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Imbolc

 
 
Colonel Kadmon
00:30 / 25.01.05
Due to magic, age and hill-walking, I'm becoming more and more aware and atuned to the changing of the seasons. One aspect of this has been that the Celtic calendar has become very important to me. Walking across the Leith Links the other day, I saw the first few snowdrops poking through, and a single blossom on a cherry tree, and thought, "wow, still the worst cold to come, but life's already getting ready to go again". AAnd I started to look forward to Imbolc.

But Samhain, Yule and Aostra are all easy to observe, because of the big Christianised\Westernised holidays that we celebrate in their place. But what about Imbolc? How can I observe it? How do other 'Lithers celebrate it?

To get the ball rolling, I'm going to make a corn cross - if I can find some corn!
 
 
gale
17:16 / 25.01.05
I will burn candles--lots of them! And I have a cinnamon broom in my kitchen that I will annoint with cinnamon oil. I know eating seeds and nuts of various kinds is also traditional, and IMO sharing them with outdoor creatures (seen and unseen) should be. Imbolc is a joyful time to bring in the light and give the darkness a rest.
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
23:50 / 25.01.05
Yes, lots of candles will be good.

It would be nice to get something fresh to eat, though, rather than stuff that's been stored over the winter. It is the Goddess's rebirth that we're celebrating, after all.
 
 
betty woo
14:42 / 29.01.05
I celebrated with a few mates last weekend: the focus was on food and candles, specifically food that would traditionally be available around this time of year, so lots of root vegetables and preserves. Everyone brought candle stubs from their own homes, which were used to light the table. Dunno, not so much a celebration as a polite nod in the direction of Imbolc, I suppose...
 
 
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03:02 / 30.01.05
Will definately be paying my respect to Brigid, although I'm not sure how yet. Probably with candles, stones and my Celtic pendants.
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
00:01 / 31.01.05
Does anyone know exactly when it is?

I had a look at what is seasonal, food-wise, (kind of a thing of mine) and I'm gonna use loads of apples, cabbage, kale, as well as nuts and all that stuff. Mussels are delicious just now, as is pork, but my girls a veggie, natch...

I saw snowdrops for the first time this year today, and it sent a shiver up my spine...
 
 
gale
18:52 / 31.01.05
Imbolc is celebrated on February 2nd over here (in the US), but on February 1st in the UK and Europe. I read that this is because it became confused with the catholic holiday of candlemas, which is celebrated on the 2nd. If you do a web search, some sites say it is on February 1 or 2.

Milk, cheese, and dried fruit are also traditional Imbolc foods, and of course any seasonal stuff. An Imbolc practice that I just read about is to pour some milk out on to the ground to symbolically nourish what is growing underground now, or has just emerged (like the snowdrops you saw).
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
02:52 / 01.02.05
I went to an Imbolc celebration last year. I got a very weird, nasty feeling from it. It was like something oily over my skin. I also got the distinct impression that Brigid doesn't like me. She was there, and she didn't seem to like me. This could very possibly be because I told her in no uncertain terms that I was not interested in being pushed around by deities. She didn't seem to like that.

I've been very reluctant to involve myself in any rituals involving this group of pagans ever since. I dunno, maybe I'm just too used to dealing with chaos magick servitors like Gek, weird little numina, and my own personal servitor spirits.
 
 
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03:07 / 01.02.05
I also got the distinct impression that Brigid doesn't like me.

I think she loves us all. Maybe she wanted to teach you something.
 
 
eye landed
09:19 / 01.02.05
Samhain, Yule and Aostra are all easy to observe, because of the big Christianised\Westernised holidays that we celebrate in their place

i didnt know it was imbolc, but im celebrating chinese new year on febuary 2nd. this is merely an exciting coincidence (a taiwanese student group at my university is having a party), since chinese new year is on february 9th. i will be sure to look out for signs of celtic consciousness amidst the taiwanese ambiance.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
10:23 / 01.02.05
I also got the distinct impression that Brigid doesn't like me. She was there, and she didn't seem to like me. This could very possibly be because I told her in no uncertain terms that I was not interested in being pushed around by deities. She didn't seem to like that.

Why would she? It's a bit like going up to someone who you've never met, but whose birthday party you are at, and whose table you are drinking at, and saying: "Listen you! I know it's your birthday and everything, and you probably think you're pretty special, but I'm not taking any of your shit! OK? I've heard all about your sort, so don't get any ideas about pulling a fast one! Get the message?"

I think she's perfectly within her rights to tell you to fuck off right back, to be honest. I know I would.

If you're not prepared to be "pushed around" by dieties, how do you expect to ever learn anything from them? How do you expect to gain anything from the experience if you're not prepared to let them take the lead and run the show for a bit? If you're not prepared to invest a bit of trust and faith in their mysteries, then you're unlikely to ever get anything particularly rewarding, valuable or transformative from the experience of dealing with them, much like any other relationship.

I dunno, maybe I'm just too used to dealing with chaos magick servitors like Gek, weird little numina, and my own personal servitor spirits.

