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Barbelith Questionnaire- Who are your gods?

 
  

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Sean the frumious Bandersnatch
12:48 / 08.11.04
"Hey, Habu... How many gods do you have?" "I don't know, I lost count."

Since there doesn't seem to be a thread for this, I was wondering which different gods 'Lithers invoke/feel a kinship with the most, and which gods you wish loved you more.

For example, I have a real fondness for the hindu gods. I've done my fair share of calling upon Ganesh and Krishna/Vishnu, but the effort doesn't seem to be getting me anywhere. However, I've found that, in one form or another, Odin keeps popping up in my writing. I don't know if it's the idea of a god of secrets that appeals to me, or if I just have an eyepatch fetish, but there it is.

(By the way, the quotes are from this horribly offensive web site. "My friend Bomby the bombadier beetle shoots boiling-hot toxic chemicals out of his butt. Why?" "God gave your friend that ability for a defense against evil and as a testament against the false doctrine of evoloution.")
 
 
Aertho
13:45 / 08.11.04
This may get me a slap and direct ticket to the "Cultural Apropriation" thread, but I turned the Sephira into the Everests. It's pretty much my own personal mythology "what if" scenario, where the Olympians wake up one day and realize their children have usurped control of the collective unconscious. Fear of children as replacements is a big Greek Myth theme, and holds true today.

So you take all of Zeus's full-god kids and line them up accordingly: Ares for sagacity in Geburah, Hephaestus for magnanimity in Chesed, Apollo for harmony in Tiphereth, Aphrodite for emotion in Netzach, Athena for reason in Hod, Artemis for imagination in Yesod(flanked by Selene for fantasy and Hecate for mystery), Persephone for sensation in Malkuth... the supernals are tricky cuase I strech the canvas a bit and pull in ringers like Prometheus for inspiration in Chokmah, and Ananke for understanding in Binah, and since once you boil all of existence down into a white hot room, and you realize it's just a wonderful, amazing, exuberant party, I set Dionysus at Kether. The last son of Zeus is patron saint of the Invisible Knowledge, which puts Hermes in Da'ath.

I know, I shouldn't play with systems older than me, but family is important to me, and so are Disney cartoons. I can sit and meditate and watch my comic gods bicker and kiss and dance and build ideas in my head.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
15:18 / 08.11.04
"Wouldn't you rather have one god who loves you a bunch than a bunch of gods who don't love you at all?"

But they do, and if some of them don't seem to love us so much, they are the ones we should pay more attention to. It's all about working out relationships. Sometimes when the Gods give us a hard time, it's just their way of teaching us something. If you can manage to get on with a full pantheon then you must be a pretty well rounded, versatile and adaptable human being. By trying to get on with a whole pantheon, we endeavour to become better rounded, more versatile, and more adaptable human beings. If a Goddess of Love decides to mess with you and disrupt your life, then she has taken an interest, there are probably lessons she things you ought to learn from her. She might not spare the rod. You'd better listen to what she's saying. If you can approach a God that is distant, aggressive, even hostile to you and what it thinks you are about, and manage to find some common ground with that God, build a bridge between you, develop a positive relationship nonetheless, then you will have grown as both a person and a magician. To my mind, that is the essence of entity work. Building good relationships.

I can sit and meditate and watch my comic gods bicker and kiss and dance and build ideas in my head.

I don't understand. Are you not just applying the Olympians to the Tree of Life? You can do it, in fact, most things can be (and have been) hung on the Tree of Life. The main problem is that nuances from both systems tend to be lost, and the devil is always in the detail. Also, what you describe sounds more like creative reinterpretation of mythology (which is fair enough, can be rewarding, and if it works for you, go for it) rather than what I would consider direct gnostic entity work. It sounds more like a process of mind mapping, or perhaps reality mapping. Do you have a living relationship with any of the pantheon you have described? Do they push you and test you? Turn up in your life and speak to you? Wake you up screaming at 4 in the morning?
 
 
LVX23
15:20 / 08.11.04
Nuit, Hadit, Horus (multiple forms), and recently Ma'at.

Shiva and Kali (esp in her devouring aspect).

Tara.
 
 
LVX23
15:27 / 08.11.04
And the many forms of Luna.
 
