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LA's fine but it ain't home

 
 
Benny the Ball
18:14 / 04.10.04
Hello all, I'm off to LA tomorrow to see my lady love, wohoooooo!

Behave while I'm gone.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
18:17 / 04.10.04
Nobody should be allowed to say "lady love" except Steeleye Span. Make it so.
 
 
HCE
18:21 / 04.10.04
Welcome to Los Angeles.

Please note: we do not have public transportation.
 
 
pomegranate
18:47 / 04.10.04
oh, come on, sure l.a. has public transport, if you don't mind taking about three hours to get somewhere.
 
 
Fist Fun
08:32 / 05.10.04
Is that true about LA? Do you really need a car?

I am going to be spending some time there. I have never learned to drive. *gulp*
 
 
lekvar
10:15 / 05.10.04
You're gonna need a car or some really good shoes.
 
 
Fist Fun
13:54 / 05.10.04
Seriously? You absolutely need a car? Isn't there a downtown where you can live and just walk places?
 
 
HCE
17:18 / 05.10.04
You really do need a car. You could live in Silverlake and walk or ride a bike everywhere. There's a downtown but living there is quite expensive, and it's nowhere you'd want to walk much. It's the only place I've seen people smoking crack on a busy sidewalk in broad daylight.
 
 
pomegranate
17:42 / 05.10.04
yeah, seriously, you do need a car. what dwight said about silverlake is true, but it'd be super limiting. also riding yr bike in l.a. is pretty scary cos people can't drive for shit.
 
 
bitchiekittie
17:50 / 05.10.04
yeah, around this place there's no safe place for bikers, and people can't drive here, either, it drives me insane. people are always talking about how crap NY traffic is, but that's only because they've never been to b-more.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:05 / 05.10.04
Can you take taxis? Would that be a possible?
 
 
Bed Head
20:17 / 05.10.04
What about a bus? The bus in Speed seemed pretty nice, wasn’t that set in LA? Obviously, it’s only nice until the bomb and the maniac turn up, but I always figured maybe the bomb was the unrealistic bit. Until that point, all the passengers seem really friendly and chatty. Many's the time I've been on a grumpy old British bus in the morning, and wished it was the bus from Speed.
 
 
Lilly Nowhere Late
20:48 / 05.10.04
I lived in LA for 8 years with a car. My (late)spouse never drove. He did seem to get around all right, via bikes, skateboard, buses and obviously me. But he was always late. In the other sense, I mean.

I think you should learn to drive. Or get a partner who does.
LA is wonderful and charming and sublime. I miss it greatly. But part of the charm is that you can drive to the beach/mountains(with or without snow)/desert easily and all within one day if you like. Driving is essential to reach a lot of the starting points for fantastic hill walking which would make you feel you're on a Grizzly Adams set. With a car, you can do this on your lunch hour.

Just drive. If you're bad at it, no one will notice.
 
 
Ganesh
21:14 / 05.10.04
Is this thread title a Robbie Williams track?
 
 
lekvar
22:29 / 05.10.04
You could cab or buss it, in the same way you could eat a rock the size of your fist. LA is not known for its mass-transit infrastucture, it's known for sprawling highways and freeways that can take you from paradise to purgatory in less than a half-hour (barring rush-hour traffic).
 
 
HCE
23:21 / 05.10.04
Taxicabs are prohibitively expensive and can't be hailed off the street, you'd have to call ahead and wait. The bus not so bad, expect that it doesn't go where you want to go, it's slow, it's late, it runs infrequently and stops running early. Many of them are also packed and filthy.
 
 
Fist Fun
08:39 / 06.10.04
So what do people do when they go out to the disco? You must be able to get a cab home?

How much would a 20 minute cab ride cost? It would be about 15 pounds (25 dollars?) in London so expensive is relative.

I might really not enjoy this.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:14 / 06.10.04
Benny the Ball: do you understand what the internet is?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
09:17 / 06.10.04
I think the sense is that he is going to be a bit busy with the huggles to log on and make sure we're behavin'

Quick! Let's all do stuff!
 
 
HCE
20:44 / 06.10.04
Car Hire

All the major car rental agencies have offices around LAX. Drivers must be 25 years old. Weekly hire rates start at approximately $180. To rent the more exotic vehicle, call Beverly Hills Rent A Car at 310-337-1400 or visit www.bhrentacar.com. Los Angeles Rent-A-Car rents to drivers under 25. Call 310-670-9945 or click on www.la-rentacar.com.

