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Christian Magick/ Bush

 
 
Joetheneophyte
19:58 / 17.11.04
Please forgive any typos as I have been drinking red wine for awhile this evening, here goes:

I have read numerous topics on Barbelith about how the recent US election could be influenced by Magick, Bush could develop a conscience, Kerry could be given energy or how the Vice President could be 'given' a heart attack by Magickal means

incidently, did anybody notice the strange coincedence that Dick did suffer from heart trouble, a few weeks later?

It's as if, once the protection of the US servitor/'Electoral process' was over......Big Dick was then vulnerable to attack?



Anyway, this got me thinking........Do you think that Bush CONSCIOUSLY employed the prayer power of the Evangelicals?


We have discussed the power of prayer before on these boards and I ask forgiveness if anybody has already brought this up but how do you all feel, or what is your opinion as to whether Dubya or his handlers:

a: consciously decided that the power of Prayer was a powerful enough factor to influence results

b: How much they already knew about the efficacy of this method

c: The limits of such power

d: 'When' do you think they realised this 'force'

there are laods more questions of this ilk that I invite (sadly the Gods of Australian Red Wine are using my mental faculties for other more important means, such as 'does he want a piss REALLY? or SHOULD he go to bed?)


But despite my flippancy, my questions are serious and I believe I would ask even when sober

I 'DO' BELIEVE IN SOME KIND OF 'PRAYER' POWER and I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW HOW MUCH YOU BELIEVE GEORGE JUNIOR, OR HIS HANDLERS, CONSCIOUSLY ACKNOWLEDGE THIS FORCE?
 
 
charrellz
23:51 / 17.11.04
Probably not what you're shooting for, but as an alleged devout Christian, Bush fully believes in the power of prayer, just not the same way most of us here do. While we see gnosis and fullfilment of will, they see the blessings of God. So yes, Bush very much thought prayer would affect the election, I'm sure he thinks it's God's will that he is in office, and all those prayers helped to shape God's will, or something - I'm a little confused on just how prayer to God works in the schema of an omniscient, omnipotent god, perhaps I'll start a thread on when I'm feeling less lazy.
 
 
Joetheneophyte
06:50 / 18.11.04
please do,I sort of know what you are getting at but I would like to hear more of your thoughts on this.
Recently, I started a thread that touched upon the Gnostic idea of the Demiurge. Is that what you are alluding to?

If I am totally wrong I am sorry but please do post your ideas, I will look out for them
 
  
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