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Ganesh
17:49 / 01.12.04
I'm one of those people who whinges and moans about shoddy service but, when it comes down to it, can rarely be arsed to make a formal written complaint. At the moment, I'm incredibly pissed off with SMS Special Mail Services, to the extent that I can be bothered - and I'm wondering what's the most effective way to complain.

Here's the situation: I'm awaiting delivery of a new bank card; until it arrives, I can't access my salary, and am living off a high-interest credit card and Xoc. SMS will commit only to "any time between 8am and 6pm", delivery-wise, which means I can't get it delivered to my workplace (opens at 9am, closes at 5). I've therefore taken an unpaid day off to sit in the house and wait for their courier. Having had bad experiences with delivery-men in the past, I've assured SMS that yes, I am in, and if the buzzer isn't answered, to call me on my mobile number. Just to be on the safe side, I put a 'for SMS delivery' note on the door, telling him which buzzer to press.

And I've stayed in all day, careful not to invoke Sod's Law even by nipping out to the local shop. I've not put any music on, and I've kept the TV volume low, just in case I don't hear the buzzer. My 'phone's been charging, and has never been out of my sight.

4pm, nothing. I 'phone SMS to confirm that yes, it's definitely today it's being delivered. Yes, the delivery man's still on their computer as 'out'; it'll definitely get there before 6.

6pm, nothing. I 'phone SMS to ask what's happened. They say they'll 'phone me back in 10 minutes.

6.20pm, nothing. I 'phone them back, and ask again what's happened. The guy on the other end takes my details and reference number and says, "the next earliest delivery day is Friday". I explode. He points out, defensively, that the courier is very busy and has many deliveries to make. I point out that I'm also very busy, and have just wasted an entire day. He tells me the courier's still 'out' and might arrive by 7. I ask for details of the complaints procedure.

7pm, nothing. I 'phone back to ask whether the courier's returned with my card, or whether he might appear at some point this evening. They don't know; he's still 'out' and not answering his 'phone (at least they've tried to contact him). I ask them to deliver my card to the bank; I can pick it up there on Friday - assuming the fucking courier brings it back to their office in time.

Xoc had similar experiences the times he's tried to have bank cards delivered. I don't think we're abnormally unlucky, and can only suppose SMS is fucking other people around too.

What's the best way to go about this? It doesn't seem as if individuals are at fault, particularly (with the possible exception of the nameless courier). I'm more pissed off with the way I've been forced to make major changes to my own routine in order to accommodate their deeply unhelpful delivery policy - and they've still failed to come up with the goods.

Any inside advice on how best to target my complaint?
 
 
sleazenation
20:46 / 01.12.04
My advice is to get your card delivered to the branch of your bank that is closest to your place of work and collect it at around 4pm in the afternoon if you are able to.
 
 
Nobody's girl
21:05 / 01.12.04
Huh. We've recently had similar problems with SMS at our flat. My flatmate was waiting for a delivery and it was undelivered 3 times. One of those times my partner was in the house and the delivery man actually got in our stair, walked up to our door and posted the "you weren't in" postcard without buzzing the buzzer or knocking on the door.

Maybe they get paid more for every failed delivery or something?

I'm not sure how to complain. Try phoning them and yell at a manager then if you still don't get any result ask them for the name and address of their ombudsman.
 
 
Ganesh
21:06 / 01.12.04
That's what I've ended up doing, Sleaze. I still want to lodge a complaint about today's shitty service, though.
 
 
ibis the being
21:06 / 01.12.04
Is SMS a private company or government run? Do you have anything like the Better Business Bureau over there, where you can report bad service?
 
 
■
21:52 / 01.12.04
No, we have a country called India that we screwed over and that we thought we'd left alone but is now coming back to bite us on the arse by tying up our telecoms system.
What to do? Hmm.
Guardian Capital Letters might be a start. They're getting a bit low on new stories to champion if this week's issue is anything to go by.
Handwritten (or at least printed) letters to someone in charge of a company tend to get very fast results in any business. It's like the immune system of corporations has had to deal with so few of them in the past few years that they trigger a full-on defensive "sort it out and get that thing out of here" mode. Not to mention that it gives bosses something to do because it makes them feel important and gives them an excuse to throw their weight around. Worth a try.
 
