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Is there a magician's demographic?

03:02 / 31.07.01

Do magicians tend to hold similar philosophical/political beliefs in contrast to those who don't consider themselves magicians?

I ask because I always tend to think of a magician as someone who might post on barbelith, but there's no reason for feeling this when I consider the fact that most of the magicians I know about either post on Barbelith or have been linked to from here.

04:18 / 31.07.01

Stage magicians probably have an organization similiar to the Screen Writers Guild or some such. Magicians who think they can change reality on some level or another by force of will are about as ecclectic as the masses when it comes to philosophy and poltics.

The majority of them probably don't go around discussing it publically, at that. It's a far more secretive (and potientally embarassing in some cultures) practice than some will admit.

On that note, the occultists in the basement are just as likely to be Democrats as they are Republican.

More likely Republican. Everyone knows that the Republicans are owned by the Illuminati, and it doesn't get much more magical than that.

15:10 / 05.08.01

Yes, I'm almost totally in agreement with the above; politically, you get hard left and hard right magicians, and all that lies in between. However, them who do magick do adhere to the notion that 'the mind' is not distinct from 'external reality' in the way that so much (Cartesian?) philosophy claims. 'As within, so without' and all that. Obviously that philosophical notion isn't held just by magickians, but it's integral to (western) magick.