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How to listen to Sonic Youth

 
 
iconoplast
14:10 / 03.10.04
A friend of mine has been trying to turn me onto some new bands by giving me ten to twenty songs of theirs at a time, and telling me to start with those. And it's working really well. And so I thought I'd ask Barbelith to help me out and to do the same thing with Sonic Youth, whom I have never, ever listened to.

Please recommend for me the best(?), easiest(?), most approachable(?), most representative(?), or most whatever songs you think I should start with.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
15:15 / 03.10.04
Well I've listened to the Sonic Yoot for a while now, and finding their good stuff is like picking gold nuggets out of dog shit. I recommend:

Death Valley 69 (w/Lynda Lunch)
Genetic (100% b-side, also on the Dirty 2-CD reissue)
 
 
Bomb The Past
21:08 / 03.10.04
'Dirty' is probably the most easily approachable album and I'd recommend 100%, Sugar Kane and Drunken Butterfly from there to start off with. Of the early stuff you could go for Teen Age Riot, Beauty Lies In The Eye or Star Power. All three can be found the compilation of their early stuff, 'Screaming Fields Of Sonic Love', which is really rather good. Other obvious albums to try are 'Goo' and 'Experimental Jet Set, Trash And No Star'. So, from those two maybe try Dirty Boots, Androgynous Mind, Bull In The Heather, Kool Thing or My Friend Goo.
 
 
haus of fraser
07:50 / 04.10.04
ok you should really just listen to sonic youth and see what you like- I know they're a weird band I have 5 or 6 albums of theirs and there is stuff I can't stand but hey- what do I know..

A good starting point is Dirty as it was there most commercial album- with the 'hits' (well i think they charted... ) 100% and sugar Kane. Goo is also a great album (kool thing great track) as is Daydream Nation which has the classic classic teenage riot- my personal all time fave sonic youth song if you want to hear some good sonic youth mp3's go to this site as it has some of the above mp3's as well as their classic covers of the Carpenters superstar which is sublime and Mudhoneys- Touch me I'm sick which should make you want to jump up and down a lot...

Have a listen to the bits on this site as you should be able to link them to an album and find out what you do / don't like to tell your friend- personally I've not really liked the more recent stuff but go listen and make up your own mind..
 
 
lentil
08:22 / 04.10.04
See, I think the thing about Sonic Youth is that having been around for so long and having moved through a number of different styles, every fan's going to have in mind a few of their recordings that they think sum up the 'real' Sonic Youth.

Dead Flower may be right about "Dirty" being their most accessible album, but not because it represents a peak in their songcraft (which is achieved in their most recent output, IMO), nor because it has a clean, simple sound, but because it fits most readily into an identifiable subset of rock music, the grunge sound that was making us all dress badly in the early nineties. To be honest I'd call it one of their weaker releases, and "Experimental Jet Set..." perhaps the low point of their career. They become a bit too thundering-rock-juggernaut to complement their skewed, layered musical sensibilities on "Dirty", and "Jet Set..." sounds like the hangover from that as they clamber their way back to something more, well, Sonic Youth-y (see what i mean about differing ideas of the 'real' Sonic Youth?).

That said, "100%" was the first SY song I ever heard, and that made me go out and buy "Dirty", and that made me start buying up their back catalogue, so it's not all bad.

I reckon they've been through two periods of pure gold - the first being the late 80s, as their trash-punk-art-bubblegum sound developed and gained more texture, represented by "Sister" (my fave) and "Daydream Nation" (considered by many to be their masterpiece, certainly their most complete work at the time it was released, epic, sprawling stuff). The first two of dead flower's early recommendations come from these albums. "Sister" has this wonderful clattering, paranoid, hard-edged yet somewhat psychedelic feel to it, which is maintained but kind of cleaned and expanded on "Daydream Nation", as if the earlier album is a late night drive around the worst part of town trying to score and not get carjacked, but not being able to fully pay attention to your well-being because you've actually already scored and are in a somewhat fucked-up state. On DN the car has somehow found its way on to the freeway and the paranoia begins to subside but is replaced by something more like alienation, something slower, and wider, that gets worse with every motel or truck stop you pass.

"Goo" keeps the expansiveness of DN, but adds a metallic sheen and more self-consciously art-pop moments. It's a good album and dead flower's recommendations from it are on the money, to which I'd add "Mote". Then that metally sound gets industrialised on 100%... in the late 90s came Washing Machine, which was good but patchy, and paved the way for their current work. I have a real soft spot for this album, the opener, "Becuz", and the last two songs are some of my favourite SY tracks. If there's a problem with their late work it's that the Thurston Moore and Kim Gordon contributions become easier to distinguish, and Kim Gordon's weaknesses as a songwriter are exposed. This is most in evidence on "Washing Machine", "Panty Lies" in particular is almost embarrassing.

For accessibility, though, I'd say go for their most recent albums, "Murray Street" and "Sonic Nurse". They're dense, multi-layered, wonderfully textural, and underpinned by excellent songwriting. Ten years ago I would have spat at the thought of me praising the Yoot for applying improved technical ability, and a more mature sound, to their work, but they haven't gone muso-wank, it's just the sound of their 20+ years of experience being judiciously applied to their original blueprint. Which works for me.

There are a couple of SY threads in this forum, inculding one in which people talk about their favourite SY albums, I think a fair few of the posts are lists but it should still be pretty helpful.
 
 
lentil
08:24 / 04.10.04
Oh yeah and if you want a compilation I'd be happy to bung a CD together, just PM me yr address.
 
  
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