 
Olulabelle
22:19 / 01.12.04
I rock at complaining. I feel completely qualified to give you advice, Ganesh.

So far, as a result of complaining I've had:

1 pair of caterpillar boots.

£80 from Sainsbury's.
£80 from Tesco.
£80 from Asda.
£80 from Safeway.
(I was on a roll as a skint student, don't ask).

A new Brabantia bin lid.

About £360 and counting refunded in bank charges of various descriptions.

2 days worth of my daily rate.
(Charged because my 'valuable time' was 'wasted'.)

3 refunds on delivery charges.

Free internet access for 6 months.


What else?

A lot of free fruit pastilles.

A whole box of Little Chef lollies.
(Well they're lovely, and they didn't have any when I went, and I ate all my dinner.)

A replacement printer front. (Eventually, after 6 months of repeated letter writing and phoning).

£30 in vouchers from Game. (Which wasn't for complaining actually, it was for delighting in the fact that they didn't make me feel thick when I went to buy my son a Playstation).

A beautiful bunch of flowers. (Also for complimenting a company on their service.)

2 free BA flights.

1 free Easyjet flight.


(God, this makes me sound AWFUL!)

AND...

A personal welcome onto a train, whereupon I was then escorted to two free seats in first class and given a bottle of champagne, courtesy of Richard Branson. (This is my best scoop so far and was merely the result of asking him to clean the windows next to seat 34 and 35 of the carriage of the train I was due to be travelling on, on account of the fact that I was going a long way on a journey I had never been on before and I wished to be able to see the beautiful scenery.)

So. My advice is firstly, always, always write a proper letter and never call or email.

Secondly, go to the top, but not quite the top. Look on the website or ring up and find out the name of the secretary to the Managing Director of the company you are writing to. Then write to her (it's almost always her) personally, asking her to pass on your complaint to the MD. These are powerful women and they make the decision about whether the 'man in charge' gets to see your letter or not.

Be nice, but gutted. Try to be funny at least once. Don't rail or rant, just explain how disappointed you are because up till now you've always had excellent service (even if this isn't true).

Never write to Customer Services, they are trained to fob you off.

if you don't get a reply that you find acceptable, write back and say why. If you've spent time waiting in, as you have, send an invoice for your time explaining that your time is as valuable as theirs and that as their reply was unsatisfactory you have no choice but to charge them for your wasted day. (I have done this, and so did my father. It works.)

And lastly, don't be fobbed off with an 'I'm sorry but it can't be helped' letter. If you keep on at them eventually they'll respond in a way that satisfies you just to make you go away.

But in my experience approaching the secretary almost always works first time, because she passes your letter on, the MD gets shirty with whomever fucked up and the whole problem gets resolved really quickly.
 
 
Ganesh
22:22 / 01.12.04
Wow! I prostrate myself in grateful awe of your whinge-fu!
 
 
Ganesh
22:39 / 01.12.04
One question, though, Olulabelle: should the "proper letter" be printed or handwritten? I'm thinking the latter, with decent stationery, but that might be a touch OTT...
 
 
■
22:42 / 01.12.04
I bow to the 'Belle... deeply.
Now I think about it, one of the best results I ever had was with the Royal Bank who had just stiffed me £60 for their inability to clear a cash deposit fast enough to let me use it (a week later) on my Switch card. Bit snitty letter followed by a full refund.
A month later I entered a (branch-based) competition where I pointed out the best way to keep students happy (and out of debt) was to put fivers back into cash machines. Fuckers gave me a laptop! Not saying the evets were linked, but:
Whooohoooo!
 
 
Olulabelle
22:51 / 01.12.04
I always print mine, but I use a decent personal headed template which I've created.