Which is a completely different area of magic. Working with diety is not the same as working with servitors and lesser spirits. The whole point of a diety is that they are a diety, and should be treat as such if you want to get the most from interacting with them. Servitor work never really pushes you outside of your comfort zone, in the same way that diety work does. You are completely running the show with servitor work, not so with diety work. In terms of organised crime, working with a servitor is like paying a thug £100 to kneecap the owner of a cafe who you want sorted out, working with a diety is like trying to get in the good books with a Mafia Don that looks over a particular turf you want to be involved with. Your reasons for going to them are often quite different, the range of things they can offer you is quite different, and therefore the whole interaction should be approached using completely different criteria.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
12:44 / 01.02.05
In addition- you should be glad it was Brigid you were being nasty to and not one of those ratty ones who hold a grudge.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
12:52 / 01.02.05
The whole point of a diety is that they are a diety

A deity, even. I'm not sure what a "diety" is. Possibly a sentient, self-aware manifestation of the group mind of everyone whose ever signed up with weightwatchers or something...
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
23:02 / 01.02.05
The confusion over the dates of the festival is probably because of Celtic festivals being celebrated from sunset on one night until sundown on the next. That's why Halloween, All Hallow's Eve, is more important than All Saint's Day. I have a theory that that's the reason why Hogmanay is more important in Scotland than New Year's Day.
 
 
Colonel Kadmon
00:16 / 03.02.05
Have a nice Imbolg, everyone. Light lots of candles. Feast on the last of your reserves. It'll be summer before you know it.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
02:27 / 04.02.05
Why would she? It's a bit like going up to someone who you've never met, but whose birthday party you are at, and whose table you are drinking at, and saying: "Listen you! I know it's your birthday and everything, and you probably think you're pretty special, but I'm not taking any of your shit! OK? I've heard all about your sort, so don't get any ideas about pulling a fast one! Get the message?"

I think she's perfectly within her rights to tell you to fuck off right back, to be honest. I know I would.


Not quite. I would have respected her more if she'd...y'know...asked to come in. But she was rather more forceful than that.

If you're not prepared to be "pushed around" by dieties, how do you expect to ever learn anything from them? How do you expect to gain anything from the experience if you're not prepared to let them take the lead and run the show for a bit? If you're not prepared to invest a bit of trust and faith in their mysteries, then you're unlikely to ever get anything particularly rewarding, valuable or transformative from the experience of dealing with them, much like any other relationship.

Oh I'm willing to trust their mysteries, I'm not willing to let deities push their way in and push me around without asking first. I've learned quite a bit from some of the deities and spirits I've dealt with in the past. I don't mind being led or taught, its being pushed and commanded that I can't stand.

Part of the problem, now that I think about it and look at the email I sent afterwards apologizing (at a friend's urging) to the chaplain who presided over the ritual, I also realize that part of the problem that came up was the fact that it was a ritual banishing Winter, whereas I have a pretty close connection with said season. This is possibly where the enmity came from, being that I hold onto Winter and I was involved in a ritual summoning a god to, effectivly, banish it and welcome Spring. This may possibly be the root of the problem.

If anyone has any suggestions on how would go about making amends, or at least opening a dialogue, I'm open to suggestions. I know very little about the Celtic deities and how to contact them.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
09:37 / 04.02.05
Not quite. I would have respected her more if she'd...y'know...asked to come in. But she was rather more forceful than that.

Well... you were doing a ritual to call on her, at her festival, on her day, y'know... If that isnt an huge invitation for Her to come through and generally behave in the way that entities do, then I don't know what is... I'd imagine she might have been a bit puzzled why someone was calling on her in a big way, but actually didnt want her at all when she manifested!

Oh I'm willing to trust their mysteries, I'm not willing to let deities push their way in and push me around without asking first.

If you do a big ritual for an entity on their feast day, then you're basically saying to them "please come to us so we can share in your mysteries". I'd say that anything that then happens within the space of that ritual is very much the result of your previous actions. You have very directly asked for and invited this phenomena simply by being there and calling to her on her day. If you didnt want Brigid coming to you with messages from beyond and telling you what she wants done, then why were you there in the first place? It's not like she jumped into your head unexpectedly when you were cooking chips on a sunday night... You were doing ritual magic with the expressed purpose of calling on her!

I'd say it's a pretty good result you've got there, to actually have Her coming on strong and telling you stuff. Everything from voices in the head, to paranormal activity, to full possession is a big sign that you're doing something right. Even if an entity comes on aggressively, the very fact that they are speaking to you at all is sign enough that they've taken an interest. The skill of entity work is in then negotiating that relationship, including any problematic aspects, in order to find something that works for you both. This does not happen by laying down the law on first contact - any more than it would with another human being - you have to court them, chat them up, get them on your side. They don't owe you anything. By doing a ritual to honour them, you are basically knocking on their door. How you behave when they answer will determine how the relationship develops. I daresay that from Brigid's perspective, you may have done the magical equivalent of ringing someone's doorbell, telling them to fuck off and then running away.

I don't mind being led or taught, its being pushed and commanded that I can't stand.

