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Evocation for today

 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
17:52 / 25.01.05
I've been pondering and researching this one for a while, and seeing as the Temple is currently beset with a certain attention seeking asshat I thought I'd jump in and bump his ramblings down a notch.

Maybe it's the Dennis Wheatly novels I read as a kid, maybe it's the fact I've been listening to Mayhem (for some reason), maybe I just want to improve my "sk1llz", but I've been wondering about Evocation: the act of making a god-form/demon/angel "appear" outside oneself as opposed to Invocation, taking on the qualities associated with a particular thought-form.
Though I've got plenty of e-books on the subject (the Goetia, Franz Bardon's 'Practice of Magical Evocation') I've never been able to set myself out a practical way of evoking something (let's say for argument's sake, one of the entities from the Goetia). Whereas basic stuff like making a sigil can be broken down into a step-by-step process in the more technically minded Chaos handbooks, Evocation is always glossed over. When it is covered it usually involves using items and locations that somebody nowadays would have trouble finding (gold and silver rings, rooms aligned to the four points of the compass etc.)

So how does somebody go about using the hundreds of years of stuff written on Evocation in today's setting?
 
 
EvskiG
18:49 / 25.01.05
Lon Milo Duquette sets forth a fairly simple practical method in his edition of the Goetia (Aleister Crowley's Illustrated Goetia).


Since you can search inside the book on Amazon (U.S.), you can take a quick look for yourself. Search for the string "masking tape."

Must admit, though -- never tried it myself.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
20:54 / 25.01.05
try these:

pdf download - Aspects of Evocation

evocation without Sniffles

Functional Spirits
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
11:33 / 26.01.05
Invocation and evocation... I sometimes wonder how useful those categories actually are in terms of describing what happens when we interact with entities. To what extent are our actual experiences shaped by these classifications that we apply to them? I often find that evocatory work tends to involve a level of internal overshadowing, and invocatory work tends to seep over into the atmosphere of wherever you happen to be. How do you gauge whether something is conjured up and present in the room, or conjured into yourself or another? Is it really as clear cut as that? Is there an overlap between these conditions, and if so, is the categorisation of "invocation" and "evocation" a fairly arbitary one imposed onto the experience by the magician? How useful is it? What purpose does this classification serve? Does magic actually operate with this kind of self/other divide or is it something we construct ourselves as a filter on the experience?

Also, how would you differentiate invocation and evocation from possession? Generally, in possession work, you would do various things to call a Spirit down into a place, such as drawing their symbols on the ground, making offerings to them, drumming, dancing, etc... all of which has parallels with the idea of evocation. However, the aim of this evocatory work might be for the Spirit to take possession of someone in the ceremony, which is more like invocation.

I suppose you could argue that invocation in ceremonial magic tends to be a gentler and more subtle overshadowing than, say, a full possession in Vodou, where a celebrant's personality is completely displaced by the Spirit and they give prophecy, work magic, hold court, and so on. But I often find that there are different levels of possession anyway, ranging from being fully ridden to a mild overshadowing. My experience is often of a shift in the atmosphere of a place, which makes me feel differently – as if there is a strong presence in the room, which in turn effects what it feels like to be in that room. It's a bit like if a really angry, aggressive, confrontational person is present in your home, that presence would directly effect your experience of being there in the house with them. Working with Spirits seems to operate along similar lines, but the presence isnt tied to a body, so it can make you feel differently to the extent that you essentially start to become that presence yourself. Sometimes you embody the presence in the room or shift in atmosphere to such a degree that you are fully possessed by it, other times the shift in atmosphere may only bring on a shift in mood.

So how does this sort of process corelate with the categories of invocation and evocation? It seems to be a bit of both, and it does lead me to speculate that the use of such categories is something we impose onto the experience of interacting with an entity. Which is fair enough, if there's a good reason for applying these filters to the experience. Perhaps we want the specific effect of evoking something into a triangle, or invoking an emanation of divinity into yourself, and these experiences are integral to some Golden Dawn style system of spiritual attainment we're trying to make progress in. But for the most part, I'm not sure that's the case. It seems as if the inherited categories of invocation and evocation are just something that many contemporary magicians apply to interaction with entities as a matter of course, and they set artificial parameters for that interaction that might not always be useful or necessary for what you're trying to accomplish.

So to gear this more towards the question, I'd say that it's worth thinking in terms of interaction rather than evocation or invocation. Work out what it is you're actually trying to accomplish and approach it from that angle, rather than letting the form dictate the experience before you've even worked out which entity you want to speak to. I'd think about why you want to do this, which entity or spirit you want to communicate with, and what you hope to get from the operation. Then work out the most effective format for getting the kind of results you want from interaction with the specific entity you have in mind, taking into account the culture they belong to, the way they have traditionally been interacted with by previous generations, their likes, dislikes and idiosyncracies. What you ultimately want is results, so you have to gear the whole process in such a way that you will increase your likelihood of getting those results, conditioned by the resources available to you and what you can realistically accomplish.