Handwritten letters are annoying since people's handwriting is often hard to read. You don't want them to be squinting over it, trying to work out whether you've written 'walk' or 'wank'. (I know this for a fact since I've spent the last 2 months reading 800 letters from the public. It is hard work and you end up having to really try to not just scan what people say just because it's not typed.)

Can I just point out here that although I sound like a mad serial complainer, I do this because I actually truly believe in the rights of the consumer, and unfortunately not many people can be bothered to pull companies up these days. That's why we get such shoddy service. Businesses know the risk of complaint is low and so when they risk assess (which they do) they can see they lose less money by paying out on the odd complaint than by making sure service is as it should be in the first place.

The more we complain when something isn't as advertised, the more companies become risk averse and the better service we get. It works both ways too. If you compliment companies when service is good it gets fed down through the company to all the staff, they feel good and care more and everyone gets better service, therefore less complaints are made and everyone is happy.

Ha. I should work for Watchdog.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
23:01 / 01.12.04
If only so we could organise a stealth hit on Nicky Campbell.
 
 
Olulabelle
23:13 / 01.12.04
I would happily go to prison for the momentary yet somehow infinite joy of having hit Nicky Campbell.

We don't need stealth, we just need to rush the set.
 
 
grant
03:53 / 02.12.04
Olulabelle's pretty much got it covered. I can add two things to think about.

1. The best complainer I know is an executive for a firm that imports cigars. Whenever she *really* complains, she sends a package of fancy cigars with the letter, which includes the words, "This is how we do business in *my* company." It's very much being the generous, kindly, firm parent, trying to correct the ill-thought-through short-sightedness of the wayward (but well-meaning) fuckheads. I think she's actually gotten free cruises this way, and I know she's gotten free hotel rooms.

(1a. I never actually met Richard Branson, but I was on one of the first Virgin Atlantic flights, back when they were dirt cheap and didn't have first class, and he was *on the plane* wandering the aisles and asking people how they were enjoying the flight. I've been impressed with him ever since.)

2. Who hires the courier, you or the bank? An effective complaint might not be aimed at the courier service at all, if you're not *really* their customer. It might be aimed at the Purchasing Director or whoever at the bank, who goes on to hire SMS to deliver the bank cards. Whoever pays their salary. (Also, short-sightedly, I can't see how SMS might make amends to you, but your bank can certainly make your life a little easier in some real, tangible ways.)
 
 
Loomis
07:44 / 02.12.04
I'd definitely print the letter. Hand-written = cranky old person who they can happily ignore.

I've never been much of a complainer (to companies), but recently we hired a small firm to send a handyman round to do some jobs in the house and he fucked up so badly that we felt we couldn't let it go. So Ariadne wrote a letter (and sent it by email as well just to make sure), and they replied immediately. It turned out that this guy had been fucking up jobs all week and they had to "let him go". They sent a guy round fixing all those jobs and also threw in a couple of free hours.

I'd say a lot of that had to do with them being a small (and newly launched) company who couldn't afford the bad press. But still, if we (and the other people) hadn't complained about this joker then he'd still be out there fucking up people's flats, and fucking up the business of the poor guy who hired him.

Another small bit of advice, which I think helped our letter: be specific. List evertying like you did in your first post. Every call, every answer you were given, and the specific amount of time you waited, how much money you would have earned, etc.
 
 
mkt
08:18 / 02.12.04
I'm one of the people in customer services trying to fob you off (it says here), and I would have to agree with most of what has been said so far. I would particularly agree with olulabelle that an initial complaint should be in writing, and ideally printed. Nothing says "mad person - do not take seriously" like slightly odd handwriting. And "odd" is a fairly subjective term. That's a risk you don't want to take.
Be polite. Even when you are annoyed, be very careful not to come across as patronising or rude - snide remarks to the person who is attempting to resolve the matter ensure that your complaint is dealt with with the bare minimum of care and helpfulness. Being reasonable goes a very long way.
As Loomis suggests, be as detailed as possible. List list list. And take the name of anyone you speak to on the phone - call centres are huge. When customers say that they spoke to "a man - maybe Ben?" last week, you can guarantee that you will never find out what really happened.
Finally, say what you want. So many customers seem to contact customer services just to vent some rage, with no idea of what might make them happier. While some companies are proactive and offer vouchers, etc, many only apologise in these cases. Specifically state what you would consider to be a reasonable response or form of compensation - you might not get it, but it provides a point from which to negotiate and sends a clear message that an apology will not be enough.
Good luck.
 
