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David Blunkett. Sex Pest

 
  

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Whale... Whale... Fish!
11:07 / 02.12.04
This has really made my week. I was at the checkout in my local tescos when i noticed the lady in front of me had a daily star, saying something like "DNA test shows love child is Blunkett's". The other tabloids have really been giving him a bashing lately over his private life.

I dont care if its true or not but any bad press Blunkett's way is most certainly a good thing. I think the record last week had a headline to do with him now being an unlikely succesor to be prime minister. yay. YAY!.

Ah this takes away credibility for the bastards moral crusades. He's no better than the rest of us ^_^
 
 
Whale... Whale... Fish!
11:14 / 02.12.04
and once again that would be STTAB and not me...
 
 
sleazenation
11:32 / 02.12.04
The thing is, I'm not aware that Blunket has been going on a moral crusade - unlike say the Tories in the mid-90s who had specifically call for a return to Victorian family values.
 
 
Ganesh
11:55 / 02.12.04
I think the whole 'love child' thing is somewhat missing the point. Personally, I'm a lot more pissed off at the suggestion that Blunkett may have abused his ministerial position to fast-track the application of his lover's home-help - particularly as I'm aware of the Home Office taking a woefully long time to process the (IMHO, more 'deserving') applications of several of my patients...
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:14 / 02.12.04
Yes. Blunkett has focused on law and order, but he has never made sexual morality a key element of his presentation. Honestly, if having a relationship with a woman who already has a partner makes him unfit to do his job, I'm not sure how many of us should be handing in our resignations tomorrow.

However, what he seems to be doing at the moment - trying to force the lady in question to establish the paternity of her children *apparently against her wishes* is a bit more dubious. Establishing paternity is generally seen as a responsible action - it means the father can face up t his responsibilities for creating life. *But* what about when the children do not need any financial support, and the woman does not want to establish paternity, preferring instead to raise the child as a beloved member of a family unit? It's tricky, but not in itself resignation material. "Dirty sex pest" seems both an unfair and an inaccurate statement.

However, it is likely to shake loose some skeletons, such as this visa controversy, which may make his position untenable. In many ways, it is OK for politicians to have affairs, but very unwise for them to end them acrimoniously.

Pragmatically, I want Blunkett out. I think he's a danger to civil rights in Britain, and have hopes that his successor might(_might_) be a bit less gung-ho and right-wing. If it has to be because of lurid personal details, that is unfortunate but maybe the result is worth it - like assassination (see Head Shop thread), it's hard to tell the consequences. If actual wrongdoing comes to light during the prying, then he should be held accountable for that wrongdoing; you cannot be seen use your position to do favours for your wife, lover or friends and still be a disinterested public servant.

Honestly, though? I think he may well brazen it out. This government in its own way is becoming as venal and shameless as the pre-Back to Basics Tories. I think it comes of a feeling of invulnerability brought on by a long time in office...
 
 
solid~liquid onwards
14:33 / 02.12.04
Ok, perhaps crusade is a bit of a strong term to use. in scotland there was the ordeal about section 28 while blunkett was education minister. about 98 was when all the fuss was going on, i think, though the tories passed it years before. At some point during Blunkett's stint as educational minister he said something about making "marriage pride" prominent in new legislation. Also there is the money and morals curriculim
("helping you to teach honesty integrity and social responsibility"). “The Money & Morals Curriculum is a really good step forward… if we can engage students in this debate it will make the world a better place” - David Blunkett MP, Home Secretary. www.moneyandmorals.org

Morals are a set of rules that you live by. Blunkett's making the rules that were meant to live by. After all, thats his job.

That was just me clutching at straws a bit, his abuse of power and his scary proposals and laws designed to increase order at the expense of liberty is the real issue. Anything that will undermine Blunkett is celebrated by my person in the form of a happy dance. Blunkets honesty and morals are issues

(sorry whales, i always forget to check whos signed in before i post... why am i typing this while your sitting 3 metres away?)
 
 
sleazenation
15:10 / 02.12.04
I think there are a growing number of people who wish to see Blunkett out of his job through any means. While there is a case to answer over the question of to what extent Blunket's influence effected his ex-lover's nanny's visa application I, like Haus, suspect he will be cleared of any wrong-doing on this charge, cheifly by virtue of having chosen the criteria under which he will be investigated himself.

