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Peace Mango on the loose

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09:37 / 19.11.01

you could post a link to this thread up in the conversation, asking all those people (who don't come to the magick) with blogs and websites to post up the image on them....that way lots of people will see it....

of course, there is the risk that too many hits will cause the page to vanish, so maybe a few people should host it at the same time to save may's site from collapse?

09:37 / 19.11.01

oh, and maybe tom could put it up on the barbelith front page with a note about what it is, for that day?

16:46 / 19.11.01

yes I haven't studied this thread as avidly as I might and yes I will help on the 30th.

Paxxy just popped into my head. the root, Pax, means peace. also the name of a US christian cable station.

17:05 / 19.11.01

No worries, Ria!
The original thread got eaten so this thread doesn't have all the content posted. We all kinda started where we left off.
Thanks again to Ierne for continuing this thread.

I now know what Pax means, Thank you Ria.

-May

19:59 / 19.11.01

Anyone from the Barbejam thread in the Gathering reading this?

want us to transmute it into music for inspiration through the vibration to the virtual nation?

Say the word.

20:15 / 19.11.01

Flameon, just one question:
Anyone from the what, at the when, to do what and how to who????

Duhhhh...
-May Tricks
Please be kind enough to explain your last post. You've got my attention!

20:31 / 19.11.01

we can get musicians together and make a tune out of the peace mango. Transmutation. We can take the rhythms of the words you've used in creating it and its form and colour and make it into music to spread out to people via free mp3 sites and such. If most of the people on Barbelith listen to it, it'll shoot far up enough the site charts that it'll get a chunk of free exposure, so at least a few thousand people will listen to it and look at the image while it's playing. Hopefully we'll get a few people together and collaborate on the track in sync with the pure magick types.

Sound good?

22:27 / 19.11.01

Oh Yeah Baby!!!!

I love it!
How do we achieve this? Can I do anything?

-May Tricks

07:31 / 20.11.01

Just do your thing exactly as you planned to... the Peace Mango vibration will connect us all up in our various activities and everything should fit together nice and smooth...

10:10 / 20.11.01

I've been thinking about this a bit recently. Hope no one minds the novice putting in a few words of potential caution.

From what little I know about these matters, it seems likely (although not definite - I reiterate, take this as the post of a know-nothing) that there are a few spiritual nasties who are profiting from recent world events (if not potentialy directly involved in some way). By launching the Transducer we may risk drawing their attention, as its purpose may be in direct conflict with theirs. This may not only entail a risk to the servitor, but also to those involved in charging.

I'm just wanting to make sure all this is safe for everyone concerned. Have precautions been taken in its programming? Do we want to ensure that only those consenting in its charging have access to the sigil? Is it worth an experienced person sounding out the climat into which we're releasing the servitor? Is it worth specifying a small region outside of the main conflict for the servitor to build strength, so we can ease it into the larger picture in stages?

I still love this idea, and I think it has definite potential. I just want a bit more info before signing on wholeheartedly. Although it's a peaceful, well intentioned project it is definitely an act of aggression against beings that may have other motivations.

If there's any way I can help in this, please let me know. I'll be part of the Barbejam stuff anyway, but I'm happy to assist in other ways as well.

10:46 / 20.11.01

One in the morning sounds fine - I'm sure I can arrange a night out with some mates to provide a decent crescendo to lead to the charging. Possibly even charge the thing in a nightclub - <50s Brit>that'd cause a stir!</50s Brit>

As regards alerting the nasties, I've been doing a little stuff related to this situation myself, and I've found it best to assume that they know what I'm doing anyway - and to <macho guy> deploy my full arsenal of protective countermeasures</macho guy> in response. So basically, yes, we should go ahead with the Mango, but just make sure we all have our banishings done beforehand, and call in any favours we're owed from the egregores...

I mean, it's worked for me so far...Oh my god, no!

10:48 / 20.11.01

These are valid concerns expressionless. I don't have all the answers so perhaps the group can come up with something.

Originally posted by expressionless:
quote: Is it worth specifying a small region outside of the main conflict for the servitor to build strength, so we can ease it into the larger picture in stages?

I think this is an excellent precautionary step and then perhaps we can release fully on Dec. 14th when there is an eclipse.

I am not sure how to proceed ritually with this new consideration. Please, I implore the more experienced to help in the execution of this working.

