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Divination for 2005

 
  

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Tamayyurt
02:54 / 10.12.04
Well, 2004 sucked mad ass for me. What can we look forward to in the coming year? Horoscopes, Tarot, Runes, Numerology…whatever system you got let’s here the forecast!
 
 
rising and revolving
15:21 / 10.12.04
"What will 2005 hold for the western world" - standard celtic cross.

Short answer, new beginnings, taking a breather, getting on with the new phase. Outcome ... dicey. Still in the hands of fate - too many options avaliable and indecision prevailing. The beginning of a new cycle - but it's not going to be easy to tell which way things are going by the end of 2005. No end to war in sight.

Is this change for the good, or change for the worse? Hard to tell. It doesn't seem so much a "wiping the slate clean and starting afresh" as much as drawing a line under everything that exists and defining that as zero. Everything in the past is no longer relevant to the future.

Cards in detail for those who care

Used The World to represent the querent.

Center : Fool
Crossing : 4 of Swords
Root : Death
Past : Ace of Pentacles
Future : Two of Swords
Poss. Outcome : Wheel of Fortune
Querent : Eight of Wands
Environment : 9 of Wands
Hopes/Fears : Judgement
Outcome : 7 of Cups
 
 
gale
15:37 / 10.12.04
Now, this is interesting!

I'm at work and my divinatory stuff is at home, so I opened up the book I'm reading (The Confusion--Neal Stephenson), asking "what will 2005 be like for the western world?" I got the phrase "back to the starting place." It was on page 647, if someone wants to fool around with the number.
 
 
gale
15:42 / 10.12.04
Correction: The title of the book is System of the World. Guess I was confused
 
 
Papess
16:34 / 10.12.04
What a fantastic reading Janus. Instinctually, I feel it's quite accurate. I haven't done one myself, but now I don't feel I have to!

Hmm, any sign of a Barbemeet for Montrealithers in 2005?

*wink*
 
 
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17:17 / 10.12.04
It was on page 647, if someone wants to fool around with the number.

The thing that strikes me is that it's Kabbalistically :

Tipareth > Chesed > Netzach
6 > 4 > 7

This to me signifies Tipareth : learning how to remove ourselves and realize that we are not the things we are collectively obsessed with. Find the center, step back and take a good look at just what we've done, let it sink in.

Then repair the damage : 4 > 7 going up to Chesed and down to Netzach, both Feminine. Meaning first stop warmongering and let the loving energies re-balance the situation at Chesed, then also remove ourselves from our obsession with data/thinking/left-brained activities and be more creative at Netzach, hopefully stopping this mess from starting up again.

Bring more balance back into the world because the Masculine energies are ruling it so badly that it's falling apart.

I don't know how much that helps, or even if it does at all.
 
 
rising and revolving
17:33 / 10.12.04
Thanks for the kind words! As for a Montreal gathering, I'd be there with bells on now. The last one was slap bang at the start of my losing the plot / dark night of the soul / initiation experience, and social paranoia got the best of me. Now I'm out the other side of that, and I'm keen to meet locals under pretty much any guise of excuse. I'll take this to the gathering, methinks.
 
 
Tamayyurt
13:49 / 11.12.04
Wow, I do find it very interesting that both janus and gale’s predictions were about new beginnings and starting over.
 
 
the Fool
04:19 / 13.12.04
I don't know if this counts as a prediction, but this...



Has returned to my consciousness after a long absence. I can't really describe how I've been feeling lately. A lot of remembering dreams within dreams. And another feeling, sorta futuristic that I haven't felt in ages.

 
 
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06:59 / 13.12.04
Wow, that second one is really interesting. Did you do these images yourself? They look really good.
 
 
Elbereth
08:27 / 13.12.04
earthquake big california north coast possibly june or sooner. my method is mostly dreaming with real life indicators.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
13:53 / 13.12.04
Wow, I do find it very interesting that both janus and gale’s predictions were about new beginnings and starting over.

Yeah, because those are really unusual themes to come up in a divination about what the new year will bring... spooky shit....
 
 
Papess
15:01 / 13.12.04
I see your point Gypsy, but it is possible to start a new year and make no real changes, other than one's calendar. It is also possible that the change could come in a violent and disruptive manner, instead of the manner that has been suggested.
 
 
rising and revolving
17:54 / 13.12.04
True, but I pretty much agree with Gypsy - predicting change is not exactly rocket science. Even so, it's nice to see where things line up and where they don't. We need more samples to triangulate with, methinks! C'mon, surely there's more than three people here who dabble in the occasional dash of divination?