However, if there is a drip, drip, drip effect of constant media coverage of Blunket's involvement in a paternity battle with an ex-lover and her husband, a situation which is now public knowledge, It will become incresingly difficult for Blunkett to perform his ministerial duties effectively as the first item at any press conference he chairs will inevitablely be about the latest revelations about what i shall refer to as his love life.

In such circumstances I can see a situation where Tony Blair will have little option but to ask for his resignation in order to regain control of the political agenda...

One of the people best place to keep leaking potentially damaging information about Blunket's 'love life' is the husband of his ex-lover who will continue to be motivated to brief against Blunket as long as Blunket continues to pursue forcing his ex-lover's child to take a paternity test.

Who thought Blunket would end up being a poster boy for fathers 4 justice?
 
 
_Boboss
15:18 / 02.12.04
more like a poster-child for 'slighted teenagers 4 moodiness' really

they're mine, mine i tell you!

well, she doesn't think they are david. not, erm, not doing this out of vengeance are you?

spectator editorial today, boris dropping bombs from the backbenches, comes right out and points the finger straight at blunkett for leaking the news to the murdochs in the first place. details over at the guardian, you need to register to read the spectator piece itself. would going to the tabloids be reason to demand resignation? that's not doing his best to keep his private and public life separate, which he so stringently claims to wish to do.

whether anyone else would be sacked for what he's done isn't important right now - many norms may be temporarily suspended during the battle against fascism.
 
 
Nobody's girl
17:07 / 02.12.04
Blunkett's policies will invade my privacy. So let him have his privacy invaded, see how he likes it.
 
 
_Boboss
08:33 / 03.12.04
o cors, when i posted that yesterday i forgot that blunkies ex is the publisher of the spectator, boris' boss. and HER boss is andrew neil off the telly. general consensus on the poly shows last night was 'gone by christmas'. good. (i hope) there's literally no-one else in the parliamentary labour party who're as maggieshit tory as davey blunko, so a whole load of dodgy police-state style bills will find themselves without the backing of much political stomach.
 
 
_pin
10:35 / 03.12.04
I'm still really hating myself that my first reaction to headlines about this is to wish him luck; partly because this shouldn't be a sackable offence (even if he was married, it wouldn't be), and partly because I have this odd affection for the Labour government, and seem ot wish them to stay and, and if Blunkett was to go, they'd lose and big Tory-beating stick.

I have no doubt much of this is because I don't really feel directly under threat from him, and my anti-ID card stance is largely from the fact that I don't care, but I tend to agree with the people who dont like them, and I don't live anytwhere big and metropolitan, and so the measures he's introducing just seem to be passing me by.

I do promise, however, to try harder in future to hate him more.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:21 / 03.12.04
I'm in two minds on this one.

Firstly, and let me get this absolutely fucking clear, I would love to see him out, for ANY reason available.

Secondly, however, it kind of depresses me that we as a country HAVEN@T managed to (or wanted to) get rid of him purely on the grounds that he's a nasty, illiberal and, dare I say it? Yes I do- xenophobic piece of shit whose very presence in a so-called Labour government has always baffled me.

He has a nice dog, though.
 
 
Tom Morris
18:55 / 07.12.04
He may not be a 'sex pest', but I'm certainly having my fill of schaudenfreude. He wanted to keep this hushed up, but since he has nothing to hide, he has nothing to fear (funny how nobody who uses this tired idiotism has refused my offer to have their bank statements delivered in postcard form).

It's despicable. If Blunkett decided to legislate a eugenics programme in to law, we'd find it in size 9 point on page 34. But if he has the audacity to have sex with somebody and have a kid, it's on every front page for about three weeks. The media has got it's priorities damn straight.
 
 
Jester
21:27 / 10.12.04
Hmm.. I agree with the views expressed that it would be great if Blunkett was forced to resign, and, well, if it has to be for a stupid sex/visa scandal then so be it.