Does anyone else have concerns? I would like to say that nothing comes without a bit of sacrifice. I have already felt the effects of this development. Little and unusual obstacles have been constantly impeding me since I began this. I accept this as part of the "price of doing business". I call on other supports to help with these troubles. (I'd like to add that Gek is already giving me a hand.)
Of course, we don't want anyone getting themselves nailed to a cross over this.(I hate it when they do that!) There is alot to consider here but I am hoping it won't paralyze us.

-May Tricks

P.S: I really like a macho guy Velvet and your "devil may care" attitude.

[ 20-11-2001: Message edited by: May Tricks ]

11:51 / 20.11.01

I'd second what velvetvandal said. When I went to NYC in late September, I had several encounters with a seriously nasty piece of ethereal yuk, which tried to stomp my brain after I returned home. Very much not good. Nosebleed material. I beat it though- you've just gotta make like a mango and eat the demons and transform them in the light of your consciousness.

IMHO, backlash is pretty much inevitable when you deal with world events. If you're prepared to stand up for what you believe in you're almost certain to come up against someone or something that opposes your cause, magic or no magic. If I've been following this right, the servitor is designed to absorb darkness and hate and transform it into love and light. So you got that on your side. You also have all your regular allies, your inner strength, and a whole bunch of fellow fingerwigglers on this board to help.

As for the servitor being co-opted by the Forces of Nastiness... that's equally true of anything one might use in seeking peace. Witness the way in which Sunday's peace demo in London brought the right-wingers and hawks out of the woodwork and onto the letters pages of the newspapers.

11:52 / 20.11.01

Something is telling me to drink coffee before I post...However, I've not finished my tea. So here goes...

I agree that expressionless makes valid points. But I also think that the keynote here is PEACE. (not MANGO

even though I asked the bartender last night, if I came over with a can of Mango nectar on the 30th, would she make me a cocktail?). This is a pacifist working and it's meant to do its job through pacifist means. We are using water (um, nectar??) to fight fire, not fire with fire.

That at least is my understanding.

When I went to NYC in late September, I had several encounters with a seriously nasty piece of ethereal yuk, which tried to stomp my brain after I returned home. Very much not good. Nosebleed material. – Flame On

Flame On – more like Spot On. NYC is full of bad vibes these days. But I can't let that stop me from getting on with my life, and I won't let it stop me from doing this.

[ 20-11-2001: Message edited by: Ierne ]

16:09 / 20.11.01

OK - with this in mind, I'm in. I just suggest being extremely careful. Exactly how large a scale are we talking here - and has anyone worked on this large a scale before?

16:47 / 20.11.01

Man o man...
May-I'm sooooo sorry I have fallen behind on this.
What can I do to help??
REX

p.s. and you say I am hard to ignore? You've made quite an impact on Barbelith...keep it up!!

17:22 / 20.11.01

<yoda>Size only in your mind is.</yoda>

Would I be right in assuming that because we're using the Net for dissemination of the sigil the scale is global? I mean, we're talking world peace here... let's not kid around. But your caution is well advised.

Remember all you're talking about is an act of creativity. If you're worried about payback, be sure to invest this act with plenty of love... no anger, no fear, no paranoia. Even so the consequences could be enormous. After all, it may work.

18:17 / 20.11.01

Right On ! FlameOn! Let's keep this positive ...an act of love.

Oh yeah, thank you Rex

. You make me blush. This is the effort of many and your input would be appreciated. Please read the past posts on this thread and if there is something you can add, please do!

Expressionles: I have worked on this large a scale before using eastern methods. One practise I would like to share is very simple but very similar to the nature of Transducer. It is a breathing exercise where you breathe in evil and negativity as black smoke and/or pus. On the exhale, breathe out white light. This exercise is"Sending and Taking". The Transducer is like a perpetual sender and taker.

-May Tricks

[ 20-11-2001: Message edited by: May Tricks ]

Mirakel Dreamer

09:29 / 21.11.01

Might I be so bold as to suggest in response to...

"of course, there is the risk that too many hits will cause the page to vanish, so maybe a few people should host it at the same time to save may's site from collapse?"

...that it be hosted on my personal server? If I can help, please let me know, I think it is a wonderful thing you are doing here, keep it up!!

Mirakel

[ 21-11-2001: Message edited by: Mirakel Dreamer ]

09:29 / 21.11.01

Mirakel,
A very kind and generous offer. I am no Techie-type so, if you ask the others what they want done I am sure they will be glad to work with you.

If you need anything from me, send me a private message. I will be glad to help.