Isn't there a Rune-caster out there? An entrail-reader? A dirt poker? Coin tosser? Anybody?
 
 
rising and revolving
23:40 / 13.12.04
Oh yeah, and 647 is a prime number. Stephenson would be proud!
 
 
FinderWolf
14:02 / 28.12.04
Any more thoughts/divinations/readings for 2005?
 
 
Tom Morris
21:06 / 28.12.04
I predict that a new political leader will be elected, a small military tussle will take place and there will be significant activity on the money market.

Method? Experience and cold hard scepticism of supernaturalism.
 
 
gravitybitch
04:06 / 29.12.04
Allright....

Pulling three cards, short and sweet, from Antero Alli's Vertical Oracle deck (not your standard Tarot):

Question: What to look for in the coming year?

1: Zero Point intimacy with void
Astrological correlation: The Ascendant
A fresh start. There's profound receptivity in this image, suggesting a highly impressionable state. Be careful what you wish for, you could get it. A circle of pearls; intuitive wisdom for clear seeing, a clarity born from surrender to the moment.
Perception of what is possible. Esoterically, this depicts "the uncarved block", the "illuminated gate of the void" of Zen. You are now ready to show more courage to be nothing, to be nobody but yourself. From this formless state emerges your most authentic direction. There is nothing to a void.

2: Time is Slipping Away the truth of impermanence
Astrological correlation: Neptune in Capricorn or in the Tenth House
Procrastination alert! Each passing moment never returns; every person you meet will someday die. Are you taking something or someone near and dear for granted? If so, it may not be too late to do something about it. An unspecified yet limited time on Earth is given to each of us for living, loving, and doing our work. Forget this basic truth and you risk lapsing into the underlying cultural trance of "life everlasting". Afterlife or not, the time of your life may be slipping away if you're not paying enough attention to this one.
(italics here are his, not mine)

3: Unsupervised the expanding space of an open mind
Astrological correlation: Jupiter in Sagittarius or in the Ninth House
If your mind has become bogged down from too many convincing assumptions, your own and others', it may be time to ask more questions. The sense of elevation and space in this card inspires a spirit of openness. Whether it's by meditating or mountain climbing, you're looking for ways to expand your outlook. When you can be free of biased judgement, commentary and opinions, your own and others', you can better assess the situation from a fresh perspective. This card symbolizes the positive value of unknowns and comes with its own mantra: "I don't know..." Repeat and rinse.

As hackneyed as it may sound, this does look like a time for reassessment, observation, and new beginnings.

If you like, I can ask the magick8ball a less leading question...
 
 
Joetheneophyte
07:35 / 29.12.04
No scientific or magickal methods used but I suspect that Rumsfeld will be sacked, he has become too much of a liability (mentioning Flight 93 was shot down was a big mistake on his part) Also the other powers that be need a sacrificial lamb and I suspect he will be it

Bush will have a major health scare, has anybody else noticed how bloated he looks around the face all of a sudden? Blair will also have health scares, which might allow Brown to take over the leadership or at least for a leadership battle to take place

Those stupid Palestinians will suicide themselves away from any meaningful negotiations with the Israeli's yet again (sarcasm intended)

Iraq will be gifted democracy but the bloodshed will continue as some ungrateful Iraqi's will object to either or any of the choices of candidate, the US allows


No methods used, just no hopeful expectations that anything will change on this corrupt marble of shit that is circling the sun

2005........Bloodshed, corruption and misery....same as this year really


Oh one piece of interesting divination......an Arab Astrologer has just announced he believes Bush will be assassinated this year
 
 
FinderWolf
12:43 / 29.12.04
Nice reading, isz -- as you said, even though many of themes in your reading might sound cliche for this time of year, I feel they're powerfully appropriate for me and when I've been working/reflecting on lately, moreso than usual.
 
 
Tamayyurt
13:24 / 29.12.04
predicting change is not exactly rocket science.

After Iszabelle's Zero Point "new beginnings" read I diecided to pull one card of out my deck just to see... out of all the cards I pulled Death, which we all know means change is coming.

Ch Ch Ch Chaaanges! Tiiiime to face the stange.

Also, I too agree with Finderwolf on the expanding space of an open mind perdiction. After a long year of wallowing in Samsara, I've gone back to daily meditation.
 
 
Skeleton Camera
22:17 / 30.12.04
The Paris Hilton meta-info-construct will stop existing.

