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New Concrete Miniseries

 
 
FinderWolf
17:11 / 01.12.04
There's a new Concrete miniseries coming out this Dec. from Dark Horse. I love Concrete. Discovered it when it first came out in the late 80s, and have loved it ever since. If you like quality, intelligent non-superhero comics which nevertheless deal with a superhero-y type premise taken seriously with great characterization and human drama, excellent art & primo writing, give CONCRETE a try.

Here's an interview taken from All The Rage a few weeks ago over at Silver Bullet Comics:

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Stone Temple Pilot

Paul Chadwick is one of the most respected creators in the comic industry and one of the major contributors to the upcoming Matrix Online game. In addition to that, Concrete, his creator owned title is set to return this December in a new miniseries: Concrete: The Human Dilemma. Earlier this week, Chadwick took the time to talk about both projects:

Blair Marnell: It’s been about four years since your last Concrete story. Why was the interval between Concrete stories so long?

Paul Chadwick: The short answer is: I got myself in a money fix. So, I turned my energies to making money more quickly than I do with Concrete. But all this time I was working on this series and it’s a substantial bit of work. Six issues, 120 pages and they’re fairly dense.

BM: For some of our readers who aren’t familiar with Concrete, can you describe the concept?

PC: Concrete is a fairly small-scale, real world approach to the superhero concept. He lives in our mundane world without super-villains or other fantastic elements running around. Although his origin involves aliens, they have departed forever and he is left with a human brain transplanted into a colossal stone-covered body, facing the question of how to live a worthwhile life in that condition. That’s what the series focuses on. He’s drawn to a youthful dream of being a travel writer and this body certainly facilitates that. Although a lot of the stories evolved from his personal relationships or his environmental politics and the challenges of daily life for somebody trapped in that kind of body.

BM: He’s also a celebrity of sorts…

PC: Yeah, I do get to examine the ramifications of our celebrity culture, which I’ve been able to observe from my work in Hollywood as a storyboard artist. I’ve worked with directors and a lot of actor/directors too. And I’ve seen some very interesting distortions of life being famous causes. People who you don’t know at all get fixated on you, security concerns, the way it opens doors… and I’ve been able to apply some of that to Concrete.

BM: What can Concrete fans expect from The Human Dilemma?

PC: Some things I’ve tried to keep very constant in Concrete. And that is: he lives in a suburb of Los Angeles, in a warehouse that accommodates his proclivity towards breaking things. And his surrogate family unit: Maureen Vonnegut, a biologist who keeps him alive and studies him and his sidekick/assistant/typist Larry Munro, not to mention a two-legged dog he inherited from a company he helped out called Tripod. It starts in that setting and Concrete gets an offer from a Pizza Mogul, who has started a new foundation with a very controversial approach to population control. He wants to start a trend that makes childlessness “fashionable” and more socially acceptable. To do that he’s going to pay people, along with giving them education, career counseling and whatever they need to have success, fulfilled live, but childless. And he wants Concrete to be his spokesman for this. It’s not so much that he’s going to pay off so many people that the population explosion will stop; he wants to air out the issue through this approach. Concrete does not like fighting and he doesn’t like attention. So he’s very hesitant to do this even though he’s a very logical candidate. He’s liable to be childless, of course. He’s gray and race neutral which defuses that aspect of the issue. But he’s also a manic collector of Victorian paintings, and an arrangement is made for a painting Concrete has sought for years, “The Infinite Night.”

Concrete plunges into that publicity campaign, which allows me to explore the overpopulation issue from a lot of different angles. In the meantime, his pal Larry has reached a point in his life when he thinks he’s ready to get married. He proposes to his girlfriend and they get engaged. The problem is, Larry is NOT emotionally ready and starts to unconsciously sabotage the whole thing. The other wrinkle is, Concrete finds himself, a childless guy, about to become a parent. And that allows me to examine the issues of parenthood, which I’ve been dealing with for the last eleven years.

BM: What’s the status of the Concrete movie?

PC: [laughs] Well, in the tradition of development hell, they’re writing a new script. I’ll tell you what hung it up: Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh wrote a script. And it was the producer’s hope that after The Lord of the Rings was finally in the bag, that Peter would feel a parental love of his script and want to make Concrete his “easy” movie after The Lord of The Rings Trilogy. It didn’t happen. Peter decided to do King Kong. So, back to square one. It’s still at Disney but lacking in momentum.

BM: You’re also heavily involved with The Matrix Online, what’s your role in that?

