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Should we Exclude Certain Types of User Names?

 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
05:50 / 31.01.05
The current newest member is '-'. Now I have no reason to believe they are up to no good but, whereas you could Google my user name, though why you would I don't know, you can't do the same to find what they (or anyone else that uses punctuation as their user name) have posted. With the prospect of trollsome fun, should we perhaps ask members to use the wonderful 26-letter alphabet for their user name?
 
 
Smoothly
07:41 / 31.01.05
I think it's important that the The War Against Trolls isn't conducted like The War Against Terror. Insisting that members make themselves easy to find (via Google) feels wrong to me. For one thing, it might not be someone with the interest of the board at heart who'd be doing the finding.
 
 
.
10:34 / 31.01.05
Well, "." is pronounced as you would a glottal stop. As the dot as name is part of my online persona here and on other boards, I'd personally be a bit miffed if I had to change it just becuase punctuation as name is considered a bit leftfield. Anyway, if there can be a band called !!! ("Chk Chk Chk" or "Tik Tik Tik" depending on who you ask) then anything goes.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
19:06 / 31.01.05
No, everything does not, go, ., unless you have mistaken Barbelith for the Finsbury Garage. Keep your examples pertinent for maximum impact.

Now, onto the matter at hand. Well, there's precedent, says the board historian. Long names have now been prevented through technical application. Howwwwever:

1) There was a technical reason for that - long enough names without spaces knackered the frames. This is also why moderators go around every so often dealing with posts containing dozens of words strung together without spacing to indicate high emotion - they break the field. Punctuation marks for names don't do that.

2) If we need to track down somebody's previous actions - for example, to discover if they have the behaviour patterns of a troll - then we can ask Tom. In the absence of the "view posters' recent posts" function, which was _withdrawn_ precisely to prevent its abuse by trolls, that's the best we can do - which I think is actually not a terrible thing, as it means we only do this when it is necessary and are not encouraged to do it simply to settle scores. The collective memory of Barbelith is often just as useful - see the dead babies, or rather don't.

3) Having said which, there *are* problems associated with using a single punctuation mark as a name - mainly, it will make punctuation confusing and interfere with people's ability to respond comprehensively, or indeed to remember who you are. You also risk people thinking you are Modzero.

I don't think that's an argument for control, though. I think Barbelith should manage by exception, generally. If people want to have silly names, they are largely, within the technical capabilities of the board, free to do so, as long as they are not "passing off".
 
 
Seth
23:38 / 31.01.05
I've been considering changing my name to <<[[OOxOO]]>>

It'll make me seem pretty cool and interesting, I reckon.

You pronounce it Doomed Love Affair.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
01:00 / 01.02.05
This is also why moderators go around every so often dealing with posts containing dozens of words strung together without spacing to indicate high emotion - they break the field.

I realise this is off topic, but it doesn't really warrant its own thread, so...

I've been unsure how to handle those frame-breaking posts since the last redesign. They used to knacker the entire screen, but nowadays they only lead to the post in question having its border stretched. With that in mind, do they really need moderating? It's not like the rest of the thread is being rendered unreadable, and it doesn't look anything like as ugly as it used to.

I'm only really talking about overlarge images here, btw - long URLs are a mess (and people shouldn't be posting URLs anyway) and there's no good reason for posting an enormostring of AAAAAARRRGGS or whatever else is believed to be temporarily amusing. Pictures, though - do we still need to shrink them down?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
07:03 / 01.02.05
I think we probably should, just for ease of use - I guess it depends on how the individual moderator feels, and how big the image is, but generally having to scroll left to right (especially if the post has text as well as images) is a bit of a pain. If there is writing in the image that shrinkage would make illegible, things get a bit trickier...
 
 
Seth
08:44 / 01.02.05
How 'bout an enforced name change moderator option! Takes ten to vote on, and it could be our equivalent of being tarred and feathered! I can see no problems with this idea!
 
 
Olulabelle
13:46 / 01.02.05
I think we probably should, just for ease of use

I think we definitely should. Things ought to be tidy. TIDY I tell you.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
14:11 / 01.02.05
So, with Seth's option we get to change it to something like 'thinks ze's so cool using a punctuation mark as a name' and they don't get to change it for 30 days?

I suspect multiple punctuation marks like '!!!' or '$£^&' might be okay, Google might be able to search on those, it's a single point that is impossible. And thanks to Haus for explaining why I'm bringing this up better than I was able to do.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:43 / 01.02.05
If someobody was quite so intent on causing trollish mayhem, why in Christ's name would they use a name they'd use before, and, if they didn't, what possible use would Googling them be?

Unless they were very stupid.