You pretty much have two options then, either stop calling on God/desses fullstop and stick to smaller spirits, or else learn not to be a shrinking violet and negotiate with them. They will come on strong and forceful from time to time, particularly if something is bothering them or if they've singled you out as a likely person to help them do something. Knowing how to deal with that, and how to maintain your ground politely and respectfully within the ongoing dialogue that's taking place is what it's all about. If you don't want that, or are not prepared to take on the hassle of trying to keep things sweet with demanding entities, then don't go calling on them.

If anyone has any suggestions on how would go about making amends, or at least opening a dialogue, I'm open to suggestions. I know very little about the Celtic deities and how to contact them.

I find that most entities, from tradition to tradition, tend to respond to broadly similar things. It's about bigging them up, showing your respect, and honouring them. Build a temporary altar to them, decorate it with things associated with them, do a bit of research/use your intuition and find out what sort of offerings they like in terms of food and drink, light candles to them in their colours, celebrate them, treat it like a little party for them. If you're a musician, play them some music. If you're an artist, draw them a picture. If you're a writer, write a little poem about them and read them it. This can all be done within the context of the ritual itself. Once things are heated up and they are present, listen to what they have to say, be respectful throughout, don't agree to anything you're not prepared to follow through on, don't ask for anything you're not prepared to pay for. Have a chat, shoot the breeze, raise a glass to them. If you want to build a relationship with them, which is largely the point of entity work and certainly the most rewarding approach, then repeat this process of talking to them and celebrating them regularly until it takes on a life of it's own. Let it come alive, and respond to it naturally and honestly, like you're cultivating a freindship with another living being, which you are.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
14:50 / 04.02.05
Good advice, GL, thank you. I'll put some thought into this.

I perhaps wasn't totally clear in my initial post, though. I wasn't the one doing the ritual, I attended one held by the local pagans club at my university. There were at least 10 or so people there, though I didn't really hear from any of them that they'd seen a manifestation or a felt a presence, but they might just not have been saying.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
13:16 / 07.02.05

I perhaps wasn't totally clear in my initial post, though. I wasn't the one doing the ritual, I attended one held by the local pagans club at my university. There were at least 10 or so people there, though I didn't really hear from any of them that they'd seen a manifestation or a felt a presence, but they might just not have been saying.

I think this raises an interesting set of issues. Personally, I would say that by being there – present in the room in the same space as the people calling on Deity, and with the expressed purpose of celebrating Imbolc/St Bride's – means that you were doing the ritual. Regardless of whether or not you were leading it, your presence in the room implicates you entirely. Were you an innocent bystander swept up into unwanted gnosis by a team of guerilla ritualisers? If so, why didnt you run away when you realised what was going on? At some level you made the decision to remain there and be a part of what was going on.

A church congregation might not all be standing at the front in priestly robes conducting the ceremony, but they are all involved and implicated because of their decision to be present at that time and place. Similarly, in Haitian Vodou, the Lwa tend to possess members of the attending congregation rather than the preciding Houngan or Mambo, whose job it is to remain in control of the ceremony, direct things, placate the Spirits, and so on. So I think you were effectively "doing the ritual" by being in the presence of it, and therefore inviting spontaenous posession, or whatever, to the same degree as any pentecostal churchgoer or Vodouissant.

Personally, I never, in any circumstances, will participate or hang around for a magical ceremony that I'm not 100% involved with, or that doesnt have a very specific purpose that I'm fully behind and want done. But a lot of people do this as a matter of course, almost recreationally. I've found myself in situations before when people, particularly chaos magicians, consider me a bit squeamish or superstitious for not being up for whatever magic is going. But I think magic is a serious business, and to just jump into a ritual for the sake of it, is almost a denial of the reality and potency of magic in general. If you're participating in a group ritual, you have to be prepared for the consequences of that ritual; so if I don't know exactly what the score is with something down to the last detail, there's no way I'm going to put myself in that situation. I wouldnt go anywhere near such a set of variables because I operate from the perspective that magic is real. I do often find myself in a minority position with this attitude though, which is quite interesting.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
14:46 / 07.02.05
I think this raises an interesting set of issues. Personally, I would say that by being there – present in the room in the same space as the people calling on Deity, and with the expressed purpose of celebrating Imbolc/St Bride's – means that you were doing the ritual. Regardless of whether or not you were leading it, your presence in the room implicates you entirely. Were you an innocent bystander swept up into unwanted gnosis by a team of guerilla ritualisers? If so, why didnt you run away when you realised what was going on? At some level you made the decision to remain there and be a part of what was going on.

The University of Toronto Pagans Society holds open rituals every once and a while, most often performed by the largley Celtic executives (though there was the notable Discordian seminar which involved six people sitting in a room for 20 minutes while the guy holding it waited down the hall to see how they'd react when he didn't show on time). I thought it would be neat to go along and see how it went, so I went along with a friend. There really wasn't any way of getting out of it one it had started, so I was sort of stuck (I could have left, but it would have meant interrupting the whole thing for everyone else).
 
  
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