 
Aertho
15:47 / 08.11.04
Gypsy:

I was being glossy and obtuse. I don't really meditate that often. Or imagine these "gods" having parties. But you nailed it later on when you said:

It sounds more like a process of mind mapping, or perhaps reality mapping. Do you have a living relationship with any of the pantheon you have described? Do they push you and test you? Turn up in your life and speak to you? Wake you up screaming at 4 in the morning?

Creative reality-mapping is much more in line with what I think I use them for. I DON'T think I have an intimate relationship with and divinity in the cases you describe above, or in other posts I've read. Using them as guides helps me. I suppose they're not "gods" in your definiton, but more how I interpret my interactions with the world. Which is more accurate? In the real sense, or to the question above?

Exloring YOUR definiton leads me to believe I've a relationship with "goddess" that is my better in all things. She constantly challenges me and treats my weaknesses with disgust. I've always interpreted it as my anima, but I dream about her —And she "takes over" when I feel I need to challenge my environment and the others in it —improvement through exhausted conflict. What is this? Would you diagnose it as a channel for a divine force? Perhaps you could clarify or submit more questions for authentic investigation?
 
 
charrellz
16:06 / 08.11.04
Ordinarily I stay away from gods, but lately I've been spending alot of time with Eris. Not quite to a full on relationship yet, but we have exchanged glances and gotten through the introductions.

Personally I prefer the idea of a pantheon over monotheism if you're gonna deal with gods at all. Why stick yourself to just one boring old god when you can have one for every occasion? Besides, I feel a member of a pantheon is a little better for close personal relationships. I mean, I don't know about you, but I feel I have more in common with Hermes than with YHVH (unless you think YHVH is in me/I am in Him, in which case we have a little too much in common if you ask me).
 
 
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16:10 / 08.11.04
Brigit and Morrigu.

Danu, Buddha (not supposed to be a God but I approach him in the same way.) and Jesus from time to time aswell. Earlier this year I was briefly with Shiva and Lakshmi but I'm pretty sure that I'm not ready to be with them yet. Lugh and Cerridwen are next to meet as far as I know. (just seeing Cerridwens name makes me nervous.)

Kali (esp in her devouring aspect).

It's very rare that I see her, but same here. I met her around the same time as I got in touch with Shiva and Lakshmi and now she comes around from time to time. (or should I say appears out of nowhere, always unexpected.) It's pretty edgy. I think I'm lucky in that I love and respect her!

Thanks for the wise words aswell GL regarding being more rounded through working with Gods/Goddesses and developing as a Magician by doing that. That sounds spot on.
 
 
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16:27 / 08.11.04
And whilst I'm here GL : I don't know if you'll remember, but thanks for advising me to concentrate on developing real relationships with deities instead of just trying to summon them without really knowing them a few months back in a thread here. (remember when I made that awful, clueless spell for uncrossing and I named loads of deities?) Anyway that really helped me, so thanks again.

I don't even wanna imagine how much spiritual debt I owe you already.

Buy you some pints if I ever meet you?
 
 
Madman in the ruins.
17:29 / 08.11.04
I've worked with Odin (Obvoisly and ouch), Tyr, Baron Piquant, Freya.
 
 
eye landed
17:33 / 08.11.04
in the past year ive made a shift from an egyptian/hermetic approach to a norse/pagan approach. during that time, ive let go of some intellectual arrogance and developed a more physical paradigm. it involved a fair amount of suffering, as one would expect from the northern gods. during my transitional phase, voodoo (or something) was itching in the back of my head, but my only sources for it are ganja and a drum. oh yeah, and a velvet top hat. the itch has something to do with ancestor work, but ive been lazy in that regard.

as far as individual gods, ive been 'blessed' (cough) with a strong affinity for 'outsider' gods, primarily seth and loki. theyre the ones who tell me to do things, namely learn that which is hidden and discard what i value most, respectively. (thoth is an outsider too, and i admire him, but he has never spoken to me directly. i envy a thothian friend who seems to get a lot from him, some of which he passes on.)

i had something going on with osiris, but we parted ways somewhat rashly. this has something to do with my role as a leader of men, but i have not figured it out. im working on a rebirth thing, so maybe time will tell.

lastly, abraxas (the gnostic god of the beyond) seems to show up in my life at seemingly unimportant times, just to amuse me perhaps. it tends to genderbend, which i have no idea how to deal with. might be connected with jesus/ihvh, who i tend to avoid for reasons of neatness (too much socialized baggage). i dont really work with abraxas, although ive just thought of something to say.