Limousines

Chauffeur-driven cars can be booked at Chauffeurs Unlimited 800-922-8583/310-645-8711 or at www.gtesupersite.com/gotolax. L.A.Limousine has been transporting its guests in style since 1967. Call 877-449-7777/323-876-3492 or go online to www.la-limousine.com. There are scores of limousine companies operating in L.A. They can be found in both the standard and Yahoo yellow pages. The average fare is $35 an hour plus tax and 15% tip.

Taxis

The city's size makes taking a cab across town very expensive. Taxis are best utilized when traveling short distances in one area, particularly at night, when other public transportation may be infrequent. There are ten franchise taxi operators in L.A. Look for the official Los Angeles Taxicab Seal before entering any cab. You can't hail a taxi from the street but you can call or check with your hotel. All cabs have the same rate: $2 initial charge and $2 a mile.

Buses

The Big Blue Bus is a great way to see the Westside. It can take you to Venice Beach, Santa Monica Pier, shopping at Third Street Promenade and Will Rogers State Beach just for starters. Feeling even more adventurous, then take the Big Blue to downtown for stops at the Music Center, Olvera Street, Museum of Contemporary Art (MOCA), Geffen Contemporary at the MOCA and innumerable other destinations of interest. Big Blue also connects you to LAX, Santa Monica Airport, Greyhound, Union Station and all Metro Rail Lines.

Big Blue offers regular fares at $.75; students and senior fares for those 62or over are $.25. Pay only $1.75 for Line 10 and ride to downtown. Catch the bus in the Marina on Lincoln Boulevard at Fiji, Mindanao and Bali Way. Correct change is required. For more information, call 310-451-5444, Monday-Friday, 8 am till 5 pm or click on www.bigbluebus.com.

The Culver City Bus Line, the second oldest municipal line in California, began its service in 1928. It now transports 5.3 million riders on 44 buses across 25.5 square miles, encompassing the Westside communities of Marina del Rey, Venice, West Los Angeles, Westwood, Century City, Culver City, Palms, Westchester, Rancho Park and Mar Vista. You can connect to the MTA Green Line and Santa Monica Blue Bus. Fares run from $.75 for adults to $.50 for students and $.35 for the disabled and seniors. For more information, see www.culvercity.org.

Dash

The Dash service, operated by LADOT, consists of a fleet of shuttle buses providing inexpensive public transportation in downtown L.A., Hollywood, the Westside, Venice and the Valley. The fare is only $.25. Click www.ladottransit.com or call 213-808-2273.

The MTA

The MTA oversees 200 metro bus lines and three metro rail lines. The Metro Blue Line runs north and south between Long Beach and Los Angeles and will soon extend to Pasadena. It crosses the Green Line connecting Norwalk and LAX. The Red Line meets the Blue Line in Los Angeles and provides service through downtown, Union Station, Mid-Wilshire, Hollywood and San Fernando. The closest rail stations to Marina del Rey are the El Segundo/Nash, 2226 E. El Segundo Boulevard, El Segundo and Aviation, 11500 Aviation Boulevard, Los Angeles. MTA buses can get you almost anywhere. The standard fare for bus or train is $1.35 and transfers are $.25. Correct change is required. For more information, click on www.mta.net.
 
 
lekvar
22:38 / 06.10.04
By the way, Benny, congratulations on maintaining the long-distance relationship! Keep it up and enjoy your visit!
 
 
Benny the Ball
18:25 / 15.10.04
Thank you.

Week two is spent at mom's house (house sitting, up in the hills, nice!), a place that has wireless so I'm able to jump on and send emails, check on you all etc. First week was mainly spent in Echo Park area, eating mexican and being all lovey. I'm being driven around - it's a bit of a shock being a passanger so much as I'm just getting over a pretty nasty car accident (no damage done, but as a first accident to be in, flipping over and being in the passanger seat while sparks fly in through your shattered window as the wing mirror is ground to nothing by the tarmac that is a foot away from your face, on a busy French motoway, it was pretty grim) but I'm trying not to blubber too much!

Okay enough of this, I've loving to do, good loving.
 
