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Bizarre 'Spiritual' experience

 
 
GRIM
12:11 / 03.07.01
Background . . .

My wife went up to London on the Thursday of last week, so I had a night to myself, but between the heat, and not having someone to curl up with for the first time in months I got practically zero sleep.

On the Friday I didn't get to eat, low on cash and nothing in the fridge...
I then travelled up to meet her in London directly after work, half delerious with need for sleep and food.

I arrived in Waterloo and availed myself of a Bagel and sat, watching the crowd while I ate.
As I ate I felt as if I was meditating, the same kind of peace I used to be able to attain when I did that a lot.
Watching the people was like watching the sea wash back and forth, then my mind wen on one of its little meanderings and I thought of the city, and all the people here as part of one big organism.

The very INSTANT I had that idea in mind someone trod on me.
From that point on my journey was hellish.
People kept jostling me, no-one sat next to me on the tube, the line got stopped and two gipsy women and their children (one with an Accordian - I hate accordians) were escorted off by Transport Police, who stopped to have a good look at me too, even though I was looking vaguely respectable.

As we pulled away I saw some right-on chick with green hair giving the cops a hard time over their treatment of the beggars and thought things would pick up.

But no, same jostling at my destination.

I can't help feeling odd and paranoiac.
Its like the city/human organism realised I was onto it and started to reject me as an alien cell.

Freaked me out something rotten.

GRIM
 
 
Warewullf
12:49 / 03.07.01
I often get the feeling of a connection with Dublin City. It's great when it happens.
Time passes quickly when walking and people seem to get out of your way, even when it's busy. (I even "talk" to the city sometimes.)

Of course, the second you start to realise that's what's happening, you lose it and people start to walk straight into you!

(Could that be related to the "lust of result" thing with chaos magic? It won't happen until you forget that you wanted it to happen in the first place?)
 
 
nul
14:31 / 03.07.01
You were/are odd, which drives you to paranoia that everyone will notice just how odd you were/are. Your fear, in turn, triggers a reaction in the people around you who will eye you with suspicion. The trick is to think to yourself that nothing is out of the ordinary.

Or stop depriving yourself of food and sleep so you don't fall into an altered state while in a public place.
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
14:51 / 03.07.01
I don't know if this is what's happened to you but the only times I've encountered situations like the one you describe have been when I've made 'leaps' in my ability to perceive other realities, energies, etc. and didn't realize what was happening.

Some people describe this as having your crown chakra opened a bit(and not realizing it or knowing how to close it again).

Kind of like being hard of hearing and suddenly the volume goes up so loud that it hurts.

If you've been working on spiritual skills and goals then this might be a good sign. If this is what happened to you, it may have been triggered by the sleep deprivation and lack of food. Both of which, as Brenden mentioned above, have been traditional ways to bring on 'visions' and altered states.

If you are still feeling this way, or if it happens again, try smudging yourself with your favorite incense or taking a bath or shower. Focus on the intent of 'cleaning' and 'closing' your chakras to a point of balance. This won't set any spiritual development back, it's more like a banishing ritual after doing magic.

Also, wearing a hat can be a physical trigger to 'grounding' yourself.

If you try those things and the weirdness persists, then it might be something else.

[ 03-07-2001: Message edited by: Lothar Tuppan ]
 
 
GRIM
06:21 / 04.07.01
Thanks for the comments and interest peeps, and the similar experiences made me feel like less of a freak

I'm still having the peculiar sensation of seperation from everyone except family and very close friends, but at least the 'city organims' doesn't seem to be attacking me with 'white corpuscles' any more.

I'd be inclined to put it down to hunger and tiredness, except that in my late teens I was looked around all over the place for some kind of spirituality, faith or belief that would work for me.

I didn't find anything, so settled on skeptical atheism.
A couple of things came close to working for me though, and this event produced a similar sensation, though I haven't been actively seeking something in about 7 years.

Sometimes things just happen to you to make you think.

GRIM
 
 
Yagg
00:57 / 14.07.01
Lothar: Please tell me more about wearing a hat. Were you just joking? Seriously, I find this intriguing. There was a spell in my life during which I ALWAYS wore a hat, and for years since I've HATED wearing one. Lately I've actually worn one once in awhile. Even if you were joking, you've now set me off trying to decide if I underwent personality shifts between the hatless/hatted phases.
 