i have an interest in a number of other deities, but have not worked with them directly. and there are quite a few more with whom i have had casual acquaintance, and a few who spoke to me when i wasnt listening. writing this post has led me to realize just how many gods i have encountered.

mostly i work in some kind of animistic mindset, rather than with pantheons. 'reality-mapping' is big as well, especially numerological: from daoist dualism to qabalistic polyphony. i have vague ideas of angels (entities who exist for my benefit) in my maps, and vague ideas of *something* who doesnt hold truck with my maps at all.

at risk of broadening the question, my relationships with the above gods are similar to my relationships with certain animals. my mothers family seems to have a thing for bald eagles, and they were strongly with me in my childhood (i live on vancouver island, probably the densest habitat of bald eagles in the world). since then, ive become more attached to gryphons (on my way to dragons, maybe), but its harder to receive messages from them for obvious reasons. bald eagles still appear conspicuously whenever a family member dies. but they show up often enough otherwise that they havent become an ill omen.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
22:46 / 08.11.04
Who are my gods? Well, I've been doing some work with the Olympians lately, but I'm wary of contacting them without the proper sacrafices (pouring libations at the very least), and at least some work in crafting the prayer in Ancient Greek.

As a geek, and nominally chaos-type-guy, I've also been doing a lot of work through superheroes, most specifically Jenny Sparks (I feel a lot of resonance for her, dunno why), Starman, Green Lantern, Mister Terrific, and the Flash (as Jay Garrick).

Of course, there's Gek, and a number of little household gods that I have that inhabit various things (my swords, a pair of small stone gargoyles I have, a Summer Fun Cthulhu, a teddy bear, etc.). I've been pondering also offering them libations and minor sacrafices as well, maybe of incense and something to annoint them with.
 
 
Sean the frumious Bandersnatch
00:53 / 09.11.04
By trying to get on with a whole pantheon, we endeavour to become better rounded, more versatile, and more adaptable human beings.

If you can approach a God that is distant, aggressive, even hostile to you and what it thinks you are about, and manage to find some common ground with that God, build a bridge between you...


This is actually pretty similar to what I'm attempting to do now- approach Ganesh through his Shiva. Since Shiva is, in a way, a combination of my main gods Odin (destructive, secretive) and Jesus (healing, revelatory), and as all three are gods of death/rebirth, I think this could give me an easy "in" to the Hindu pantheon.

And no, I don't know why I want a relationship with Ganesh so much. I guess, as a god of overcoming obstacles, he just seems to give the best gifts.

By the way, Bard...are we thinking of the same Mister Terrific? The "FAIR PLAY" guy?
That's bad juju, man... even worse than s.h.e.r.m.a.n.'s dealings with Loki.
 
 
Tamayyurt
00:54 / 09.11.04
For the past 5 years my god has been Thoth. I've worked with him almost daily in a hypersigil and my life has changed (for the better) drastically:



Do you have a living relationship with any of the pantheon you have described? Do they push you and test you? Turn up in your life and speak to you? Wake you up screaming at 4 in the morning?

Thoth appears to me in dreams or in the flesh all the time. I live on a lake (in Florida) and there's a flock of ibises that I feed regularly. I have a modernized version of his hieroglyphic name tattooed on my arm. When I pray it's usually to Thoth and when shit gets bad offering of incense and ink are always on hand. When I go abroad I notice him watching over me. I even ran into him in Central Park last Dec.

And like Chad, I'm probably just asking to get attacked by the Cultural Appropriation Patrol but this is the relationship that I've developed over the years with Thoth and it seems to work for the both of us.
 
 
LVX23
05:19 / 09.11.04
Fuck the CAP, man. It's a new aeon! If it's meanigful to you, makes you a better person, and helps you help the rest of the world, then motherfucking appropriate.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
06:42 / 09.11.04
By the way, Bard...are we thinking of the same Mister Terrific? The "FAIR PLAY" guy?
That's bad juju, man... even worse than s.h.e.r.m.a.n.'s dealings with Loki.


Err...could you explain further?

I see Mister Terrific and Batman as two sides of the coin, in the archetypal sense.

Batman is the grim faced servant of justice, the judge who obeys the letter of the law, the detective who sees the criminal's black and the law's white. Batman perserveres, he thinks and fights his way through obstacles and ineveitably comes out on the other side. He is the human being made into and instrument of Justice.