I think entity interaction is best approached with a similar general ethic to human interaction. Say you were going on a date with someone who you know has refined tastes, and you wanted to impress them and attract their interest. A bunch of flowers and dinner at a flash restaurant is likely to influence that interaction and its outcome quite differently from a bag of chips and visit to your grimy local pub. I think that entity work operates on similar principles. If you know the Spirit in question likes all the pomp and circumstance of high ceremonial magic, then the closer you get to that, the happier and better disposed the entity is likely to be towards you. If you know they like a bottle of whisky, plates of spicy food and some drumming, then that's what's likely to get the best response, and therefore the best results.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
13:01 / 26.01.05
Does magic actually operate with this kind of self/other divide or is it something we construct ourselves as a filter on the experience?

Interesting questions, Gypsy. Generally speaking, invocation is when the magician identifies with the entity in question (such as a deity, for example) and experiences anything from mild overshadowing to full-on possession. Evocation is generally thought of in terms of treating the entity as though it were 'seperate' to the practitioner and sometimes 'placing' it in a container of some sort - a triangle in the case of The Lesser Key of Solomon, for example. I'd say that it is extremely likely that one will experience general 'ambience' shifts in terms of one's perceptions of the local space - the feeling of "something present" as it were. If the ritual is performed intensely (and my experience of doing the Lesser Key evocations is that it can get very intense) then of course the 'operator' - and any others present in the immediate vicintity - are going to be experiencing varying degrees of 'heightened perception' (can't think of a better way of putting this). So the "atmospheric shifts" you talk about are going to be occurring - and that these perceptual shifts contribute heavily towards 'creating' the overall experience.

The way I've tended to think about invocation v. evocation is that the invocatory approach involves entities which are biographically complex (i.e. they have distinct personalities and histories) and that evoked entities are biographically simple. This relates to the purposes underpinning the two types of operation. So might I invoke say, Othinn, in the hope that while I am identifying with him, I might trigger some flash of inspiration about the nature of the Runes (though it might be sometime later, of course), whereas I might evoke Haures in order to do a spot of smiting. Which kind of gets me into your question:

How do you gauge whether something is conjured up and present in the room, or conjured into yourself or another?

This is a good question. I can only say for now, that there's a degree of overlap between all three states. Its often assumed that if a group of magicians are invoking an entity into a designated ritualist, then that's what will occurr - but of course in possession-oriented traditions (like Voudun) any celebrant can become possessed, and I've seen this occurring in other modes of group ritual too. In the case of invocation/possession rituals, one might argue that you know when someone's possessed by a particular spirit when they start behaving in a manner consonant with that spirits' known attributes. Hence:

If you know they like a bottle of whisky, plates of spicy food and some drumming, then that's what's likely to get the best response, and therefore the best results.

In Goetic evocation, it's been my experience that I have never actually 'seen' (in the way I'm seeing my computer screen now) a goetic spirit standing in the triangle. Rather, one has a series of 'impressions' some of which may be visual, so that its more like clairvoyance than anything else. With all of the Goetic stuff I did, there was at least one other person present, and what we found that we were doing was that I'd say "I'm getting the impression of a black, spider-like thing in the triangle" and one of the other ritualists might say "I'm definitely getting the impression of "lots of spindly legs" so the overall experience is highly subjective, in that sense. However, coming back to this issue of "what the spirits" like, we did question some of the goetic spirits as to how they "liked" being summoned, and interestingly enough, they indicated that for them, the whole triangle/circle setup was what they preferred.

I rather like Pete Carrolls take on the distinction between invocation & evocation:

Conscious identification with, or inspiration from, anything as limited as say the medieval grimoire demons or the cthulhu mythos "gods" is to invite a serious reduction of the totality of ones usable selves. One is likely to end up with a lot less than one started with, for the simple minded programs that such entities consist of will rarely tolerate the existence of more sophisticated selves or "gods" on the conscious level and power has a tendency to flow most freely through the simplest circuits. The result is inevitably that narrowing focus of lifestyle and behaviour we recognise as obsession.

Better Wizardry
 
 
Chiropteran
14:11 / 26.01.05
From the Carroll article:

"The phenomena of invocation and evocation are both explicable in terms of either the spirit hypothesis or the hypothesis that the subconscious/unconscious is the actual source of parapsychological and inspirational effects. For convenience the latter hypothesis will be used exclusively during the remainder of this argument." [emphasis added]

Convenience aside, Pete seems (from what I've read) to have a strong bias towards/preference for the psychological hypothesis, so it's no wonder that his article has that as its focus. His cautions and considerations center largely around issues of practicality, and how well things will work within your own mind depending on the methods you choose. And, so far as the psychological hypothesis goes, it offers some pretty good insight and advice.

If, however, spirits do exist as autonomous beings outside your mind, then other factors come into play as well (as Gypsy Lantern suggests). Etiquette, compassion, and the spirit's own preferences become much more important, and not just as symbolic exercises to stimulate your unconscious.