 
■
09:18 / 02.12.04
And take the name of anyone you speak to on the phone
In addition timestamp your notes so they can track back the conversations. Friends who used to work in call centres say to do this, so they must know what they're talking about.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
09:26 / 02.12.04
If not actually compaining, great mileage can be gleaned from just writing absurdly nose-out-of-joint letters to offending companies, for inclusion on some wall somewhere.

I once had to fork out hundreds of quid for a gas bill that wasn't mine after occupying a new flat and failing to read the meter...It was passed on to a solicitor's firm called Marsden Huck.

After despatching the cheque, I couldn't resist pointing out that their company name was a pefect anagram of "Sore Clitoris and Schmuck"

But they didn't give me anything free.
 
 
haus of fraser
09:50 / 02.12.04
Ganesh- I think most points have been covered but one last thing (if not too late!) send special delivery this way the letter gets there the next day and there is a record of you posting it.

and a couple more pointers...
You may also find you are entitled to compensation- what exactly do SMS guarentee? check their policies- also contact your bank/sender and let them know what has happened (with a letter)- suggest to them a different service and enclose a copy of your bank letter to the SMS bod you are complaining to - this will hurt!

Good luck
 
 
mkt
10:27 / 02.12.04
Re: Special Delivery. Don't bother if it's just correspondence. Send it Recorded Delivery. It'll save you three whole pounds.
 
 
haus of fraser
10:40 / 02.12.04
yup- sorry special is good if you want to get it there fast (next day guarantee- if they don't deliver they owe you compensation!!!)
 
 
NotBlue
19:29 / 02.12.04
Also, after you have asked for their name ask "and your managers name is...?" (and/or department).

Nothing motivates in that environment like bringing shit directly on the guy who is in charge of your overtime, and will land on yopu for it.
 
 
Brigade du jour
20:08 / 02.12.04
I've kind of missed the boat with this, but I just wanted to assure Ganesh that yes, SMS is fucking other people over.

I have recently wasted two whole days waiting for deliveries. I think what I'll do is warn my bank (for it is they who are foolish enough to enlist their inadequate Services) not to use them anymore because they're a bit shit.
 
 
haus of fraser
12:52 / 06.12.04
Ganesh,
How did you get on?
did you complain/ get the package etc? Are you getting any kind of apology- or more to the point, cash gifts to reimburse you for your wasted day?

Do tell...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:11 / 06.12.04
Only just noticed this thread- and it's uncanny. SMS? Check.

Last week (Tuesday) both myself and mono received cards through the door saying they'd tried to deliver stuff while we were out. So I phoned them, got their automated thingy and got them to deliver it again on Wednesday. Stayed awake most of Wednesday (having worked a night shift on Tuesday and preparatory to working another on Wednesday night)... nothing. Thursday, while I'm out in the morning, another two cards arrive saying they've tried to deliver stuff. Fucking great. Phoned AGAIN; this time I actually spoke to a real person, who said they had no record of a delivery being booked for Wednesday. Arse.

So... the long and the short of it is, mono's bank card's been cancelled (for a new one is what they were trying to deliver), the new one's also been cancelled "presumed lost"; she now has no bank card for the next 7-10 days. And I have to stay in all day tomorrow (the first day they could rearrange a delivery) for my credit card. As I'm going to fucking Iceland on Thursday, it would be kind of handy if it actually arrived.
Added to which, the staying in all day tomorrow thing kind of fucks up the ORIGINAL plan I had... which was to go to the Post Office to collect ANOTHER package which THEY apparently couldn't deliver "because nobody was in". Bollocks. I HEARD the fucking postie. He didn't even ring the bell. And I've been to the Post Office every day since, and they don't have it, and keep telling me to come back tomorrow.
Fuck registered mail. Fuck SMS. I'd personallt trust a credit-card stealing junkie MORE than I'd trust them right now.