(thinks for a minute)

Actually... I take your point. (Also, on further reflection, I can see that, search function not being what it could be, there could be many other reasons beside troll-hunting for which a Google search could be handy. But I wouldn't really say it was THAT much of a problem, surely?)

And I do think pictures should be resized- it's not as much of an issue as it used to be, as has been pointed out, but it looks... messy. Not sure why that should bother me, but it does.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
18:22 / 01.02.05
(thinks for a few more minutes)

I've just realised- Googling is also necessary for finding out what people have done on THIS board. I think that's what you meant. I think I missed the point somewhat.
 
 
Bed Head
19:45 / 01.02.05
Yeah, but, I think yer actual trolls are few and far between. Google can be kinda helpful sometimes, but it’s hardly essential. Mods are pretty sharp. Should surely be able to keep in mind what a bloke called ! (or whatever) is saying from one week to the next, anyway. It’s not exactly the most ingenious way of blending in with the rest of the board.

And Smoothly’s spot on wrt the possible downside to this whole search-on-user-names thing. Lets not get carried away with proclaiming the Absolute Necessity of it. Treat it more like a quiet, discreet, non-admissible phone tap, rather than a compulsory everything-you’ve-ever-done ID card that anyone can demand to see at any time. Or something.
 
 
-
04:19 / 04.02.05
sorry you don't like my name, it is something i have been using for a while and just brought it along. since we do most of the talking with text i didn't see pronounciation as a problem. you can say it as hyphen or dash or minus or invalid key or something. or i have a real name, matt, but there are lots of matts. besides i am uncreative and probably couldn't think of something that i'd dislike soon enough.

yes i see what was said about not blending in, but i originally chose it thinking that when you read posted by, it's as blank or minimal as possible (no i haven't tried space bar or _), so you just go read the text message. because here our voices and accents and expressions are reduced to a common format text, so what is typed is really the only important thing. even better at barbelith is you don't have those ridiculous flashing pictures in your signature that take up half the screen, or the avatars that really don't say a whole lot about the poster. here it is reduced to the textualized thoughts, and one can scroll through the conversation uninterrupted or distracted.

though i never considered the idea of google stalking my words...i promise i am not interesting enough or smart enough or stupid enough to be stalked. so if i cause problems it will be rather obvious. and Tom was nice enough to let me join, despite the threat of breaking my kneecaps, so i imagine he has already done a background check and knows where to attack me with a lead pipe if i am bad. but honestly i am here to learn, if i wanted to argue there are more than enough places for that.
 
 
grant
13:29 / 04.02.05
Well, I like your name.

MC pointed out in another thread that it's possible to track posts by user thusly, without needing to use the username. If anyone needs to do that. (I don't think I have, although once or twice it would have been handy.)
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
09:21 / 06.02.05
I'd just like to reemphasise that I have no reason to think that . or - are up to no good and apologise to them for any offense caused.
 
 
.
21:16 / 06.02.05
I'd just like to reemphasise that I have no reason to think that . or - are up to no good and apologise to them for any offense caused.

Although between us we could swear in morse code.




Anyway, no offense taken, so no worries.
 
 
-
00:36 / 08.02.05
none offense taken here either, it's just a borrowed character, nothing personal. you have practical reasons for which i was unaware of.

all i know is SOS but i forget if the dots or dashes are first.
 
 
Smoothly
09:36 / 08.02.05
-- --- .-. ... . -.-. --- -.. . -.-. --- -. ...- . .-. - . .-. .... . .-. . --..-- -- --- - .... . .-. ..-. ..- -.-. -.- . .-. ... .-.-.-
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
11:18 / 08.02.05
[Geektastic]

Which makes it tempting to change my name to

.--- .- -.-. .... -.-. .... --- .... -- . .... .----. .. .-- .-. .- .---
.--. . -. .- --. .... - .- .... .-.-.-

Although morse code is bad with capitals, so it doesn't work very well.

[/gt]
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:30 / 08.02.05
You want to be called "JACHCHOHMEH'IWRA.--- .--.ENAGHTAH."?
 
 
grant
17:15 / 08.02.05
It's Klingon, dear. Just leave it alone.
 
 
Cat Chant
09:48 / 10.02.05
Klingon in Morse Code? And people say barbelith is dying?

(I think that thing about being able to search by user w/o using username means that it's okay to leave names like . and - alone, isn't it?)
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:51 / 11.02.05
That's what I took it to mean.
 
 
Olulabelle
22:09 / 14.02.05
MC pointed out in another thread that it's possible to track posts by user thusly...

*Checks it out.*

That is highly ace. I wish I had a good reason to use it.
 
  
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