Mister Terrific, on the other hand, is the representation of the phrase "be all that you can be". He has reached the level of human achievement and perfection wherein he realizes his own innate weakness, and the weakness of society. He does not posess the power to change the world macroscopically, but focuses on changing the world in the lives of those around him, bettering others as he has himself been bettered. This humanized view makes him weaker in the face of problems than the Batman, but his path is tempered with compassion.

...and looking at what I've written, I'm always amazed at how philosophical I get at 4am.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
08:19 / 09.11.04
Personally I prefer the idea of a pantheon over monotheism if you're gonna deal with gods at all. Why stick yourself to just one boring old god when you can have one for every occasion?

Call me a greedy occult fencesitter if you will, but I like polytheism and monotheism. I see no reason not to have a multiplicity of Gods and Goddesses that represent different aspects of reality, and a single concept of God which is the sum total of the universe expressed as divinity.
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
08:50 / 09.11.04
My personal guardian angel is VOLTRON, and I believe my patron god to be Coyote in his pop culture guise as SNOOPY.

Yeah, that sounded about as silly as I expected it to.

/+,
 
 
benj
08:50 / 09.11.04
I've always had a fondness for Loki.
Don't know if he always has a fondness for me though...
 
 
Z. deScathach
10:44 / 09.11.04
First of all, thanks for the link to the site. I've never been so simultaneously amused and terrified at the same time.... Firstly, I do not believe in antecedent gods. I see them as martices of.... oh crap, I don't know WHAT they are matrices of, but I believe that they are by-products of human consciousness, at least in this neck of the woods. I'm fond of the (mythological charcter, goddess?), Scathach, as she embodies my interest in the fighting arts, as well as my interest in magick, hence my online name. Truthfully, I don't work very often with deities, although I used to more often some years ago. I have worked with fictitional characters, but I try to work with them when they are being heavily "fed". Still, I keep telling myself that working with archtypical force is impersonal, and it would be nice to have something to talk to. Maybe I'll work with more in the future. Do I actually fully invoke Scathach and turn myself over to her? Hell no. She was said to either train you to warriorhood or death. Lack of self-confidence I suppose......
 
 
Tamayyurt
11:41 / 09.11.04
Vlad- No, it doesn't. I like Voltron and Snoopy!
 
 
Sean the frumious Bandersnatch
12:03 / 09.11.04
Okay, Bard, you win. That actually made a lot of sense.

I always thought of Mister Terrific as a joke character, but... "He has reached the level of human achievement and perfection wherein he realizes his own innate weakness, and the weakness of society. He does not posess the power to change the world macroscopically, but focuses on changing the world in the lives of those around him, bettering others as he has himself been bettered."
...sounds pretty cool, I must admit.

(And, since you ask, what I meant when I said that dealing with Mister Terrific was "bad juju" was that, y'know...he's dead. He died. To me, that's necromancy. Hence, bad juju.)
 
 
macrophage
13:28 / 09.11.04
Baphomet for sheer power and for reading the Tarot. I have used Kali and Ganesh and Hannuman (though by the sheer brilliance of watching "Monkey" one can tap into that cheeky chaos-monkey trickster spirit vibe) on occasions. I have started using Eris again - a reroute to all things discordian and debased. Sometimes Mercury. Some godforms we discard after a while and then pick up again when we desire those qualities. For the thread qustion I would say make up your own godform they are far more creative, I have an entity that is sort of Venusian in qualities and shares Air and Watery qualities - I may elevate her to godform status eventually. I find new gods exquisite and I have often glimpsed K'aa'tas but he hasn't gave me any big favours my way yet - ah lust of desire! Morphing old gods with current images is the best yet. I need a Jupiterian god to play with though I'm not sure of anything like what has been said before. I sometimes slay my gods and go through a phase of non - worship thus opposite doing and then come back to them. It was through Wotan that I got my current goddess in waiting. Ah the path of non-doing of the drunken monkey sage (think Virtua Fighter), I could go on for hours. Super Mario makes an excellent Mercury how blasphemous is that?
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
14:14 / 09.11.04
Macrophage, to say I passionately disagree with every single word you've just written would be an understatement.
 
 
Sekhmet
14:14 / 09.11.04
Hmm. I have great interest in a number of deities, but no working relationship with any. I'd like to - I think - but thus far I've been held back by my own fear and reluctance... I have hangups about "religion" and belief, control issues, and blatant cowardice to overcome first.