Guess that wasn't much help, but hey! Misery loves company, right? Just thought I'd let you know it's not just you they're dicking around.
 
 
Papess
12:59 / 07.12.04
I recently have had an experience at a very posh steakhouse, where, after having waited way too long at the bar for service, I finally got to ask the bartender for a Grey Goose martini. Instead, I was given Grey Goose vodka in a martini glass. I asked what was wrong with my martini, there was something wrong with the vermouth content. The bartender said that there was none and that was the way the owner wanted the martinis made. I asked her if he was paying for it then.

I don't like to complain formally about every little petty incident of less than stellar service, but in this case, I am going to. The restaurant is an exceptionally expensive restaurant, filled with corporate "boy's club" types, who frequent the place. I am not a regular patron as it is in a completely different city than I live in (and way over my means to patronize often!). I think the bartender was banking on my being unacquainted with the place (I have only been there twice before) in order to intimidate me with the whole the-boss-wants-it-this-way excuse. The cost of eating there is just obscene enough without having to deal with obscene attitudes.

Otherwise though, I wouldn't just complain about anything at all in a formal manner even if something does piss me off. People get fired, even if they have families to support and school to put themselves through, etc... Sometimes, just firmly but politely addressing the person themself who has caused an inconvenience is good enough, and they will correct themself. In the case of dealing with corporations, I do try and weigh in mind if it is really worth it, or am I putting someone's livelihood at risk due to my own pettiness. I mean, is it really worth it? Things go wrong all the time. I should be understanding enough to deal with that. If it happens all the time, I am more likely to just change service rather than risk getting someone fired, or simply blamed and scapegoated for the services problems. Eventually, if they keep up the same shoddy service, they won't be in business anyway.

Equally, I find formally giving praise when it's due is quite rewarding for everyone.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:44 / 07.12.04
FUCK SMS!!! After a day spent entirely indoors, (apart from a drastically early morning so I could buy cigarettes for the day), my credit card STILL didn't turn up.
I phoned them.
Apparently the courier (who, and I checked, was the same one ALL THREE TIMES) couldn't find the address this time. And has now flagged it up as a "problem address", despite having found it TWICE last week without a problem. Which means the responsibility is now on ME to call the credit card company, get THEM to fax SMS confirming the address, etc.
Apparently I could get it delivered to my work address. Which would be fine, except for the fact that THERE'S NOBODY THERE DURING THE DAY. I WORK NIGHTS, FUCKSTICKS.
What with the fact that I'm gonna be out of the country for a few days as of Thursday (which is why I applied for the fucking thing in the first place), I now have no choice but to get them to deliver it next Tuesday (when, yet again, I'll be having to stay awake for a day between nightshifts). Fuckers.

Ganesh, PLEASE let us know how you get on with your complaining, cos I'm gonna be doing the exact same thing.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
 
 
Looby
11:56 / 08.12.04
Why are people unpleasant to the elderly? My lovely, 90 year old grandma went to the post office last week to claim her free TV license. She had to bring ID with her, and the letter listed the acceptable items - passport, gas bill, bus pass, credit card etc. So, she walked to the post office half a mile away with her bus pass and credit card. When she got there they asked what year she was born in and she told them. They then went away and conferred for a couple of minutes, then came back and asked her how old she was so she had to announce her age infront of the whole place. After all this, they tell her that she needed ID with her DOB on it. When she got home she called my mother in floods of tears, saying that she must be losing her mind because she was sure that she'd understood the letter, but clearly not etc. etc. She'd done everything that the letter asked of her, and since she got a free license last year it's unlikely that she's got any younger. WHY did they do this to her the arseholes? My mother has written a stinking letter to them, and my father phoned and gave them a bollocking. By way of explanation he was told it was obviously a 'training problem'. You have to be 75 for a free license and I can't imagine that anyone could think she was younger than that! Bastards.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
13:03 / 08.12.04
In your instance, if you haven't already issued a complaint, to write to them and cc the bank (branch and central office) and the OFT. Explain clearly in detail the events, detail exactly how this inconveniences you and then ask for a full copy of their terms of service. A computer printed letter, handsigned, conveys a message of organised and educated, i.e. someone inclined to cause trouble.

