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Man-size Kundalini

16:00 / 16.07.01

I've read a bit about raising kundalini energies,tantric methods,yoga,lifestyle et al. ,but what I'd like to do is somehow channel that energy into a magical working.It seems to me,that lots of people have shared this experience,BUT No-one has a clue whats happening.Crowley treats kundalini,from what I understand,as being part of a link to altered states of awareness,where other possibilities exist (such as self-healing,magic,angels,astral exploration,and other psychic effects)
But if the self-mutation of soul/ego/psychology exists through this energy,how can the effects become more recognisable,detailed and specific?

And is it a one shot deal?I mean,is the energy only doing 'work' while its rising?Does the character 'Jack' in 'The Invisibles'
ever use this ability?,or is that something else.Has anyone 'out there' had this experience,and would like to talk about it?Please don't be scared to admit you're head also explodes on a regular basis.

Thanks.

I mean no disrespect to anyone for whom this is a true religious experience.I'd just like to know what people think about it.

[ 16-07-2001: Message edited by: kobol strom ]

[ 17-07-2001: Message edited by: kobol strom ]

11:36 / 17.07.01

Well,anything on the topic wuld be a tremendous help to me.I hide behind the frivolity,but I'm as daunted by the experience as the next gnostic!

19:24 / 17.07.01

I've gone back to the books,and have found that I should be taking this more seriously,and probably more personally.

...dons space helmet,looks around,tries to remember where he parked UFO.

20:05 / 17.07.01

I've been trying to figure out if I had anything constructive to tell you. My experience with Kundalini is quite limited and, while I've felt the Kundalini rise while doing traditional Kundalini yoga (my girlfriend does it quite regularly but I only do it when I'm around and in the mood which isn't that often I'm afraid) I haven't had a mind blowing, reality shattering kundalini experience.

I've tried various types of yoga and I definitely would stick with Kundalini if I was going to commit to any regular yoga practice.

I say read the book then throw it away and take regular classes for 6 months and then let us know what you think

07:36 / 18.07.01

This is truly fascinating stuff.

Thanks for sharing, man.

16:08 / 18.07.01

Thanks for the reply Warewullf.
My only advice to anyone reading this who might be interested,or going through it would be, (this is difficult for me as I'm not even sure of the implications myself) -

Firstly, -don't settle for my description of the experience,or anyone elses.
-read as much as you can about the benefits,then decide for yourself what works and what's bullshit.
The rest is the Undiscovered Country,and thats why I posted.Cheers.

01:04 / 19.07.01

I heard that you need a teacher to do Kundalini yoga. (actually, I've read that it's better to have a teacher to guide you and to help you understand what's going on.) I'm willing to risk it until I can find a teacher. What books or any other resources do you recommend about kundalini yoga?

06:57 / 19.07.01

I think I've seen most of the stuff on the net,that is still up and running.Unfortunately,a lot of it is just plain wrong,or very vague.Except one girl,from India,who started 'down the road' to the Kundalini rising,but she claims to have gotten so freaked out,she decided to stick to normal yoga!The symptoms she described were absolutely spot on with my own experience,but I honestly can't blame her.For a number of reasons.
Realising the univere may all be one connected energy and that you may be able to unleash some of it is actually an epiphany.Its one of those pieces of knowledge,that,by itself,is mundane.Then when you begin to understand what it really means and the possible implications,it can make you feel a bit mad.
2.'So whats new?'you might think.Fine,.The experience of the ,lets say,(select non-new age term) 'fast -track to cosmic place'is a really strange one,with a couple of non-intuituve left and right turns.You might need a guide to help you stay cool,but then again,its more of an adventure without the safety net,at the end of the day,it will be all your own work.

Some spectacularly weird stuff (you know you love it) can be found at

This site

especially issue eight.Also,beware of 'The pranic healing gurus'.They're just speculators on the beach.

14:00 / 19.07.01

quote:Originally posted by Lionheart:
I heard that you need a teacher to do Kundalini yoga. (actually, I've read that it's better to have a teacher to guide you and to help you understand what's going on.) I'm willing to risk it until I can find a teacher. What books or any other resources do you recommend about kundalini yoga?

I don't think you need a heavy duty guru but there are plenty of available classes that you can join to get you started. My experience has led me to the conclusion that yoga is very similar to martial arts in that it's pretty hard to learn from a book or video. Just having someone making sure you've really got the right pose can make all the difference in the world, not just for any 'kundalini' reasons but also just so that you're stretching properly and working the right muscles.

16:48 / 20.07.01

I know that yoga helped my mum tremendously when she was pregnant with one of my sisters.
I am puzzled by my lack of courage in explaining this experience further,since the effects are so real to me,and not spurious delusions.After the fourth time,I am beginning to see the world differently,and I 'm not even sure of the ramifications of this,Im trying to connect it to my experiences with dreams and magic.I would love to write a real 'how to',but at the moment it is beyond my powers.There is no real start point to go down this road,chances are you're already on it.Many people in history,if the literature is to be believed,have become changed permanently.It is a real responsibility, to have touched a new part of reality,seemingly behind the walls,is to have a 'kubrick' moment,its a monolith.I did think at one point I might go a bit nuts,but it was more like feeling young again,like a kid in the world.Research and practise of magic excites me because of the real world effects.But this process that leads to this cosmic experience was and still seems,to be a natural one.If I think about the possibilities and consequences its a terrifying concept,but eventually you have to just laugh,build on your life as a human, and take one day after the next, filling it with scalextric.
I ask myself if posting is even the right thing to do?I think maybe I need to at this point,and I'm very thankful for your responses.

[ 20-07-2001: Message edited by: kobol strom ]

18:51 / 20.07.01

quote:I say read the book then throw it away

and what books do you reccomend reading (before throwing away)?

18:15 / 26.08.01

quote:Originally posted by Kriztalyne:

and what books do you reccomend reading (before throwing away)?

Sorry for the delay in responding (to a thread that's probably well dead anyway) but I was in Mexico for 5 weeks.

The book I was referencing was a hypothetical one that Kobol was mentioning in hir "I've gone back to the books" statement.

13:35 / 27.08.01

Can't recommend any books.but there is an interesting article in newsweek concerning this experience,and the scientists who are trying to explain it...
..no-one knows what the fuck it is,crazy people don't know what it is,scientists don't know what it is,- don't it make you feel good?

Link to article about The Way of The Exploding Head

07:22 / 28.08.01

I can recommend a book if you are interested in kundalini. It is only mentioned in regards to other elements of Tantra and self awareness.

The book is "Tantra Without Tears" By Christopher S Hyatt & S. Jason Black. The book is and excellent introduction to Tantra for western ears (and other bits).

I also recommend "Rebels and Devils" edited by C S Hyatt.

In fact everything I have read by New Flacon Publications is worthwhile.

I'm not getting paid for this I promise.