That said, the deities that most interest me include the Norse pantheon, particularly Odin, Sif, Tyr, and Freya; Ganesha, Shiva, and Kali; certain Celtic figures such as Mebd, Macha, Epona, Gwion/Taliesin, Scathach, and Cuchulainn; and some of the Voudoun lwa, especially Ghede, Erzuli and Legba.

But I'm not about to go messing around with any of them until I'm quite sure I know what I'm doing, and I'm not a huge fan of the "mix-n-match pantheon" approach. The closest I've come to actual contact with any gods are some encounters with Norse deities in dreams (Odin, Sif and Loki), and lots of niggling hints that I should be doing more with those folks in particular. So if and when I start working with deities, I rather expect to be functioning in a Norse or Norse-Celtic context. (That's my family heritage anyway, so there are also fewer "appropriation" issues there.)

Have to get a good working relationship with myself first.
 
 
charrellz
14:32 / 09.11.04
I've always had a fondness for Loki.
Don't know if he always has a fondness for me though...

Not to be anti-Loki in any way, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a fondness for anyone, except maybe whoever he's shacking up with these days - not to degrade his love interests or anything (please don't hurt me Loki ).

He died. To me, that's necromancy. Hence, bad juju.
Superman died but alot of people still work with him. Hell, Jesus and Buddha died. Is dealing with dead people always necromancy?
What about cultures involved with ancestor worship? It may be necromancy, but is it still bad juju? (Not trying to nitpick by the way, just got some ideas and a little out of it from giving blood on an empty stomach 10min ago)
 
 
Chiropteran
15:17 / 09.11.04
Not to be anti-Loki in any way, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a fondness for anyone, except maybe whoever he's shacking up with these days - not to degrade his love interests or anything (please don't hurt me Loki ).

Hey, my wife's one of Loki's love interests! And he seems to like her just fine. (Seriously.)

The bigger-than-me spiritual power that I have spent the most time and energy building a relationship with is the being that I call Papa Legba, though there is some ambiguity still as to whether this is Legba, Ellegua, Eshu-Ellegbara, Exu, or some other ("higher"?) power that wears each of the others as "his" faces - there is serious disagreement between and among the various religions that recognize this figure, and the being I call Papa seems to have tastes and habits that "come from" several different cultures. In fact, this type of ambiguity is particularly resonant with the Old World "faces," where his status as a Trickster is especially pronounced... As it is, I'm happy to serve as well as I am able (or can figure out), and he seems to be happy to respond to "Papa Legba," though my images and sensations of him often differ significantly from the Haitian Vodou representations of that Power.

I think I believe in one Universal underlying beingness, which my puny mortal psyche can best relate to as "female" - in other words, I recognize a Creatrix, a great and terrible Mother with 1000 Names, who is at once incomprehesibly vast and impersonal, and also a loving mother who wishes the best for her children. I'm not sure how I reconcile that, but I seem to have done, through a blend of faith and experience.

Broadly, I'm something of an animist, so my everyday life is filled with minor recognitions, deals, tributes, and negotiations with local spirits. Not necessarily "gods" in the sense the word is usually used, but still part of my spiritual life.

~L
 
 
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16:01 / 09.11.04
Although, being a Gnostic, I tend to think of there being one highest god (The Alien God, the Plemora, whatever you wish to call it) I still do pray and work with a variety of gods. I can't say I'm quite sure what these gods exactly are (entities formed from the collective unconsciousness?), I still find them very fascinating. Sometimes I like to think of them as frequencies or wavelenghts, and every individual can tune into them, to some extent.

In a way, I like to think of the pantheon of gods I worship as some sort of super-team, each member having their own sort of super-power(s). Being a dork I tend to look to things like comics and such to inform my technique. Now, when Commissioner Gordan in "Batman" had a problem too big to face on his own he evoked Batman by launching a giant sigil into the sky (the bat logo, in this case). In real life when I'm faced with a problem too big for me to face alone I visualize myself casting off this beam of light into the sky with the appropriate sigil/mandala/image to inform a particular god/goddess that I'm in need of their talents. In return for these favors I supply them with worship, prayer, devotion, and earthly things.