Unfortunately you are not the customer for SMS, the bank is, and they are unlikely to feel any responsibility towards you. However they will want to be seen to be doing something infront of their customers and watchdogs.

Don't send the letter to the MD, send it to the Director of Customer Services. The MD, or their secretary, will send it there in the first place and may chose to poison the waters first. They have chosen this person to oversee these things in the first place and they are more likely to respect direct contact than being put under the scrutiny of their boss. If they think they can tie this one up quckly, quietly and without too much expense they will and are more likely to jump to a higher level if you reject a nothing offer.
 
 
Papess
15:28 / 08.12.04
Ganesh, I certainly did not mean to trivialize your experience, (although I know little about the Royal Mail service) I do think that when a service is so shoddy that it puts peoples' lives or livelihoods in jeopardy, there should definately be a formal compliant made. In your case Ganesh, I am imagining that many lives are put on hold, and possibly in danger, given your occupation.

You have most likely already done something regarding this, but just in case, or for others, the Royal Mail's terms and conditions are here, as Imminent Danger has suggested. I am certain it is not an entirely complete statement, however, just a summary. It says you have to go to a post office branch for the completed form.

In Looby's case, that is simply humiliating and unnecessary legwork for an elderly woman. You may want to check here for over 74 and 75 free TV licensing. The people at the post office seem to be a bit rude, at the least, but I think that is policy. (The DOB issue, not being rude...hehe)

Here in Canada, there is a funny euphamism for "crazy". It is going postal, which rather says it all about postal services.


I had a terrible experience however, on one of the bus lines where I live, that had definately put my life in danger, and to some degree, my livelihood. I was off to work and decided to save a few dollars by learning how to take the bus service. I got on the bus I thought would take me to the terminal I needed to go to, and was startled when it twisted and turned through streets unknown to me. Then the bus came to halt in the middle of pretty much "nowhere". The driver telling me in french, that this was the end of the line. I told him in my god awful french that I did not understand french well, and asked him to speak a little english to me. He refused. I tried to piece together in french that I was unaware that this line did not end at the terminal, and that was where I needed to go. He wittered on in french, and proceeded to throw me off the bus. I begged him, as best I could to take me somewhere I could transfer to another line, as where we were was pretty much on the side of the highway and there was no one in sight - not a business nor phone, nor taxi...nothing. He refused me and threw me off the bus, all in french. I was pissed off, to say the least, not having a clue where I was, or a way to get out of there. He left me stranded, but added insult to injury as when he drove off, he said in perfect english, "Have a nice day.", with not even a hint of accent. I am very pissed off now.

I had to actually hitchhike to the terminal, as he left me on the side of the highway. What is even worse, he had to take the bus back to the terminal I needed to get to anyway, but he completely refused to take me too when he very well could have. I found that out when I complained, which I did immediately upon arriving at the terminal. He put my life in danger, and that I will definately not stand for. The woman who took my complaint was incredibly helpful and apologized profusely to me. His supervisor was notified and the driver reprimanded, as he should have been. I didn't get anything free, but that was certainly not important at all to me. If he was trying to make a political statement by treating an anglophone horribly, he chose an inefficient method, and put his own livelihood at risk all by himself. He shouldn't be so incredibly inconsiderate to paying passengers for any reason at all, anyway. I don't think he should be working with the public if he is only going to use it to further his own agenda. I am actually not entirely sure why he was being such a prick. Maybe he just was/is.

