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An entire year of Sigils. A progress report.. Do's and Donts

03:56 / 06.08.01

So it's been about a year since I got into this sigil business. So here are some results and observations.

1. I got rid of a fat, drunken, slob of a neighbor.

2. I had a specific girl fall in love with me.

3. I received specific amounts of money.

4. I had wild sex.

Now that I read the above I realise I'm not using my magic for the uplifting of the population. Oh well.

Got rid o the neighbor and was quite pleased. Took roughly 3 weeks after activation.

The girl falling in love with me turned out to be disasterous. That and variations of that sigil left me with grief upon grief and made me give this thing up for several months. The specifics of these love sigils worked, usually took a week or so, but it was like the "curse of the golden monkey paw" or something. You know, ya wish for lots o money, and your wife dies in an accident, or you wish for everyone in the world to die so you can read your comics and your glasses break, Twilight Zone type of stuff. So from now on I'm staying far away from altering people's emotions.

The money things interesting. If I sigil vaguely, like I desire for a lot of money, nothing usually happens. But if I get specific "I desire five hundred dollars" then i usually get it pretty close in a weeks time.

And the wild sex sigil. It was more a spur of the moment visualization/invocation of the comic book charater Moon Knight type deal, but close enough to a sigil, I suppose. That worked well and took one day. I have to try that again actually.

Anyway, I have found it to be useful, but I guess this year I'll branch out a little. More in the area of my career, or lack thereof, and creative endeavors. So, banishing good, love spells bad, money spells good, meaningless sex spells good. At least in my experience.

10:31 / 06.08.01

quote: The money things interesting. If I sigil vaguely, like I desire for a lot of money, nothing usually happens. But if I get specific "I desire five hundred dollars" then i usually get it pretty close in a weeks time.

Funny: I get the same thing with prayer. The more specific the request, the more likely it is to be answered. I read several books encouraging very detailed petitionary and intercessory prayers. Anyone else found this?

13:27 / 06.08.01

I agree that it's best to be specific when petitioning the Gods/sigiling/praying.

During my most recent period of unemployment, I made it clear that I wanted a job that paid well (I gave a specific amount of $k/year), was easy to get to from my house and would not be stressful or emotionally taxing.

The first job interview I got was for the job I have now, in the Flatiron district of Manhattan. Beautiful space, good music on the stereo, and the first thing my prospective boss tells me is "You know, this job is actually pretty easy and no-pressure." I took the job and he was right.

My one qualm was that the job paid less than what I asked for...but within 5 months my pay got raised to exactly what I wanted originally.

So yeah, it helps to think about what you want and be specific.

z3r0

13:39 / 06.08.01

this is SO fucking cool.

14:23 / 06.08.01

Thanks for the report.

Mordant Carnival

15:49 / 06.08.01

Yeah, so long as you don't box yourself in with too many details, it helps to be specific. Otherwise you ask for a new job and end up litter-picking in Hyde Park like... errr... this freind of mine. Obviously being the git'ard chaoette that I am, I'd never make a mistake like that.

16:31 / 06.08.01

Mordant is right, getting bogged down in too many details diffuses the energy. But in asking for (as an example, since it worked for me) a phat new job, you really need only remember a few things:

1) NO STRESS (unless you're one of those who thrive on compettion and back-biting)

2) E-Z Commute

3) Well within a field of personal/career interest

4) <Ka-CHING!!!$$$> Here you really need to be specific and realistic. Don't ask for $100K/year unless you know you've got the skills to get a job like that. but if you have what it takes to bag a $50K, 75K job...by all means make it clear that you want to make 50-75K. Before taxes.

16:46 / 06.08.01

HI

I'm new to this, so I have a basic question...When you say you pray/sigil..etc what do you mean exactly...? Is it similar to meditating and imagining yourself attaining what you wish for..I would love details please

( I know it's probably individual, but I don't know too many people I can discuss magick with)

By the way, do you guys believe in sending people colours, from your aura, to make them feel a certain way/respond favourably etc, e.g. pink/peach to make them like you...It's something I was taught ages ago and never really tried, just wondering if anyone had known it to work.

17:25 / 06.08.01

quote:Originally posted by expressionless:
Funny: I get the same thing with prayer. The more specific the request, the more likely it is to be answered. I read several books encouraging very detailed petitionary and intercessory prayers. Anyone else found this?

Y'know, I've never actually thought of it that way with the sigil magick, but that's definitely true for tarot readings an' such like: ask specific, expect general.

Weird.

Mordant Carnival

17:38 / 06.08.01

quote:Originally posted by Myfi:
HI I'm new to this, so I have a basic question...When you say you pray/sigil..etc what do you mean exactly...? Is it similar to meditating and imagining yourself attaining what you wish for..I would love details please ( I know it's probably individual, but I don't know too many people I can discuss magick with)

By the way, do you guys believe in sending people colours, from your aura, to make them feel a certain way/respond favourably etc, e.g. pink/peach to make them like you...It's something I was taught ages ago and never really tried, just wondering if anyone had known it to work.

Wotcha, Myfi. Glad to have you with us.

A sigil is a graphic representation of an intent. The basic tecnique is simple: Write down what it is you want, cross out all the vowels and repeated consonants, then take the single consonants and turn them into a pretty design.

eg: MY WILL IS TO VISIT PARIS becomes MY WLL S T VST PRS, which becomes MY WL S T V PR

Which becomes a nice-looking doodle, or sigil. (You can also turn your this into a magick word or a mantra by slinging in some random vowels.)
You then charge the sigil, possibly by using it as a focus for meditation or by doing something else to get rid of extraneous thought, such as vigourous exercise or-
Well(and this may offend you horribly but it's hard to put it in a ladylike way), the moment of, shall we say, climax is a really good time to charge a sigil. (Look, stop sniggering at the back, you lot. It's not funny. Stop laughing. Okay?)
Check the older posts for some other suggestions.