In my bedroom I've recently converted one of my bookshelves into sort of a shrine/occult power station. This shrine was created for the harvesting of otherworldy energies and as a place of worship for gods of my pantheon... A miniature church, you could call it. On the floor of the shelf I placed objects that were meant to represent sigils of the god/goddess (kind of like the sigil gallery of The Endless in "The Sandman"). For example, I have a statue of Bast, a little Ganesh "monster-in-my-pocket" toy perched atop a Lego alter, various pictures of the gods, etc. Sometimes when I wish to speak to these gods and give them the grandness they deserve I place a Lego version of myself before the God I wish to speak to and carry on a conversation in this manner.

Brief comments on my working relationship with some of these entities:

PAN

One of the first gods who caught my attention. When I was a child I loved reading about Greek mythology and Pan was a favorite. Years later reading the writings of William S. Burroughs my interest was revived in him. I don't have a statue of Pan so instead I represent him with a pan flute I purchased many years ago. Truth be told, ever since a bizarre invocation I haven't worked with him in awhile, mainly because I'm not sure what to even offer him... What do you give to the God that is everything?

GANESH

Ganesh has always been a fave. Not only is he the destroyer of obstacles but he's also the god of scribes and writing, so every Sunday I leave an offering of sweets on his alter. I then eat the previous weeks sweets, imagining a bit of Ganesh's powers having been inserted in them via bathing in his radient glow. I do this to help my writing.

BAST

Another god who I'm still trying to figure out what I can best offer her, I like Bast a lot and spend alot of time thinking of her. To remind myself of her many aspects behind the Bast statue I've posted two pictures: One is a panel of how she appeared in "Sandman", while the other is a picture of Tinker, the vicious technologically enhanced battle cat from GM's new "We3" series. On one hand Bast is the protector of cats and fun-loving, but she can also be seen as the ruthless, warrior-like protector of the Pharoahs. Someone you want to have on your side, in other words.

ERIS

I like discordianism to a small extent and Eris has always had a fascination to me. About a week or so after building my shrine and decorating it I got into a car accident. Either Eris wanted to throw a bit of chaos into my life, or she was having a diva-like fit that I had neglected to include her in the shrine. I've actually been working with her quite a bit recently, as I try to become less of a control freak.

HYPNOS

Greek god of sleep, whenever I'm having trouble sleeping I'll call on Hypnos for help.

MACHA

Another greek god, I mainly like Macha because I like crows. I don't call on her very often because I haven't found much information on her, but I've had some very odd experiences with crows.

THE FABULOUS MR. MEANINGLESS

Serving the same function as to me as Black Eagle did to Zos, the Fab Mr. Meaningless is an oracle and (I think) one of Eris' children. Another chaos aspect. I've been trying to assimilate him into myself as of recently.

Besides these gods my shrine is also decorated with photos of real-life people who have attained mythic-like status in my eyes, at least: Dali, WSB, and various others.

What I'm trying to do now is see how these relationships develop and I'm also trying to learn how to speak their language... You know, I'm not into all that astral stuff so the way in which they communicate to me is very subtle at times. I always have to be paying attention to try to figure out when they're trying to get in touch with me.
 
 
Sekhmet
18:24 / 09.11.04
At the risk of looking like a total dork, I forgot to mention Sekhmet (super-duh).

And I guess it's telling that I'm somewhat worried about her getting upset about being a postscript.

Sorry.
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
19:32 / 09.11.04
The lad done impulsed: I like Voltron and Snoopy!

"Liking" and "choosing for one's personal spirit totems" are two different things. I can defend these choices, mind you, but nevertheless they sound a bit lightweight in the company of much older aspects.

Voltron has within him imagery from a variety of faiths like Christianity, paganism, the Greek pantheon, Ba'hai, Hinduism, Rastafari, alchemy, Druidism and more. His spirit animals are lions, so you can think of him as a counterpart to one of the archangels, especially with the blazing sword at the ready.

Snoopy is definitely a trickster figure, much like Loki, Br'er Rabbit and Coyote. He assumes multiple personalities, completely investing himself in them, to the extent that the neighborhood kids get sucked into his fantasies. Does he really have van Goghs and a pool table in his doghouse? Is his doghouse actually a plane? How does a pair of sunglasses and a sweatshirt transform him into Joe Cool, and how in the hell do the Peanuts gang recognize him as such when they can't even "hear" him? Somehow, he creates his own reality; we just live in it. The VJB2 fictionsuit is patterned after this. It is no coincidence that the Snoopy doll I've owned since I was 2 is called "Junior," though I did not consciously think of it during the process that created the VJB2 ficsuit.