Anyway, I haven't seen him on any buses since.
 
 
Ganesh
15:56 / 08.12.04
Oh, I certainly didn't feel you were trivialising my hassles at all, BarbeLillith. I'm generally not one for making formal complaints myself. In this particular situation, though, I'd gone to considerable lengths to avoid the particular problems I've experienced with deliverymen in the past ie. not finding the address, not knowing which bell to press, claiming I'm not in when I am, etc., etc. - and they still fucked me around. I don't think I could reasonably claim lives had been endangered, but hey, who's being reasonable? I'm not above a little medical shroud-waving when it suits my purposes.

I've drafted a suitably detailed letter of complaint, and am just trying to work out where, exactly, to send it - and whether to copy it to the bank now, or merely use this as a threat.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:30 / 08.12.04
See, my problem with complaining is I'm shit at it. Much as I hate the fuckers, I have this inbuilt revulsion towards getting people in trouble. And if I'm actually talking to someone on the phone, I find it impossible to be anything other that shit-eatingly reasonable.
(Maybe I'll get mono to do my official complaining for me. She's much better at that sort of thing.)
 
 
Olulabelle
23:08 / 08.12.04
Don't send the letter to the MD, send it to the Director of Customer Services. The MD, or their secretary, will send it there in the first place and may chose to poison the waters first. They have chosen this person to oversee these things in the first place and they are more likely to respect direct contact than being put under the scrutiny of their boss.

I totally don't agree with this.

Customer Services staff are trained, they are trained. They go on courses about how to pacify a customer within the least amount of time, cost and effort to the company. This is true. I know this because I've been on one! I was even shown how to identify the 'likely to follow it up' complainant (someone that Customer Services should try to assist) and the less 'well written', less likely to 'make a fuss' complainant who will let things go. I was shown how to make a risk judgment in the company's favour. Companies are there to make money and your problem with them is largely irrelevant to them. You are a flea, itching their back. That's why they have Customer Services.

Customer Services are the company's way of avoiding issues as far as they possibly can. The more you follow the 'assigned route'; ('If you wish to contact customer services, fill in this form on our website') the less likely you are to get a satisfactory reply.

MD's and their staff get very few letters from the public, because most people are humbled into following the 'correct procedure.' Writing a letter to the MD (via his personal staff) almost always gets results and the reason for this is that most MD's are genuinely unaware of the problem in the first place.

And furthermore, MD's are not stupid.

Here's a timely and true story:

A woman ordered a turkey from Tesco. She had her whole family coming for Christmas Lunch. It was due to be delivered on Christmas Eve and she waited and she waited and she waited.

But no turkey.

Eventually, come the evening she called the shop and got no reply.

She called Customer Services and got no reply.

Eventually, she called head office, luckily got someone on the phone and had a shit-fit about her lack of turkey and ruined Christmas.

That someone called the MD.

The MD of Tesco asked his member of staff where the lady was, found out she lived near to him, considered the options and took his own turkey round to her house. He knocked on the door, gave her the turkey and a bottle of champagne and apologised profusely on behalf of Tesco. Of course the woman was delighted at this personal service.

Later, when being interviewed about this, the interviewer commended the MD for his philanthropic behaviour, to which the MD of Tesco replied:

"That lady told all her friends and all her friends told their friends. I am on national radio being interviewed about it and that kind of publicity would cost me millions. Tesco now has a reputation for being a caring company as a direct result of me doing what I did. I was not being philanthropic. I was running my business."
 
 
astrojax69
23:09 / 08.12.04
YOU wanna complain? look at these shoes. only had 'em a week and the heel's worn through. I'm sick and tired of this office and when are we going to get some nice weather...?

oops, monthy p slips out again... i won't argue.
 
 
Ganesh
23:24 / 08.12.04
Have to say, Olulabelle's logic makes absolute sense to me. The NHS is not dissimilar, and I know for a fact that complaints going via the Trust Director are far, far more likely to be taken seriously than those going through the 'official channels'.
 
  

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