oh yeah, are there any theories about the 3rd eye being used as a means for certain individuals to identify each other?

I get this idea from my fundamentalist christian upbringing -- ie-- the mark of the beast in Revelation.
 
 
Ierne
18:13 / 20.08.01
I will often have that very sensation during ritual, usually when I am raising energy through various points of the body. When the energy runs through the pineal gland, it will throb and pulsate as mentioned by HunterWolf. Depending on what the ritual entails, I will also see images when my eyes are closed.

As for "identifying others", I'm not so sure the pineal gland handles that, although birds and animals use it for direction and navigation purposes.

[ 20-08-2001: Message edited by: Ierne ]
 
 
pacha perplexa
22:29 / 20.08.01
Thanks, dear Ierne!! I read it all, and am ready to try some new stuff with my head.

HunterWolf: funny. I predict things mostly the same way you describe. It happens a lot, I think of someone and this person calls seconds later, or shows up in my house.

The oddest experience was one night, about one and a half year ago, when I went to sleep and, after closing my eyes, had this "flash" in which a close friend was in a hospital bed, apparently sleeping, with tubes in his nose and mouth.
The next day I hear he's in the hospital, intensive care unit, in a serious coma. He never came back, and died two months later.

Since then, I haven't been able to doubt any of my strange "out of nowere" impressions.

Another thing: have you people done that "I, E, A, O, U" banishing, each sound corresponding to the activation of a chakra? When I'm in the "I", which corresponds to the crown chakra, I feel this crazy vibration inside my head, and... wow...

So, tiger's mouth, I guess we're all nuts.
 
 
Warewullf
07:01 / 21.08.01
quote:Originally posted by tiger's mouth:
Are there still others with this sensation?
Or are Hunterwolf and I both crazy?


Nope, ye ain't crazy! I get this sensation a lot too. I can even start it off by focusing on it. (It started buzzing the moment I started to read this topic!)
I've always had this feeling but it's only since I started studying Magick that I found out what it was.

Have you ever placed a finger about half an inch away from your Third Eye when you have this feeling? It's cool, if you close your eyes you can actually FEEL your finger there! (You can even try it with a pen or something else!)
 
 
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13:49 / 21.08.01
quote: Have you ever placed a finger about half an inch away from your Third Eye when you have this feeling? It's cool, if you close your eyes you can actually FEEL your finger there! (You can even try it with a pen or something else!)

Yes, the first time I noticed that phenomenon I was at work in some busy department store. It was such a strange and pleasant sensation that I had to stand there for more than a few moments, moving my pencil around between my closed eyes. Nuts indeed, pacha mama, at least to all the "sane" normals, giggling as they pushed their shopping carts by.

So there are others who can feel their third eye, but does anyone know or have first hand experience as to what sort of functions it can have when it is able to open WIDE?

And, assuming that it does actually open, even in some metaphorical way, does it open inward, outward, or both?
 
 
Kobol Strom
19:32 / 21.08.01
The Third Eye.This is my personal theory about whats happening when you can apparently see stuff whilst your eyes are closed.There are layers to this experience,some of it is deeply strange,and none of it is in the Psychology books. Theres stuff you can do with your mind that should be just fucking impossible(in the context of the 3rd eye and otherwise),but you shouldn't subscribe to anyones consensus reality anyway, including mine.

The Pseudo-Psychology:
When you can see with your 'minds' eye,there is (if I can remember from about 5 years ago) a place where your mind can store
visual data,and I'd argue,can store invented data ,too (as a 2d static picture).You can preview this slide-show from your unconscious using meditation techniques,but the best time is ,of course,just as you're waking up.I've seen different images in this state,sometimes the images are not from direct experience.Its called The Visual-Spatial Sketchpad.

Kobol's Consensus Reality:
However,there is also a state where you can see ,not whats stored in the 'VSketchPad',but actual details that are in your immediate vicinity.In this state you can see your room,if it is light enough obviously,and its in this state where other stuff is percieved that comes under the heading of 'astral',because its remains elusive to actual description wthout coming over like the madman.But if you can wake from sleep in a relaxed way,you might notice that you can see your room whilst your physical eyes are closed.This is not sleep narcolepsy,SN is a state where your eyes are open,your body is paralysed and you are hallucinating.
This 'other' state, where you supposedly are using the'Ajna Chakra', is an alternative state of consciousness in its own right,its something completely different,and I don't think it should be confused with sleep paralysis.
So,with the rationalist experiential fluff out the way...