According to Chinese astrology, the new year is the year of the wood rooster. Which is waiting for a dirty joke. I've been able to find quite little about this, aside from more personal astro-info re: being born under a wood rooster, which seems to make you contemplative, self-absorbed, artistic, etc... Don't know what to make of that for a year, though.

(Year of the monkey ending...and it certainly was characterized by a trickster presence, on a localized level. Anyone else?)

(And thirdlymore, does any of our astro-divina-predictacation affect, say, mass slaughter in the Sudan? Or is NeophyteJoe right in his closing statement?)
 
 
Boy in a Suitcase
22:20 / 30.12.04
Well I just went back and read my predictions for 2004, and they were mostly right...

For 2005, though, the mashed-potato pot says that we're going to hit a huge wave of fatigue brought on by the absurd and illogical state of the world that's going to just bottom out and turn into a static waveform (flattened Alphas) until we remember that we can't fault the world for being absurd as we (magicians) are the most absurd beings of all. (Nothing is True et al). The flip side of this, at the mundane level in America, is that the left is going to start transforming itself into a culturally ascendant force – much as the right did after it was shamed after Watergate in the 70s, later resulting in its full bloom into the nightmare we're currently living. It's all just sides of a coin of course, for the sarcastic snidesters, but 2005 is the time to enchant heavily through all means available to set the agenda and platforms that will last for the next 30 years if you're a political progressive.

While we hit what will seem on the mundane level as the total decay and crisis of the planet, at the magical level this will be seen to manifest as the terminal velocity point in our progress to the eschaton, which we have already crossed (if it was ever a distinct thing). Ongoing Metatronic inculcation means that anybody may now access the "2012" point ahead of time at ANY point with enough directed will and perception. It is NOW and it is what you wish it to be, this being the only justification that is or ever really was needed.

Everything's going to seem completely new, changed; magick itself is going to seem radically altered and for awhile it may seem like nothing previously learned and experienced of the subject any longer holds; this will also be seen of the "mundane" world as well as the language just... disappears; but don't worry, it's just your chance to make up you own version of this rapidly fragmenting and recoagulating multiverse, your own spaceship to realize your own Self with. Toss out the scaffolding and welcome on in to this ever-growing ever-shifting Reality Maze of Pandaemonaeon wherein one only and ever sees oneself, distorted or clearly as you will.

Now make some suitably witchy and spontaneous occult mudra with your left hand up in the air, say "I DO" and breathe out the creative sexual chaos of the underdark unmanifest.

Holy Atman Batman!
 
 
Skeleton Camera
01:55 / 31.12.04
THAT's what this rooster is all about.
 
 
Skeleton Camera
02:09 / 31.12.04
Okay, now that the threadrot's outta the system...

Divination trying to find a truth in the coming year? Or divination MAKING the coming year? The two perspectives are inseparable.

Begin to reduce division. Reduce it with the relations between chaos and order firmly in mind. Do not abandon boundaries, but learn to play with them.
Perhaps this is where the left will begin to go, running with Barack Obama's meme-force, turning the United States PURPLE. In so many ways.
The trickster emerges as the defining figure of the rushing 21st century - the only one stable enough to cope with necessary instability.
See Gogol Bordello for a sample.
National borders disintegrate in favor of non-localized networks. A trickster-figure, emerging in popular forms, is versatile enough to navigate not only the non-localization but the disintegration itself.
 
 
LVX23
06:18 / 31.12.04


Aye, now is the time for dream makin', plotting the course of the future from the ever-present. Manifest your thoughts into being. Whatever reality construct has the most minds fighting for it's realization will be the one to win the match of the millenia in the apocalypse showdown. When the shit passes through the event horizon make sure it's your gold coming out the other side. I predict that 2005 will be the Year of the Imagined shuttered past in rapid-fire celluloid synchro blurring the already thinning line between live and memorex. The system becomes simulacrum. Some dude just paid $30k for a piece of land in an online video game. Science fiction is now. All those books you've been reading about the future, well they were pointing to NOW. 2005 will pull back another veil. Watch the monkeys freak out as the edge gets closer.
 
 
Unconditional Love
07:25 / 31.12.04
the right hand wont know what the left hand is doing until both of them are shaking hands in the middle, and all the people with there hands already joined will dance in a circle as usual.

life,death,spirits.

TIME will keep you linear, on the straight path.

the crooked are timeless.