I wouldn't agree that if he goes, Labour would necessarily loose the next election (a prospect that I am increasingly, reluctantly, terrified of). The real problem would be, who would they replace him with? Potential, liberal, Home Secretaries are not lining up around the block for the job, and they could end up with someone even more hard line.
 
 
sleazenation
23:03 / 10.12.04
But then again Blair does seem to be running very short of prominant talented allies to promote. I don't think Blunkett going (if that does indeed happen) would have any significant impact on the election- Labour will still win - the only question is how much their majority will be erroded and who will pick up the most disgruntled voters - the tories or the Lib Dems. No, the real challenge Blair would face is finding a credible Blairite successor, someone who would not boost Gordon Brown's own aspirations of becoming the next PM...
 
 
sleazenation
15:57 / 15.12.04
Breaking news - Bluckett is apparently going to resign.
 
 
sleazenation
15:58 / 15.12.04
Breaking news - Bluckett is apparently going to resign.
 
 
Elegant Mess
16:14 / 15.12.04
David Blunkett has quit as home secretary following a string of newspaper allegations he fast-tracked a visa for his ex-lover's nanny.

So... who's going to replace him?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
16:44 / 15.12.04
Look can we just take a moment here and... YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, FUCKING YES!!!!! I HATE YOU DAVID BLUNKETT, I HOPE YOU GET GLUED TO THE BACK BENCHES.

Okay, sorry about that. Alan Milburn?
 
 
Bed Head
17:01 / 15.12.04
I have to admit, I was rather hoping he’d stumble on for a few more weeks and take the ID cards down with him. Poll-tax style. But, yeah, bloody good luck to Blair finding someone else loony enough to try and push them through. haha! As if. Something the party doesn’t want, something the likely next leader doesn’t want, something that’s going to cost an absolute fortune even though it won’t actually work... Hmm. I’m stumped. Hewett?

*wanders off to check the odds*
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
17:11 / 15.12.04
Yeah, Alan Milburn, surely?
 
 
Bed Head
17:13 / 15.12.04
Oooh, someone tells me, apparently C4 news has tipped Charles Clarke to take over. He’s pretty thick. Could this get better?
 
 
Bed Head
17:23 / 15.12.04
Fie, Milburn. Might as well ask Mandelson, he’s about as popular with the PLP. Tony’s going to have to find someone who can sell ID cards to an unconvinced Labour party, and I don’t think Milburn could do that. Brown could even use it to rally against the whole Blair agenda.

Fuck, yeah. Milburn. Brilliant idea. Please let it be Milburn.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
19:01 / 15.12.04
And how will the loss of another faithful Blairite puppy affect the Brown / Blair balance, I wonder? The Home Office is a big job and carries a lot of clout. It must be like the Court of the Borgias in the upper echelons of the New Labour party at the moment.
 
 
sleazenation
19:36 / 15.12.04
I must admit that the news bought a whoop of joy to my cold black heart - not as big the the glorious cheer that leaped from my lips when Jeffrey Archer was forced to pull out of the race for the Londn Mayor (and later convicted of perjury), but still - probably still - probably a move that has lost me quite a lot of Kama.

Still, I think it's a good time to take a reality check here - ID cards are still a key plank of government policy and Blunkett's departure has not changed that - He was not forced to resign over miss-selling ID cards as an anti-terror measure - he wasn't even forced to resign over abusing his position as a minister - it wasn't even because he had affairs with married women - he was forced to resign because his name kept making the front pages.

It seems likely that one of the main sources for all these anti-Blunkett stories is the ex-lover the now-ex-minister is currently pursuing through the courts as he seeks to proove his paternity claim on her son...

The lesson would seem to be if you are a minister and have an affair with a married women - make sure it ends ammicablely...
 
 
Linus Dunce
20:14 / 15.12.04
Coincidence?
 
 
Elegant Mess
21:36 / 15.12.04
Annnnnd Charles Clark is in.

Blair's parting message to Blunkett? "You leave government with your integrity intact and your achievements acknowledged by all. You are a force for good in British politics."

