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How do you 'boost' your Servitors?

  
 
Joetheneophyte
16:18 / 14.11.04
How do you empower your servitors?

(if you care to share)



Anyway....I ahve only experience of four Servitors.......Skavan from another board, who I offered a cigar to ( I smoked it and coughed on his behalf).....little discernible results to my consiousness but I never follwed it up and that might be my fault

GEK from here (again, I was lacking in my offerings as I got a sickening for sweet foodstuffs)


And two of my own creation. My own creations are two Servitors who are related ........in fact I created the second to help the first in his operations. I got an 'impression' that he was lonely and created a mate for him

To date, I have had little or nothing spectacular in results (which I would rather not go too far into except in private messages, if anybody cares to investigate)

Suffice to say, that I included several safeguards in their creation, to hopefully ensure that whatever my intent.......all harm to others would be avoided. I am very very careful in my magickal work



I have dabbled with placing the Sigil of my creations in various places, where I know group gnosis is achieved (such as under the screen of betting shops..........on the screens of tv's in pubs whilst football games are being played etc). This I have hoped would boost their strength and I have even gone to the length of stipulating that they should have the ability to absorb free floating gnosis to boost their own powers


Now I know this comes down to your personal beliefs as to how Sigils/Servitors work..........ie, are they purely subjective......similar to Hypnosis or suggestion...........
Do they effect the Universe beyond me/ my unconscious

................or is it a mixture of both


or something else altogether?



Please feel free to offer your own methods of empowering your Servitors. If you don't want to answer or feel this is too intrusive a question .....please accept my sincerest apologies for the intrusion or just ignore this post (which will ultimately seal it's fate........as it drops dow the board)


I HOPE that the ideas I have detailed above have (if not ridiculous) helped spark your own faculties and given you a few ideas

thanks






Joe
 
 
illmatic
16:28 / 14.11.04
Joe, will you please stop issuing apologies and playing low status with everything you write. It's really wearing after a while. And while I'm at it, stop it with the annoyinng doublespacing. Thank you.

As to the meet of your question, I'm of the opinion that there's no fixed method that's defintely going to work. Discover your own, if it don't work, do something different. Having said that, I don't think there's any harm in sharing information. I've never really used servitors but the devotional work I do do, I support with sacrifices of food, booze, candles. Anything that gets your attention focused in that direction should do it. I think it might be worth deconstrucing exactly what's going on when you create a servitor - are you really creating an entity? Or are you associating a number of cues (visualised images, sigils etc) with certain intentions instead?
 
 
illmatic
16:29 / 14.11.04
Joe, will you please stop issuing apologies and playing low status with everything you write. It's really wearing after a while. And while I'm at it, stop it with the annoyinng doublespacing. Thank you.

As to the meet of your question, I'm of the opinion that there's no fixed method that's defintely going to work. Discover your own, if it don't work, do something different. Having said that, I don't think there's any harm in sharing information. I've never really used servitors but the devotional work I do do, I support with sacrifices of food, booze, candles. Anything that gets your attention focused in that direction should do it. I think it might be worth deconstrucing exactly what's going on when you create a servitor - are you really creating an entity? Or are you associating a number of cues (visualised images, sigils etc) with certain intentions instead?
 
 
Joetheneophyte
16:37 / 14.11.04
Sorry. My problem is that I am lazy with punctuation and I have had bad experiences on message boards where my inherent arrogance has led to moderators giving me a hard time (I tread a fine line between arrogance and insecurity)
Anyway, thanks for the advice. To date, my experience has been that whilst I thought it was a good idea, I have had little tangible results from posting the Servitors Sigil, in highly visible places.
I admit that this might be down to the highly emotive (lust for results) nature of the sigil or something more elusive.

cheers

Joe
 
 
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03:23 / 15.11.04
Maybe as you spend more time with them and let their characters come through a little more, you'll find that they gradually start drawing more power as you learn more about Magick yourself.

If your really bothered about them, the next time you do any astral travelling or meditation focused an another plane, check if it's ok with whatever your doing first and if it is, take them with you. As they build up experience and gather different energies they should get stronger.

Do they effect the Universe beyond me/ my unconscious.

I think that anything you do at all with Magick will affect the Universe/your Unconscious but if you act responsibly with them you should be alright, especially with the safeguard that you put in. Be patient with them and you should get some results, it might just be a matter of time.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
04:41 / 15.11.04
I posted the following in a previous thread on egregores, but I think it's more relevant to this one:

I generally tend to view servitors as a magical equivalent of a background program - something that - once launched - you can basically forget about, although having said that, if some event occurrs which I have decided to interpret as a 'sign' of that servitors' activity, I focus on the servitor momentarily and say "thank you". I've had a 'book finding' servitor active for about 10-11 years now. So t'other day, popping into a bookshop just on the offchance of finding something worthwhile, I found myself thinking "There was something I thought I'd be interesting to read - what was it ... oh yes, the Hatha Yoga Pradipika. Now do they have a copy? Oh yes. Oh, it's a heavily commented edition. Don't want that one. Let's see if I can find an edition where it's just Sanskrit-English." After hunting around for about an hour I found a very slim volume which was just what I wanted. Now, both the initial "prompt" (me remembering a book I wanted to read) and the event of "finding" exactly the edition I wanted, I attribute to the activity of the book-finding servitor. This increases my 'confidence' in the servitor's ability to do its job. Just as an aside, the servitor seems to function most effectively when I am just browsing on the offchance (i.e. I'm in a 'drift' frame of mind) - if I'm actively seeking a particular title, I find that it's not much help.

So what?
What have I done here? I've taken an intention - "finding books" and decided to identify a bunch of criteria/events associated with that with the activity of an autonomous 'entity' which is little more than a name, a visualised image, and some associated behaviours that I carry out when I decide that the "servitor" has been effective. I don't consider it 'sentient' any more than I think of the FTP client on my desktop as being 'sentient', but equally, I consider it to be autonomous from me in much the same way that I'd consider a desktop application I'd written to be autonomous.

Now, if I share the 'source code' for that servitor, then anyone who wants to make the identification between it and "finding books" can do so, and we assume that the more people use it, the more effective at carrying out its instructions the entity becomes. However, unless people let me know that they've been using it, there's no way that I can know this.
 
 
Joetheneophyte
19:07 / 15.11.04
thanks to you all,interesting stuff and has provoked much thought and made me realise I should be more patient. I will mull over what you have said and if I have any other insights or ideas, I will let you know.
 
 
gale
18:15 / 16.11.04
Hi Joe,

Have you asked them what they would like? I have one entity that asked for wine, copper, or fire. Another likes flowers. Do you spend quality time with them? I'm not kidding. You will get what you are willing to give. It takes very little time and effort and is totally worth it. And don't forget to thank them!
 
 
Samael
14:52 / 17.11.04
I find that how I empower (or rather re-charge) it depends upon the function or tasks of the servitor. For instance, if someone had a servitor to protect them from someone else, then they would simply keep charging it by whatever fear and/or anxiety they feel in regards to the threatening party. If a servitor is created for anything regarding love, lust, sex, whatever then one could re-charge it via sexual gnosis methods. From the post servitors here, it seems that having others use it and charge it works well too. In your case, I would take a step back and consider the objectives of your creations, then think about if you have restricted them too much, or not enough, and then ponder a suitable means to re-charge them in a manner related to what you would have them accomplish.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
15:21 / 17.11.04
Actually, the point I was trying to put across is that they don't necessarily 'need' recharging/boosting' (IMO).
 
  
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