)
 
 
cusm
20:05 / 31.12.04
Gemetric divination for 2005:

Method: spelling out "two thousand four", taking straight numeric value of each letter minus the tens place, add up to gert value of 64. Words drawn from a dictionary sorted by gemetric value to draw from words valuing 64. Words in caps are the draw. Definitions in (). Alternate suggestion from the dictionary in []. Bits afterwards in quotes are results of Googlemancy, then my own conclusions.

BANANALAND -"Have Fun!"

This is a good sign. The last couple of years have really sucked for me. This may be a sign that things will be going good soon. Or at least, a good edict for how to approach this year.

MARLENA - "an acoustic work about Helen of Troy"

Beauty, and its adoration. A good positive followup to the draw above. One is warned to not start a giant flaming Greek war over it, however.

CALEDONIA - (Scottland) - "institution of 'first choice'"

(python)If its not Scottish, its CRAP!(/python)

Implications of getting what you want. Choose well, for dreams will become manifest and wishes will come true.

KUTCHA - [KRUTCH] - "best one-stop party"

The keys to good times continue, but with implications here of doing so as a means of support.

REECHY - (Smoky) - "Meaning and Definition of the Word"

Googlemancy just led me back to a dictionary page, suggesting that "smoky" was all the draw needed here.

Apparantly, the weed will be really good this year. At the very least, this draw was overwhelmingly positive. I have high hopes for the coming year.
 
 
Logos
15:37 / 01.01.05
The clear message I get so far is "fast".

Where 2004 felt like a sold block of packed earth and heavy lead, this is an icy mountain stream clear and clean, but also cold and astringent.

The year we wake up startled and blinking. "How fast are you, how dense?" A state of numbness interrupted.

Nahui Ollin. The Fifth world. The changing world. The rune of hail.
 
 
Skeleton Camera
17:45 / 01.01.05
I'd agree with this last - though not "fast" as in rushed but as in "constant." The stream metaphor. Nothing clogged or halting, as in 2004, but in a steady and fluid state of movement.
A galvanized response to Bush's reelection, for one. The aforementioned reconstitution of the American Democratic party. First dramatic emergences of a "hippie revival" in pop-culture, manifest as a new attention to communal life and a possible "back to the land" movement...
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
18:15 / 01.01.05
Where 2004 felt like a sold block of packed earth and heavy lead, this is an icy mountain stream clear and clean, but also cold and astringent.

Gahh, I really fucking hope so!
 
 
FinderWolf
12:59 / 03.01.05
Best wishes to all here on the 'Lith and your families and loved ones for 2005. May it be magickal and wonderful year of growth and positive change for everyone. We're well on the train to 2012 now!...
 
 
FinderWolf
13:17 / 05.01.05
I just read about something in the newspaper - a Cuban Santiera annual prediction from official Santiera priests called "Letra del Ano". It was a small blurb that said they predicted something like 'more military intervention, widespread disease and male impotence.' (and it didn't seem like a joke, although kind of sounds like one...) I'll have to look around online and see if I can find the full text...
 
 
FinderWolf
14:45 / 05.01.05
OK, Lithers, hang onto your hats, straight from the translation, it's the Letter of the Year from Santiera priests:

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31 of December of the 2000

PrediccionesLETRA Of YEAR 2000

Predictions of Ifá For Year 2001.
For Cuba And The World

To the priests of Ifá, to the brothers Oriates, Babaloshas, Iyaloshas and Iworos. To the religious town in general.

The past 31 of December of the 2000, met to 500 priests of Ifá in representation of the immense majority of the branches or families of Cuba, counting in addition on the endorsement to priests of Ifá of the following countries; Brazil, Belgium, Colombia, Costa Rica, Spain, E.U.A., Mexico, Italy, England, Panama, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, in the house temple located in Avenue 10 of October # 1509 and Josefina and Virtudes, Vivora, Municipality 10 of October, City of Havana, Cuba.

This ceremony was presided over by the priest of Ifá Guillermo Diago "Ogbe Weñe" and coat the letter the small priest but. We counted on the presence of a great amount of priests of Ifá of ample capacity and of recognized national and international prestige of whose analysis and valuations are transformed the directions that document exposes the present.

Odu (sign) Runs: Obe Weñe

Prophecy: Ire Ariku Oyale tesi lese Olófin (Benefit of health signs surely and on the foot of who has powers dignitaries -- legislator)

Recommendations: To request to Olófin aladimu - fished fresh and other ingredients

Divinity Runs: Oshún
Divinity of the maternity adored in Cuba and the district of Iyumu in Oshugbo, Nigeria.