 
HCE
18:32 / 15.10.04
Holy smokes, glad you can still type!
 
 
grant
20:32 / 15.10.04
Have you had the brunch at Duke's on the PCH yet? It's nice there. Sometimes, you can see dolphins out of the windows.
 
 
Benny the Ball
22:52 / 15.10.04
North or south of Santa Monica? Haven't been there yet - more inland, near silverlake, so Home and Coffee something or other. Signor Fish has been a favourite so far, in Eagle Rock...fish burritos, nice.
 
 
Lilly Nowhere Late
06:34 / 17.10.04
You must head over a couple of streets to Vermont to check out FRED 62 or Loz Feliz to Mexico City. Two of my personal favourites, assuming they're stil there. I've not been for 3 long years you see...
Have you been up on Eagle Rock itself? You have to trek slightly through some back yards and waste ground but it's a worthwhile walk and cool view. I'm so jealous you are in my old stomping ground. Kiss the wind from me!
 
 
Lilly Nowhere Late
06:45 / 17.10.04
O almost forgot! On Silver Lake just down from the dog park and up from that cute little music venue I can't recall the name of is a cafe I also can't remember the name of(not sure it even has a name) which does the best breakfast on Sunday mornings. You have to like dogs of course, not to eat them, but most of the punters have their dogs with them as they've just been to or are on their way to the dog park. Which is what I used to do. Anyway, great breakfasts!
 
 
HCE
21:08 / 18.10.04
The cute little music venue is, I believe, Spaceland, and the cafe is possibly Netty's?

I tried going to Duke's for brunch this last weekend but arrived too early and went to Moonshadows instead. The food was mediocre but the view was wonderful -- a biig group of dolphins, a sea lion hanging out on an abandonded surfboard, ducks that would dip underwater and emerge again a full minute later and yards away, pelicans that would cruise very slowly and casually by, then suddenly plunge like needles, arrow-straight and extended, right into the water.

Don't know when you were last at Mexico City/Fred 62, but the food's gone quite awful, alas. The good news is that Fred (who's sold Vida as well) is opening up a new spot downtown, can't wait.
 
 
Benny the Ball
01:07 / 19.10.04
MIssed out on Netty's for Gingergrass the other day, but Netty's is on the list. Heading up to Oregon over the weekend to, gulp, meet the father. Should be nice but heading out of the LA rain to the Eugene rain, just as the sun gets back to Hollywood.

Off to El Conquistador's tonight, sounds like it should be fun. Haven't been to the rock itself, but having passed it a few times, I can't make out the eagle's profile just yet.
 
 
HCE
15:06 / 19.10.04
Why is the line at Gingergrass so long? I have no idea, the food is miserable. I apologize on behalf of the neighborhood. Good luck with the Father.
 
 
Lilly Nowhere Late
16:58 / 19.10.04
hmmm, yes it has been 4 years, this coming election time, since my last meal at Mexico City. Probably Fred 62 for that matter as well. Ah well, all good things come to an end I suppose. I imagine if I ever get back to LA I'll have to start all over with my list of favourite places to eat.
And I never knew the dog park cafe was called anything. Has it always been? O well, now I know!
What about The Dresden Room? Not for food obviously, unless you count the "cheese" lounge act extraordinaire!
 
 
Benny the Ball
02:40 / 30.10.04
Sorry to bump but...

I'm back. Had a great time, very much in love (ahhhhhhh) and just wanted to recommend a few places to anyone going to LA soon, or if local and hadn't heard of them;

Netty's is indeed fantastic, great, great food.

Signor Fish in Eagle Rock is great, and extremely cheap, the lunch time special of a taco (fish being the best) and drink for 5.50 is well worth it, and tasts great.

Floating Sushi in Pasadena old town is quite nice (on the ummm high street near Gap and opposite the Apple store, roughly)

Gardens of Taxco is fantastic, great decor, really nice food, the best menu in the world (a big, jolly man who practically sings what's available for you) and a wandering guitarist that isn't annoying. it's off of Santa Monica, on Harmond I think? (West of La Brea).

Home is a very nice breakfast brunch venue, sitting outside so best on a sunny day.

Mostly over on the Eastside, as I was based there, and sorry not to put in too much address info, it's 4.30am and I've just woken up after an uncomfortable flight!
 
  
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