-May Tricks

[ 21-11-2001: Message edited by: May Tricks ]

09:29 / 21.11.01

count me in on all of this and may, good work. e-mail me a copy of the love mango so i can make some posters and throw a love party to charge that puppy up. allso i think if you e-mail your friends and this go's for every one the mango tell thim it's the new peace sysmbol or wuht not. get this to as meny people as possible.

love is in the air and there are flowers every where

09:29 / 21.11.01

If it turns negative vibes into positive vibes, what does it do to positive vibes?

09:29 / 21.11.01

quote:Originally posted by grant:
If it turns negative vibes into positive vibes, what does it do to positive vibes?

I would guess the Transducer would only enhance them.

-May

09:29 / 21.11.01

Um, what does a plant do to oxygen?

Anyway, about the nasties making war. pfffft, nothing a few sigils couldn't fix.

Oh and for those of you who asked for *WORLD PEACE* in the "Whishes Granted Here" thread, Gek says, "I told you so."

09:29 / 21.11.01

As regards trying the Mango out on a smaller scale first and then going full-on in December, my instincts say no...Impetuous as it may sound, I think we need to just go ahead with it to sustain the momentum.

And an element of risk would probably add to the charge.

09:29 / 21.11.01

quote:Originally posted by impulsivelad:
Oh and for those of you who asked for *WORLD PEACE* in the "Whishes Granted Here" thread, Gek says, "I told you so."

Wow!,does this mean that Gek and newly formed Transducer are in cahoots??

Also, I would like to add that Transducer has discriminating ablility. Evil or negative vibes are what s/he seeks out to ingest and transform.

-May Tricks

[ 21-11-2001: Message edited by: May Tricks ]

10:04 / 21.11.01

quote:Originally posted by velvetvandal:
As regards trying the Mango out on a smaller scale first and then going full-on in December, my instincts say no...Impetuous as it may sound, I think we need to just go ahead with it to sustain the momentum.

And an element of risk would probably add to the charge.

I believe you have something here. Intensity is very important. If the world was peaceful we wouldn't need to do this.

-May Tricks

Mordant Carnival

19:01 / 21.11.01

The initial idea behind the Transducer just comes from various electronic componants/systems that turn one form of energy into another, but I like the idea of tweaking it so it can make use of positive energy too. How about an adjustment that would allow it to use positive energy to grow and/or replicate?

19:22 / 21.11.01

may e-mail me a copy of the mango. i need to make copy's and pass thim out

send me the mango may , send me the mango

21:07 / 21.11.01

cat, the latest graphic was in page 1 of this thread.

[edit- whole brain full of Mango Music Juice. It's gonna be a good one, I can feel it. Anyone in London want to join me nov 30 to make the tune?]

[ 23-11-2001: Message edited by: Flame On ]

Rex City-zen

16:04 / 23.11.01

Peace Mango Rocks!

We do have issues to discuss though. True, it is all well and good to devote our energies to such a worthwhile cause but, as expressionless pointed out, and I'm sure most of you are aware, there are entities out there who could benefit from such a massive outpouring of etheric force.
Thus,we come to the chaos magicians worst nightmare : order.
We, as a collective must now decide how we will go about charging the sigil and how we will protect ourselves and our working from malevolent outside forces.
SO: 1. How will we charge the sigil? Should we perform specific acts of power at the appointed time or one unified act (a la global orgasm day)
2. What steps do we take to protect?

Remember we have less than a week to get our shit together.
Do remember- anything is possible.

Mordant Carnival

17:06 / 23.11.01

I have absolutely no meaningful input at present- I just wanted to reiterate that this whole project is just toooooo cool. Thanx, May!

Temple Goddess

23:53 / 24.11.01

I am still new to this board but this is up my alley. I plan on joining in if I may help to charge up the peace sigil. This is cool

The Sinister Haiku Bureau

11:52 / 25.11.01

I don't have much to add, so I'll try and be brief:
1. Consider me signed up for the mango-charging.
2. Any particular method of charging/ gnosis you think we should use? Wank technique? guided visualisation of some kind? breath holding? Should we all try to use the same one, or leave it to the personal tastes of the individual magickian?
3. Same as two, but regarding banishings.
4. I'm a little confused as to the exact relevance of doing it on the night of a full moon, I don't know much about the whole moon-based magick thing, but is the idea to get a moon goddess (depending on your pantheon of choice

)to help transducer out? If so, should it be done more explicitly?

12:09 / 25.11.01

kooky's making mango cocktails. i'll post up recipes if anyone else wants to make them.

i'll also link to the image on my blog, and ask other people to do it too, if you want?

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