Accompanying divinity: Elewa
Divinity that also is known like Eshu divinity the merchants, the ways, and proprietor of the Ashe or divine authority that Olodumare I create like dynamic principle of the accomplishment. It is adored in all the houses of the Cuban believers and in the city of Ketu in Nigeria where one says that he is native.

Flag: Yellow half and black half

Ebo (offering): 1 rooster, land of the 4 corners of the house, hair of I inform, land of manigua, water of sea, water of river, and demas ingredients.

Note: Each person must go to her respective padrinos in search of directions. We thank for the brothers Oriates, Babaloshas, Iyaloshas and Iworos the economic and moral endorsement that has offered us during these years.

The distribution of this document is gratuitous and this Commission is not responsible for the sale that people make other people's, with profit spirit.

Diseases that are to increase their indices:

Serious bony upheavals, fundamentally lumbago.
Intestinal, stomach and neurological upheavals
Uncontrol of the arterial pressure
Considerable increase of the respiratory upheavals. Tuberculosis.

Infarct cardiac.
Transitory madness.
Intestinal upheavals
Attention to the upheavals of lower abdomen.
Increase of the venereal diseases.

Events of social interest:

An Increase of lack of respect of the minors towards the greater ones, as much in the aspects religious as in its familiar relations
serious married upheavals by a remarkable increase of vices and the promiscuity.
Despair and precipitation in migratory subjects.
Lack of respect and I mistreat to the pair.
An increase of the robbery, is recommended to take precise measures and from security in the houses.
Good harvests are augured.
The children tend to leave the home to early age.
Mark premature oldness in people.
Threat war
Tropical storms, strong rains and landslides of houses.
To watch the contamination, of potable waters, reason why is recommended to boil the water.
Sign that notices blackmail danger
It is exhorted to the fulfillment of the labor obligations.
Sign that notices an increase in the individual persecution motivated by the illicit transfer.
New discoveries will arise from the properties of the green medicine obtaining with this great advances of medicas sciences.
To be careful in the formal formation of our children, being our conduct better example.
Lost mark of position, therefore we are strict reliable of our obligations.

Recommendations:

To avoid at all costs to get wet with rainwater.
To be meticulous in religious subjects.
Being organized in all the aspects of the life we will be able to leave the poverty and to obtain a remarkable increase of the wealth.
This sign recommends to give a drum of foundation to the Angel of Guarda.
To adore much to Oshún.
To receive ozain by the importance that has this deity for the Babalawo in this sign.
To give a rooster him to Orgun.
The Babalawo must consult what to do before traveling.
If the parents are alive he recommends to request the head to him with two white doves.
If the parents are passed away they must spiritually be taken care of (to see the Babalawo for those necessities).
To avoid to dye the hair.
One recommends the religious medical instructors to preserve its attributes to avoid losses or sustracción.
The people who have necessity to seat santo, that they fulfill his Angel of Guarda.
Taken care of with attacks traitorously, by the backs.
Kindness is paid with badness.
Taken care of much with fires in the home.
To diminish the consumption of drinks and drugs to avoid the physical and moral destruction that this creates.


Refranes of Signo When a needle falls to him to a leper makes an effort to return to seize of her.
A weaver does not settle down in the city because they congregate themselves in multitudes.
A well-known subject that is revealed cannot be considered like a secret.
A priest of Ifá cannot be the sufficiently wise thing to predict to the impossible Odu.
A priest of Ifá cannot be the sufficiently intelligent thing like predicting the result of the divination of Ibo.

Invitation

One invites all the priests of Ifá, Babaloshas, Iyaloshas and Iworos so that they attend target dresses or clearest possible to the drum of foundation dedicated to orishas you run - Oshún and Elewa in the House Temple located in Road of 10 of October no. 1509 between Gertrudis and Josefina, Viper. in order to request by the health, the stability and La Paz of I generate human.

Date: Saturday day 7 of January of 2001

Hour of 2pm to 6pm

Feliz and Prospero Year 2001 wishes the Organizing Commission him of the Letter of the Year.
 
 
Sekhmet
16:45 / 05.01.05
Was that translated using Babelfish?

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On drawing a single rune, I get Jera. The cycle of the year, the harvest. That which has been sown will be reaped. Change comes. Endings become beginnings become endings, the cycle moves. What orlog awaits depends on what has come before.
 
  

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