You can see entities who happen to be nearby,and have conversations with them with your mind,if they feel like talking of course.You can recieve premonitions.You can use this state as a jump off point to go astral,apparently.I'm testing this out just now,but I'm getting side-tracked by other things that appear to be,well...I'll wait till I know for sure.

Try this at home:
Ask yourself how your brain feels -after you feel your 3rd eye fluttering?

[ 21-08-2001: Message edited by: kobol strom ]
 
 
Tucker Tripp
07:58 / 28.08.01
Couple o' Qs couple o' commsents.

The pineal gland is not in your forehead, right? So why does the sensation occur there?

I have experienced many third eye sensations. I can meditate on it and it feels like its trying to burst its eyelids open (not painful, but intense).

I have recently been conducting shamanic experiements which cause the back of my head to throb in a very precise spot you could say directly opposite my third eye?!...
 
 
Lionheart
17:21 / 31.08.01
Actually your third eye is in between the front and back of your head, right above your eyes.

Seeing with your eyes closed is theoretically (I'm talking from a scientist's perspective) possible. All your organs are formed out of your skin so the skin possibly has photoreceptors and your subconcious mind eventually figures out how to "see" through them. Though you have to learn how to access that pathway of neural information to actually see with your skin.

Speaking from experience, i've seen people discern colours with their skin after being hypnotised.

I've heard that placing objects near your forehead where your third eye is causes some kind of effect. Never tried it though.

Here's something interesting from KeelyNet...

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm

quote:The Florida Connection - Mental Shifts
NOTE: This was from a conversation I had several years ago, so the details might be a bit fuzzy....>>> Jerry

Walter Rawls, who worked with the effects of monopolar magnetic fields on matter with the late Albert Roy Davis, told me in a telephone conversation of his experiments with a North pole magnet situated over the pineal gland.

A mask was made which held the North pole end of a long cylindrical magnet over the pineal gland. The purpose was to stimulate the gland and see if there was anything to this 'third eye' business. Exposure was in the range of 10-30 minutes per day over a period of about 4 weeks.

Within the first week, he was sitting at his desk reading documents when he noticed something move out of the corner of his eye. As he looked up, the ghostly figure of a man had walked through one wall, moved across the room and disappeared through another wall. The figure was totally unaware of Walter. Further exposures to this North pole field took place over a second and third week.

The second week, the same ghostly figure moved through the room and glanced toward Walter as he passed through. This time, the figure appeared to have slightly more detail, not quite so ghostly.

The third week, busy working on documents, Walter noticed a change in the room. When he looked up, the wall had dissolved away and he was looking at a small hill where a man and woman sat beneath a tree. It was the same ghostly male figure who he'd seen on the other occasions. He sat quite still, watching this pastoral scene for several minutes.

The man looked over toward Walter and appeared startled. It was as if he clearly SAW Walter this time and possibly recognized Walter as the ghost he had seen the previous week! The image faded away and the wall restored to its normal condition. From that moment on, Walter never used the pineal stimulator again.

In conversations about this, with Walter and other interested people, it was mentioned that there is a theory that we have multiple energy bodies, much like the KA and the BA of ancient Egypt. Each energy body lives in another reality, yet communicates with our consciousness here in this reality.

Another comment was that consciousness simply creates an energy body in whatever reality it VISITS. Prolonged presence in a given reality increases the density of the energy body, moving from a phantom, ghostly form that was at first not easily perceptible to the inhabitants of the other reality until the intruding energy body had become sufficiently dense to trigger their senses.

That could explain why repeated exposures would add density to Walter's other reality body, allowing its denizens to perceive him, thus the startled reaction from the male figure.


Never tried this but that's because I couldn't find a north pole monopolar magnet.... And I couldn't use a normal bar magnet because I didn't know which side (positive or negative) was the north pole side.
 
 
RiffRaff
18:44 / 31.08.01
Er... I'm not anything near an expert in magnetism, but isn't it impossible to have a magnet that doesn't have both a north and south pole? How the hell would you get a monopolar magnet?
 
  
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