PC: That… is my day job. I’m not a game designer but I’m writing the ongoing story of the game. It’s a massive-multiplayer, which means tens of thousands of people play at the same time. They control characters that wander around a virtual city, which they can explore or go on missions with lots of secrets to discover and factions to fight. All springing from the logic of the Matrix movies. The game itself is a sequel to The Matrix: Revolutions and it takes place during the “messy truce” that was made at the end of that film. It occurs completely in the Matrix, the major city. You never get out to Zion or the surface of the actual world, but that allows our characters to have those cool Matrix superpowers.

BM: If there’s a truce between the humans and the machines, then why are there still rebels from Zion jacking in to the Matrix?

PC: Well, they still have to police things to make sure the whole system doesn’t crash. That is to say, that if enough “blue pills” (the people sleeping in the pods powering the Matrix and experiencing it but not knowing what it really is) lose belief or “disbelief in the Matrix, they can wake up in their pods and drown or go mad. If enough of them do that then the whole system crashes. So the agents are there to coerce “red pills” (the people from Zion) to not do anything too fantastical. To not change the Matrix in an unreal way. And of course, there are humans who want to push those limits. One of the main activities is awakening “blue pills.”

BM: I imagine that wouldn’t be allowed under the terms of the truce.

PC: It is legal but it’s discouraged. That’s what makes it a “messy truce.” Then other complications come. The humans split into factions and artificial intelligence groups, which we call “exiles” in the Matrix (The Merovingian is the most prominent one in the story) who have their own agendas which are pretty disruptive. So there will be times when agents and humans join forces to battle these exiles. And humans and exiles will also team up to thwart agents. As I said, it’s very messy and complicated.

BM: How will players in the game be able to affect the story?

PC: They’ll be able to join one organization or another and advance its goals. You can actually work for The Merovingian, you can work for Zion and you can work for the machines alongside agents to accomplish their goals, a lot of which are secret and underhanded. There are also threats to the Matrix itself, this unreality I’ve been talking about. At one point a group of humans gets their hands on some code which gives them outrageous superpowers and they start making a lot of trouble in the Matrix. That’s when the agents and humans have to come together, hunt them down and eliminate them.

BM: And you have storyline planned out for the entire first year?

PC: Yeah, we’ve got an outline for a year and then I’ll be joining the “live team” that will be lying railroad tracks in front of a speeding express train. We’ll want to respond to what players seem to enjoy. And also, the Wachowskis have been secretive for what they want to do in the second year. I’m wondering myself.

BM: When is The Matrix Online going to be released?

PC: January 18th, 2005.

BM: You’ve also got a project in the works with Harlan Ellison at DC, right?

PC: Yeah, it’ll be a long term project because I’m writing the Matrix game, but I’m almost done with penciling and inking the first of a four issue prestige format miniseries called Seven Against Chaos. Harlan is basing it on a film treatment he wrote years ago, that takes The Seven Samurai plot and reimagines it in a science fictional context. But frankly, I think Harlan is more influenced by the western, The Magnificent Seven. Peter Tomasi is our editor and it’s a standalone book, not a DCU book but not a Vertigo book either. I would expect that it’s about two years away.
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FinderWolf
17:11 / 01.12.04
Preview pages from the new mini:

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Jake, Colossus of Clout
17:31 / 01.12.04
This is really exciting. I love Concrete, and the premise of trying to make childlessness fashionable is great. In fact, I've been pitching that very idea to my girlfriend for a while now.

Concrete is such a great character, and his world is so fully realized- I love the little things like Concrete's remote control and his armchair made of cinder blocks. Paul Chadwick tells some of the least pretentious, most human stories in comics. I can't wait for this one!
 
 
THX-1138
22:12 / 01.12.04
Oh yes Concrete rocks..I can't wait, so looking forward to this..It is always worth the wait in between series, whether good or bad. For me Concrete has been consistently good..
I recently had the opportunity to obtain tpb of Killer Smile (highly recommended) and Think Like A Mountain.
I think I'll go read some Concrete...
 
 
FinderWolf
19:09 / 02.12.04
Thanks to the mods for helping make the links linky in this and the Am. Flagg! thread!
 
 
Lord Morgue
06:34 / 03.12.04
Chadwick storyboarded Masters of the Universe (base for Fragile Creature) and Metalstorm: the Destruction of Jared-Synn, that I know of.
Hee, having Concrete join Earth First was brilliant. I'm sure Captain America wouldn't approve.
Hey, did anyone catch that very subtle verbal exchange in the Nepal story where he tricks this guy into basically admitting someone's sent him to observe Concrete?
The World Below was a fascinating read, nightmarish and surreal, but still thought out in that methodical Chadwick way. Too bad it died a death and left the characters in such a sucky cliffhanger- ghod, Chadwick's a sadist.
 