Um, yeah...

I have to agree with sleaze, though; I'd be extremely surprised if this is going to make ID cards any less of an issue. According to the BBC's coverage of his appointment, Clark "said he held similar views to his predecessor [...] and he strongly believed in the controversial plans for national identity cards."

Dammit.
 
 
sleazenation
21:57 / 15.12.04
I should probably add that I doubt we have heard the last of David Blunkett... once his paternity case is settled with access granted depending on the outcome I can see him serving again in a cabinet position... But Gordon Brown must be quietly pleased that a potential rival for the eventual vacancy of party leader appears to have fallen by the way side...
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
08:25 / 16.12.04
I would suggest that Christmas is a time for you to FaxYourMP and make reference to Blunkett's staggering lack of judgement when it comes to cabinet colleagues and the resources at STAND and Spyblog to explain why they are a waste of time and money. If you have a Tory you could, for extra points, print out that ID Cards go against what Conservatives are supposed to believe in and that while Michael Howard might support the idea he is currently no more popular than Iain Duncan-Smith was last year when the Tory party chucked him.
 
 
_Boboss
09:12 / 16.12.04
i don't think blunkett ever mooted himself as a potential candidate for PM, too much of his 'appeal' was in the common man shit.

brown will be happy though because heart attack clarke moving to the home office leaves a vacancy at education that one of his favourite ladies (name escapes me) looks likeliest for.
 
 
sleazenation
09:35 / 16.12.04
Ruth Kelly...the name you are looking for.

And I don't necessarily think Blunkett was angling for the top job as much as he could easily be embraced by those within the labour party who are looking for a viable alternative to Brown as a post-Blair leader...
 
 
Ganesh
10:38 / 16.12.04
I think it's interesting that Blunkett should fall on his sword a day or so after New Labour's other Authentic Working Class Man Of The People, Prescott, finally returned fire over the comments in Blunkett's biography.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:24 / 16.12.04
Obviously it's fantastic news that Blunkett has gone, but I hope I am not alone in feeling a degree of sadness, too: sadness that he has been replaced by another Blairite bully-boy who will push on with ID cards, evil asylum policies, etc; sadness that Clarke has in turn been replaced by a woman described as "one of the breed of younger politicians that takes a consciously strong moral line on issues such as parenting and antisocial behaviour" (ie, the inevitable slide of Labout under Blair into religiosity and 'family values' continues). Most of all I feel sadness that Blunkett will in all likelihood never be called to account for the suffering he has caused, or the contempt that he has shown for the victims of his own and his colleagues' policies.

In an otherwise insightful piece in the Guardian today, Roy Hattesley talks about "the sympathy which all decent people feel", or rather should feel, for Blunkett. Leaving aside the appeal to the concept of 'decent people' (which is always reactionary), I would say that it is vitally important that should we feel any sympathetic sentiment creeping in with regards to Blunkett's emotional distress and loss of career, we harden out hearts to that emotion, and remember instead the victims of his policies and their much more considerable suffering. He is a mentally unbalanced man, it's true, and he does need help: but at least he has now been removed from a position in which he could continue to harm others.
 
 
diz
13:19 / 16.12.04
Warren Ellis on the Blunkett resignation:

"According to the BBC news alert, David Blunkett is resigning as Home Secretary. This is a blind man who walked out of a Howard Barker play because of a nude scene on stage. He is, as you might imagine, a quite staggering wanker who talks shit about his colleagues in public and is currently crapping over an ex-girlfriend who returned to her husband by declaiming that her new pregnancy is his doing. Like all posturing scumbags, he'd rather quit than have to defend himself against even a pathetic microscandal over speeding up a visa, because he understands, deep down, that he is a Liar and an Animal and a Prick.

This is the only thing that has made me smile today.

-- W"
 
 
Elegant Mess
14:04 / 16.12.04
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss:

The new home secretary, Charles Clarke, today rejected calls to reconsider plans for ID cards after Labour backbenchers suggested the departure of David Blunkett yesterday should prompt a rethink.
 
  

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