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A fresh topic. Love.

 
  

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Papess
14:28 / 26.10.04
Passion is great. Love on the other hand, in order to endure past the short lived flames of passion, actually takes work. Albeit, a labour of love.

Love isn't free. Ever. Wahtever were those hippies on about?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
16:10 / 26.10.04
About 650mg of acid, usually...
 
 
Lilly Nowhere Late
18:04 / 26.10.04
I'm here to tell you passion ain't no freebie either. But it is great. So is love. So is fire.

What happened to xxsarahxx?
 
 
unheimlich manoeuvre
18:14 / 26.10.04
ze burned out, rather than faded away.
 
 
Studygirltash
15:41 / 28.10.04
Sometimes you come to the rather painful realisation that Lennon and Virgil were wrong. Love ISNT all that you need and love CANT conquer (sp?) all. I have just come to this awareness, causing much pain to myself and someone else. The saddest and most painful part is that I know that my realisation is causing him to hurt which is something that I never wanted to do, ever. He made me special and loved me in a way that no one has ever done before. *sniff* I will always love him but its not enough.
 
 
ibis the being
16:13 / 28.10.04
loved me in a way that no one has ever done before.

God, I have a filthy imagination. I'll leave it at that.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
23:01 / 28.10.04
Studygirltash: On the plus side, Virgil has an awful lot else to say about love, a lot of which you might find more comforting than that one line. For that matter, can I recommend, as I will whenever possible, Propertius? His Odes cover the action of obsessive and romantic love, but also show how a human being can focus on other matters, can develop and grow, even when that person's love returns from the grave to upbraid them for their recovery.

Which is sort of the point. Now, to return to Virgil, after the plaintive "omnia vincit amor; nos cedamus amori", he, addressing the lovesick poet Gallus, says:

Gallo, cuius amor tantum mihi crescit in horas,
quantum vere novo viridis se subicit alnus.
Surgamus; solet esse gravis cantantibus umbra;
iuniperi gravis umbra; nocent et frugibus umbrae.



Which, if you'll forgive me my poor and drunken translation, means (approximately)

For Gallus, for whom my love grows such in time,
as the the alder sinks itself beneath green shoots
every new Spring, I say "let us arise".
The shade has never been
but sorrowful for those who sing;
this heavy juniper shade.
These shadows hurt the crops as well.

I have no doubt that somebody will come up with a better translation, but the point is that Gallus is experiencing love in a very specific way - the love he feels is a military force to match his own military service, a conqueror that he has to submit to, as do all things. But, if you throw yourself into the cold shadow of a hopeless love, you will wither. You have to stand, and grow, and let new feelings take you back to life. Virgil never thought that love conquers all - he knew that the kind of love Gallus was struck by was powerful and all-consuming, and, in the end, didn't stop the goats needing somebody to drive them home, or somebody to make the crops grow...
 
 
Studygirltash
18:52 / 29.10.04
Haus keys: You have no idea how great it was to read that a moment ago. Thanks.
 
 
xxsarahxx
22:09 / 29.10.04
i've pretty much left you all wondering for a while, and this has inspirated me further. and i have loved reading all your thoughts. its quite hard to explain what i mean. but i go to a drama glass and was asked to think of a quote which kind of explains something that has effected me. so i thought recently love has, so i began wondering and thought hmmm 'this guy' well he was my friend, he came to see my for my friendship and support but it turned out he left with my love accidently. thank god. so i thought i would use a metaphor for love, so i chose fire. because when im with 'the guy' he makes me feel fiery, so its kinda a old friendship, new firey love. let me know if you get what i mean. xxsarahxx
 
 
Mourne Kransky
00:56 / 30.10.04
Männer umschwill' mich wie Motten um das Licht
Und wenn sie verbrenne denn dafür kann Ich nicht
 
 
unheimlich manoeuvre
16:48 / 30.10.04
Ich bin von Kopf bis Fuss?
 
  

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