 
DaveBCooper
15:34 / 03.12.04
This quote made me smile :
“It starts in that setting and Concrete gets an offer from a Pizza Mogul, who has started a new foundation with a very controversial approach to population control. He wants to start a trend that makes childlessness “fashionable” and more socially acceptable”
as, if memory serves, doesn’t the chap who owns Domino’s give money to pro-life groups ?
And wasn’t there a Concrete story some years ago which referred to a book about Population Control ? I seem to recall as much, which suggests that Mr Chadwick has indeed been thinking this over for a while… though that’s not hard to believe at all, as the Concrete series never looks half-baked or rushed. It’s a class act.
 
 
Sean the frumious Bandersnatch
18:15 / 03.12.04
I don't have anything worthwhile to add, but I just wanted to say that I, too, am looking forward to the new Concrete series. It's been gone for entirely too long.

So, while we're on the topic, what do people think was the best Concrete storyline? (Phrase your answer in the form of "Think Like a Mountain.")
 
 
FinderWolf
19:59 / 03.12.04
>> The World Below was a fascinating read, nightmarish and surreal, but still thought out in that methodical Chadwick way. Too bad it died a death and left the characters in such a sucky cliffhanger- ghod, Chadwick's a sadist.

Yeah, that was a wacked-out series. Disturbing and freaky, yet strangely compelling.
 
 
FinderWolf
02:02 / 30.12.04
First issue is out, and let me be the first to say IT'S SO GOOD TO HAVE CONCRETE AND CHADWICK BACK AGAIN. This is quality stuff. Inventive, heartfelt and challenging. Well-drawn (zip a tone is still cool, or at least duo-tone shading or whatever it is) and the great universal concepts that Concrete is famous (well, sort of well-known) for.

The piece at the end where there's an essay written by Concrete himself about his favorite painting, which just happens to be a painting by Paul Chadwick, was a bit much and self-indulgent. But I forgive Paul Chadwick because I love Concrete!!

Cool bits with the adventures of his three-legged dog, Tripod, as well.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:44 / 04.01.05
preview pages for issue 2 up here - it's a really good scene. (scroll down a bit for the Concrete #2 pages)
 
 
FinderWolf
23:35 / 17.01.05
I just re-read issue 1 and just loved it all over again...but could Chadwick be going with the crazy pizza guy? And can a 3-legged dog really balance itself and walk around, etc.?
 
 
bio k9
23:51 / 17.01.05
You've never seen a three legged dog? What a beautiful sheltered life...
 
 
FinderWolf
20:32 / 01.02.05
New issue out this week - and Chadwick hinted in an interview in Wizard this month that the unthinkable happens during the course of this miniseries - Concrete and his lovely friend Maureen get together. Romantically. How can this happen?? I'm even more hooked now than before.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:08 / 04.02.05
OK, #2 kind of disappointed me -- Chadwick had some heavy-handed obvious 'here's the writer telling you things' captions and thought balloons, I don't like the way Chadwich is inserting his own (real-life) painting into the story so much, and Chadwick's attempts at Watchmen-esque text pieces related to the story in the back are falling flat. Huh. Not so keen on this as I was with the first issue.
 
 
FinderWolf
18:35 / 04.03.05
OK, get ready for wackiness - a preview cover I saw recently for #3 or #4 of this mini shows ....does anyone care if I spoil what's on the cover?
 
 
Bastard Tweed
18:40 / 04.03.05
Spoil what's on the cover? By sheer dint of being a cover it is the utmost of spoilerage unto itself.

Please, do spoil away. I'm chomping at the bit.
 
 
Planet B
19:42 / 04.03.05
yes, do tell...
 
 
sleazenation
22:19 / 04.03.05
on a tangental note there is a three-legged cat that lives in our street - it gets on just fine
 
 
FinderWolf
16:57 / 07.03.05
Concrete has a baby.


!!!

He watches Maureen get herself off and the very act of that watching apparently triggers some unique reaction in his concrete body.

The pic (I think it's the cover to issue 5?) shows a little baby Concrete in a weird high-tech crib. Bizarre.
 
 
THX-1138
23:46 / 08.03.05
I just noticed this but maybe I am hallucinating?
The date below PC's signature on the cover art of issue two of Human Dillema.
1989 ?
Can I get a confirmation on that?
 