Prayer, I think, does what it says on the tin. I am a horrible godless little creep, so I won't presume to comment further.

Never sent anyone colours myself, except this once when a chap I knew was in hospital; I had a very strong notion I should "give" him rose pink. Don't know why.

Other than this, check the Internet for hints and tips. It's the best and biggest grimoire that ever there was.

Good luck!

18:12 / 06.08.01

Hi Myfi!!!

I come from a Neo-Pagan background, so working with godforms comes very easily to me. Therefore I decide upon my intent and petition a particularly suitable deity to work in my favour.

I'm not sure how similar to prayer my method is, it's more like a dialogue between levels of reality. There is a similarity to mediation in terms of focus, both on the goal and the divinity as a channel to help achieve that goal. But for me personally, it's more active than meditation. The godform of my choice is not doing it FOR me; S/he is working WITH me to get done what needs to be done.

18:47 / 06.08.01

Hi Mordant

Thanks for that

I am probably jumping in at the deep end but I am halfway thru my first sigil

so fingers crossed...

Ierne, I have a daft question...you know when you communicate with whichever deity...well, I've always wondered whether I am missing something which other people seem to be able to do...I mean, do you hear words, get flashes of ideas, see pictures? How does that happen? I know before I lost my Catholic belief I used to find comfort in an image of Jesus who I believed was always with me and I could feel a sort of protecting male presence in my head...but I suspect this was probably the result of a susceptible mind and too many gospels

Having said that, lots of stuff used to come naturally to me as a child, for example, you know when you meditate and you get the big/small thing where you feel as big as infinity then small and insignificant...well I used to get that most nights before going to sleep, as soon as i closed my eyes...also, I used to picture calm scenes in my mind then imagine an energy leaving my hands...all this was before I'd looked into it or knew any better than Catholic domination.

I don't quite know why I'm rambling, it's just that I feel the need to be a part of something, but there's so many doors and the keys are rusty...or something

Hehe, that's enough theosophical rambling for one evening

Myfi

Mordant Carnival

18:56 / 06.08.01

This whole thing seems to have gone heinously but scrumptiously off-topic, so I'll see you all at the "Jesus says relax" thread I'm starting as of now.

Thcrew you gahhths, ehhmm going hemmm.

19:08 / 06.08.01

Oooops, apologies

Myfi (who can't help but barge in asking questions)

19:23 / 06.08.01

Myfi:

Start a new thread with your questions and when I get in tomorrow morning I'll do my best to answer them, yeah?

reidcourchie

08:09 / 07.08.01

Back on the subject of sigils I cannot get thes damn things to work.

16:19 / 07.08.01

Ierne

OK, thanks

Mordant Carnival

18:42 / 08.08.01

quote:Originally posted by reidcourchie:
Back on the subject of sigils I cannot get thes damn things to work.

Hey man, why not start another thread detailing:

a) What you were trying to achieve
b) The techniques you used to achieve it
c) What happened/didn't happen.

Maybe somebody can help you out.

Mordant Carnival

18:48 / 08.08.01

...And having been instrumental in wresting this thread away from the path of righteousness and into the outer darkness known to men as Off Topic, I'd just like to say:

Ooops.

And a big thanks to Jack Denfield for the information he's provided here. It's good to read about other people's results and how they got them. Magick is hard work, and anything that helps a person stay motivated is good.

00:31 / 10.08.01

ok, I've also been doing this for a little more than a year...and here's my report:

1) Got a specific girl to have awesome sex with me

2)Got my Math teacher to ignore my straight F's, hook me up and pass me.

3)Got a (another) specific girl to fall in love with me (but then realized I didn't love her, just thought she was hot.)

4) Wrote a brilliant story.

5) Traveled Europe and got a rich chick (see # one) to pay for everything in exchange for sex. And no, I never once lied to her or told her I loved heror anything!

6)Got a new car for free. (A lady smashed into it while it was parked and a week later her insurance payed for my new one.)

7) Met a girl I really like (and don't worry, she's hot too)

8) Got my brother a better job.

Man, reality is my play thing! Where the hell was sigil magic when I was in High School? I coulda been Prom King!

Mordant Carnival

04:40 / 10.08.01

quote:Originally posted by impulsivelad:
Man, reality is my play thing! Where the hell was sigil magic when I was in High School? I coulda been Prom King!

My feelings exactly! I couldv'e got better grades, got a proper job, found some nicer housemates.... damn! Where was all this stuff when I was 18, eh? Why was I still trying to convince myself that asking for stuff I actually wanted was eeeeevilllllll?

Here's a few things that happened over the last year or so that sort of make up for all of that:

#1: Helped my boyf get a very prestigious research grant.

#2: Landed various temp jobs whenever I happened to want them.

#3 Improved my grades at Uni.

#4 Lost weight.

#5 Got a nice flat where the upstairs neighbour is a close friend, rather than some dipstick who phones the landlord if you sneeze after 10:30.

#6 A load of personality engineering crap as mentioned in other posts.

Sigils I've done that haven't worked so far: just the one, tho' it was a biggie- trying to land my boyf a job in London so he doesn't have to commute/rent out digs elsewhere. So far, no dice. But I'm working on it.

05:08 / 26.11.01

I've pretty much given up the magic for quite some time. I'm just not motivated. But someone give me a progress report on their sigils. Maybe it will get me moving again.