As Carroll writes, attempts to evoke a god into a circle so you can tell hir what to do are likely to be less than satisfying. A significant difference between the two models of spirit "beingness," though, is that while in the psychological model your subconscious is simply going to be insufficiently triggered (or the godform will be built up in a less effective way), in the spirits-are-real model you might very well have to pay for your presumption (and therapy might not make it go away...). Order Ogun or Baron to stay in your circle and see what happens.

Beyond fear of retribution, though, is the simple question of consideration, and recognizing another being as another being. I'm sure we've all had the experience at one time or another of having a manager/customer/police officer order us around and treat us like a total non-entity, yes? It even happens sometimes when we're in a position of relative "power" that we are grudgingly obliged to do things for "underlings" that treat us like we're just machines that sign checks and approve vacation days. Doesn't feel so good, does it? So why should we behave the same way towards other spirits, especially ones that are supposed to be "higher" than us? Perhaps "gods" are above that sort of petty human feeling - or perhaps not. Certain of the Haitian lwa are well known to sulk or rage or weep piteously if their proper service is neglected, and it can take the coaxing and cajoling of the entire congregation to comfort them, and even then they may be reticent to fulfill requests until they've been honored properly.

That being said (and to bring things back a little towards the original question), some spirits (this will vary a lot, just as it would between different living humans) can be very forgiving of a person's inability to procure certain ritual items or offerings, so long as the desire and effort to fulfill as many of the proper conditions as possible are present (and the reason for calling them is a good one, in their eyes) - especially if we're talking about genuine worship/reverence/service, as opposed to simple curiosity or a need to get something done. Again, as Gypsy ("Mr. Lantern" if you're nasty) said, it's about interaction, and pursuing the kind of relationship that is most appropriate to what you're doing.

Dealing with "lower" spirits may be very different in some respects, but even then: don't we, as a society, tend to look down on people who mistreat dogs and horses and other "work animals?" (I suddenly have an image of Robert Redford as a "demon-whisperer.") Now, a given spirit or "demon" may have a well-earned reputation for treachery, and should be handled with appropriate caution, and it may take a firm hand to keep it from running amok, but I would think that in that sort of case especially it would be important to consider that spirit's "objective" existence. "It's just a piece of my own subconscious" is the type of rationalization that can comfort someone into reglecting safety considerations (not that a rebellious bit of your own mind isn't plenty dangerous in its own right, but it's still easier to gloss over the risks). I have significantly less experience with this side of things, though, so I'll leave off here, but I still think that the Carroll article - as good as I think it is (and I do) - should only be taken as part of the story, depending on one's own views of spiritual phenomena.

~L
 
 
rising and revolving
16:11 / 26.01.05
The way I've tended to think about invocation v. evocation is that the invocatory approach involves entities which are biographically complex (i.e. they have distinct personalities and histories) and that evoked entities are biographically simple.

Where does the invocation of qualities fit into this? By which I mean things like "invoking the element of fire" for example - they'd seem to be biographically simple, but more suited to invoking rather than evoking...
 
 
trouser the trouserian
04:56 / 27.01.05
I still think that the Carroll article - as good as I think it is (and I do) - should only be taken as part of the story, depending on one's own views of spiritual phenomena.

Oh absolutely. I don't favour the "subconscious" model myself, although I do feel that there are psychological factors which contribute to shaping these sorts of experience such as collusion & expectancy, but even these are not entirely 'internalised' but hail from the realm of social psychology. For my own part, I tend to speculate not so much about spirits being solely 'internal' or 'external', but somewhere inbetween.

In general, I'd say that however one conceptualises entities, the most effective modus operandi is to treat them as real and independent, regardless of whether one's invoking a deva from the Vedas or a servitor that's just been made up and is entirely concerned with finding lost pens.

As for "qualities" Janus - what do you think? I don't have a grand theory of everything into which any phenomena can be neatly slotted, I'm just throwing out some thoughts.
 
 
Unconditional Love
18:24 / 27.01.05
its possible to start out from the premise that summoning of any kind is an awareness that subject and object are the flow, signal. that what is taking place is more of a communication and the perception and becoming of that communication are alternately invocation and evocation.

what i see in vodou is the fusion of both elements, the vevers, drumming, singing etc create the nessecary external environment for the possession and are just as integeral to the possession and to the celebration/ritual as the possession.

i dont really think a line can be drawn in experience where an interaction such as communication is taking place, as i communicate the flow of what i communicate and interact with becomes me as much as parts of me are absorbed into it. yet the overall point to me would be a merging of subject and object, and its the concentration upon the communication that achieves this. in each model communication seems to me to be the overiding factor nessecary to both models of interaction.

its this flow of communication thats integrated into awareness and at some point in perception, internal and external become the same locality, the division between consciousness and what is percieved as seperate from consciousness, is no longer divided.
 
  
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