There. Does that sound a little less silly now? Or perhaps more so?

/+,
 
 
Tamayyurt
20:21 / 09.11.04
"Liking" and "choosing for one's personal spirit totems" are two different things. I can defend these choices, mind you, but nevertheless they sound a bit lightweight in the company of much older aspects.

But you kinda contradict yourself by saying they're new (lightweight) and then connecting them or reveling them to be aspects of older godforms. It's not silly at all. You're just working with newer "masks" the old gods wearing these days.
 
 
not-so-deadly netshade
00:19 / 11.11.04
Vlad, it sounds like your relationship with Snoopy is VERY much like mine with Felix The Cat...

I've never given a tremendous amount of thought to a personal pantheon, but this thread has got my head buzzing. I've always felt a particularly strong affinity for Hermes, but I've never explored it. Maybe I should...
 
 
vajramukti
01:44 / 11.11.04


oaky I'll have a bit of fun with this


Gotama the Buddha

Now despite the fact that i am a buddhist, i've generally ragarded the buddha as more of a senior faculty member or textbook author who just happens to have been been for two thousand years. although recently I've found myself connecting to him as particualr achetype. Gotama the seeker, the quintissential searcher for truth, the one who goes forth on behalf of all beings to seek the solution to human sorrow. He is the part of us all that goes into the darkness, and finally ultimately achieves the goal. he is the one who in the end truly comes home.


Superman. now the fun part. what can i say? i've found that superman actually taps into the same feeling I find that i have for jesus, and considering that i believed in supes long beofre i believed in christ, I imagine the former is the template for the latter and not the other way around.
Superman is love as a force of nature. selfless compassion, kindness and mercy. he is the power of love as intercessor, a living miracle. no matter what happens, superman is there to catch you if you fuck up. we made Him to save us all. I still get tears in my eyes when i hear the theme music for the superman films. damn.


and finally:

Jim Morrison/the Lizard King/Mr. Mojo Risin/Lux
Having read more than one biography of Jim and members of the doors, it's pretty clear Jim was posessed by a force that he couldn't adequately contain. his offstage persona is a shocking contrast to the force he emanated onstage. there are instances, several in fact of him being too drunk to stand or even speak, and yet still turning in flawless performances onstage. He drank to escape the pressures of that persona, the palpable aura of sex and death and chaos, the hypnotic serpent power that shook the america of the time. outside of that he was an erratic alchoholic clown, and sensitive poet, with little of the gravitas of the Lizard King

i often find myself to be a little too regimented, and considering the fact that I'm straightedge all the way, I feel pretty secure invoking the sexual and psychic power of Jim to tap into unexplored depths and otherwise get my mojo on. If the buddha guides my spirit into perfect emptiness, Jim is the organic will of the dna double serpent, and it's insatiable erotic creativity.

an ancillairy aspect is Jim in his manifestion as david cambridge/lux in the zenith books of grant morrison. here we have the Jim figure maturing into the superhuman horus child, inaugurating the new aeon in comic form, mutating the sexual power into physical power, burning the old world to ashes to make way for posthuman freedom.
 
 
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05:14 / 11.11.04
Right now it's Asushunamir. If te isn't the very embodiment of love, I don't know what god is. After all, Asushunamir walked through the Nine Gates of the Underworld, cozied up to Ereshkigal, and got her drunk/starry-eyed enough to steal the friggin Water of Life for Ereshkigal's prisoner, Inanna-- who I hear is kind of a big shot in some pantheons. Te got cursed for it big time and Inanna's compensation was sort of lame, so I figure te's got some powerful good karma coming to ta any day now. Anyway I've always been a sucker for a tearjerker self-sacrifice story, so I'll lend ta my belief and worship.

Asushunamir is the one to call on if you have to get out of an impossible situation and you absolutely need a deus ex machina to do it, whether the situation is practical or spiritual/emotional. Just bear in mind you'll probably end up repaying the favor to another in need-- possibly to Asushunamir taself. If you don't have the courage to look Ereshkigal in the eye again for someone else's sake-- well, if you really need Asushunamir's help, you'll find that courage when the time comes, that's all.
 
 
Unconditional Love
12:38 / 11.11.04
shiva.
 
  

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