 
FinderWolf
15:20 / 09.03.05
I think I remember seeing that very old date as well; I remember noting it and going "Huh" when I read it.

Well, he did have a looong time in between minis and maybe just figured he'd use a previously unused Concrete picture that was lying around for the new mini.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:59 / 11.03.05
Okay, #3 was a little better than #2...had less of the sense of 'here's the writer telling you things in a heavy-handed way' (although one of his environmental factoids, about guns, seems to take place on a page where there's absolutely nothing about guns; the previous times there was some connection to what was going on in the story when pop up video environmental facts came up).

Larry has an affair after being freaked out about committment and Astra wanting to have kids soon, Concrete is all itchy with birth...? pangs.

Some nice discussion/debate about the 'we should sterilize a lot of the population to control population growth' concept.

And the cover of THIS issue is dated 2002. Guess he really was slowly working on this mini for a long time, since this cover is plot-specific.
 
 
THX-1138
01:47 / 12.03.05
there were guns though weren't there, in the bg of that conspiracy guy...?
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
23:51 / 13.03.05
I am liking this mini-series, and unlike a lot of other comics creators, Chadwick is still doing his comics as individual comics instead of just chapters for the eventual collected version. The story is unfolding on its own terms, with nice issue ending cliffhangers, and Chadwick is even taking time to reintroduce all of the characters to us, remembering that it's been quite some time since he did a Concrete story.

The only thing I didn't like about this issue, and I REALLY didn't like it, was when he, as a writer, stepped back and instead of showing us how well spoken Concrete is on the issue, he just had a toss away remark that "Well, he used to be a really good speechwriter." If the writer is going to frame his story in the form of a debate, it's cheating to say "OH, and the hero was better than the other guy."

I am won over by Chadiwck's art all over again, and he has a solid, realistic style that we don't see a lot of in comics anymore. It's almost totally understated, as opposed to the hyper-kinetic style of art most comics have. I wouldn't be surprised if Chadwick's biggest influce was John Buscema, as it has the same skill with figure drawing and atmosphere that Buscema had on series he enjoyed drawing like Conan or Weirdworld.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:19 / 19.04.05
Re-read this recently and I really, really enjoy this book...looking forward to the next issue and BABY CONCRETE!!!
 
 
FinderWolf
12:31 / 05.05.05
Baby Concrete has arrived. Cigars and shower gits accepted in room 4A.
 
 
THX-1138
23:18 / 11.05.05
I guess Maureen and Con are going to ( maybe) figure out that 'mini-Con' came about as a result of their consummation and then conclude they shouldn't do that again?!?
I'm hoping to see an intelligent exchange between them about their love for each other.
Excellent...
I am a little apprehensive at the thought of another wait for the next Concrete series, now that PC is on the Matrix gig and didn't he mention a new comic series?
 
 
THX-1138
00:56 / 13.05.05
and oh yeah did you catch the eye staring out of Cons back? That was kinda weird. Are the aliens watching? I caught it twice: on the cover art and one panel in the comic (when Larry has a look I think)
 
 
DaveBCooper
08:56 / 13.05.05
I’ve really been enjoying this series, particularly the way that the characters’ sexuality has been played up in connection with the whole procreation/anticreation theme.
And as telling as it may be, is it just me or is it (as with 7 Soldiers) very satisfying to have this book actually shipping when it’s meant to, and unfolding without long gaps between issues ? Kudos to Chadwick and Dark Horse for doing it like it’s meant to be done.
Looking forward to the last issue, and not just so I can complete my ‘back cover picture’.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
05:06 / 14.05.05
I so want to love this comic...but the pacing seems a bit contrived to me. Maybe it's that the "b-plot" is so soap opera, but it just seems to me that this is a movie treatment type story with everything focusing on the theme of "too many children in the world" in such a way that it almost reads like a polemic, rather than an organically occuring story.

Possibly it's because I really like Chadwick's stuff, and the wait between the previous mini-series and this one built it up in my mind, but there are too many pages that seem like "Paul Chadwick wants to give us tons of information in the guise of dialogue" for me. I like the stuff about Concrete's sexuality, how he sublimates his human needs, but the "talking heads" portion almost seem like a highs chool student's report.

On top of it...$3.50 an issue? Good LORD that's a high price for a black and white comic.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:02 / 03.06.05
Final issue out this week, really solid issue, very interesting ending, all the characters are in very different places...I'll write about this more soon.
 
  
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