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Creflo Dollar and World Changers Church international

 
 
diz
17:00 / 13.10.04
i was reading this article in the New Yorker about the Christian preacher and "prosperity theologian" Creflo Dollar. basically, he's set up a ministry on the model of a corporate enterprise which sort of combines a lot of black uplift thinking with evangelical Christianity, a self-help/management guru shtick, and a sort of entrepreneurial zeal. he argues essentially that faith in God requires you to change the way you think and believe in empowering yourself and becoming successful in life, which is evidenced by financial prosperity. he believes that Christianity and the Bible are like a toolkit to success for believers, and he breaks it down into self-help style multiple step programs which he promises will make you wealthy. he also draws on pop culture, specifically hip-hop, by drawing in celebrity endorsements from people like Ma$e and 50 Cent.

the first thing that struck me is that he places an awful lot of emphasis on the mystical/spiritual power of language and belief to transform everyday life. a big part of his ministry involves speaking in tongues. he also tells his followers to read specific Scripture verses aloud and to believe in their power to make them wealthy. he seems to also have techniques for breaking curses and stuff like that.

upon further investigation, it seems that a lot of other evangelicals are frothing at the mouth over his teaching that we are "small 'g' gods" and that by receiving anointing as Jesus received anointing, we can be transformed to become some sort of god/man. this puts him at odds with traditional Protestants obviously, but does put him in line with other black new religious empowerment movements like the Five Percenters.

is this guy doing what people in this forum would call magick on a massive scale or is it just me? obviously, the idea that charismatic Christian movements are magickal is nothing new, but this particular blend of several potent strains of practice is really striking to me. the combination of mass collective action, modern self-help and marketing techniques, popular religious imagery, hip-hop, the emphasis on using language and the power of spoken language, the belief in some sort of divine selfhood, and the emphasis on transforming consciousness seems deleriously potent.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
17:28 / 13.10.04
I'd like to see this become popular. I wish there were more people attempting to build their own belief structure out of different parts of widely used ideas.

I'm not sure how far it'll get though. It'll freak out the traditional protestants, I bet.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
19:03 / 13.10.04
It's an interesting subject. I'm generalising a bit here, but looking at the neo-cons in the states for example, or the likes of Blair over here, and even actually at various individuals I've met in real life, it seems to be the case that if you're the type of Christian that doesn't see your faith as an obstacle to the pursuit of power or material success, then it's not going to hurt you, let's put it that way. Particularly, it seems, if you're prepared to evangelise.
 
 
gale
19:28 / 13.10.04
I don't know of a single televangelist who doesn't want money. On the other hand, I also don't know of any (with the exception of Rev. Ike) who have ever offered to help people get money. Sounds good to me, whatever kind of magic this guy is using.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:13 / 13.10.04
The book "Conversations With God" also is a very helpful tool in looking at simple ways to create your reality, not from a Christian, but from a just plain spiritual perspective. I recommend it, if you can get past the occasional hokey moment in it.

This book points out, as does Seicho-No-Ie, an Asian spiritual movement, that yes, we all have god in us and we are gods in ourselves in that we create our own reality through our thoughts and subconscious. God gave us the power to create our reality and choose our life circumstances.

The book even evokes Grant Morrison and Alan Moore's "try to remember" [what the universe is really made of and what you truly are] by saying that in creating our own reality, we are 're-membering' - literally, trying to return to the state of being one part of the larger whole of the universe, to focus on our status as 'members' of the larger cosmos.

"Conversations with God" also puts forth the idea that our bodies were built by God to last forever (stay with me, I don't mean to sound conservative Christian, cause believe me, I'm not), and we have limited the lifespan of humanity through our self-limiting thoughts and acceptance of death (sort of like the character in that Neil Gaiman SANDMAN story who just decides he doesn't accept death and so never dies), as well as the crappy food & diet we consume, lack of exercise, polluting the environment, etc.
 
  
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