 
01
04:37 / 14.07.01
quote: Watching the people was like watching the sea wash back and forth, then my mind wen on one of its little meanderings and I thought of the city, and all the people here as part of one big organism.

Not only the city, Mr. Man. The whole damn thing. The planet, the solar system, the galaxy and whatever else. This chaos theory thing is only the beginning. I really dug what you said about waves of people being like the ocean. Look at how they move. They walk in clusters. These clusters can be plotted mathematically and ta-daa: method to the madness.
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
13:22 / 16.07.01
quote:Originally posted by Yagg:
Lothar: Please tell me more about wearing a hat. Were you just joking? Seriously, I find this intriguing. There was a spell in my life during which I ALWAYS wore a hat, and for years since I've HATED wearing one. Lately I've actually worn one once in awhile. Even if you were joking, you've now set me off trying to decide if I underwent personality shifts between the hatless/hatted phases.


I wasn't joking. I'm not sure what connections personality shifts may have with hats but when I'm feeling especially 'open' spiritually (specifically if my 'openness' relates to the crown chakra)I'll wear a hat. I think it mainly has a psychological significance of something 'protecting' your head but it also grounds that part of your body into the physical by continually giving physical stimuli. It could also be an ontological 'prop' for me. A few years ago my teacher told me that was a good idea at a time when I was pretty freaked out by some weird stuff, it worked and I've been doing it since. For all I know I might have gotten the same result if she had told me that putting a banana in my pocket would work.

Hats and other forms of clothing have power if we let them though.

Did you ever see that old Bugs Bunny cartoon where the Acme hat shop truck spills all its contents and Bugs and Elmer Fudd continually shift personalities as different hats drop on their heads?

Beware the bridal veil
 
 
Saint Keggers
03:49 / 06.08.01
On the topic of weird spiritual/mystical experiences...Im kegboy, and this is my story,warning, its a long one..
Ever since I was a young child I've had the same reoccuring dream. I enter a strange old house, Ive entered a diffrent portion of the house in a different reoccuring dream, and procceed to climb a staircase. What unsual is that the steps are made out of drawers which open up behind me. When I get to the room at the top there is a painting of the virgin mary (which is odd becasue Im not catholic and alot no special significance to her). She is in her classic garb. Its robins egg blue, and for some reason that idea occurs in the dream, that its "not just blue but robin's egg blue. She says something to me, in a very lyrical and etheral voice. I dont catch what she says but get the impression taht it doesnt matter that I didnt catch it. Ok thats it for the background.
A few years ago I at a dinner party at a friends. I had only had one beer that afternoon and later a small glass of wine with supper. Ther were about 6 of us ther and we slept over. Im lying on the floor at night and I suddenly get a image of someone who looks like the person in the mary painting. I only see her face and ist very large, all encompassing. Suddenly I started to giggle, much to the annoyance of the other people trying to sleep. The giggling continues for hours and by this time my stomach muscles are screamming in pain. Somewhere in the back of my mind I remeber a passage from a bio of Crowely where has asks for samadhi from the spirit that contacted him. So I decide to ask for the thing that I knew wouldnt be from my subconscious or some such thing. I wanted Einsteims e=mc2 explained. And "poof", I started to really laugh and was pounding my fists against the carpeting because "I knew it!, I undestood what he meant and it was sooo childishly simple". NexthingI know Im floating over the earth and every time I focus on some portion of it it immeadiatly zooms in until I cna see buildings, then people, then individual blades of grass the the atoms and even more than that. Then nexthin I know Im seeing all the planets and then the solar systems and the furthur and furthur untill it all looks like a giant sphere fiulled with sparkling marbles....

Then I fell asleep.
Ever since then i havent been able to do a single creative thing (im an illustrator). I still have the talent but there's no oomph to it..its all very technical and without spirit to it...
ok folks, whats it all mean???
 
 
Kobol Strom
22:03 / 06.08.01
Good one.I think your model of the universe sounds interesting.I'm not sure if two people can agree on what the universe looks like from the outside.To me it was a big convoluted many-trumpetted amoeba.Its nice to see and experience space in such a real way,in that state you were in.It probably won't be the last time it ever happens either,unless you want it to be.Where do you go after you've seen the entire universe?If you have seen the entire Universe,have you ever seen the Holiday Heaven camp in Vega?(I think it was Vega).Maybe you should stop off at Sirius some time,on your way out.Then come back with some new ideas and happy snaps for your artwork?.Im really serious.
 
  
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