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Horror rap

08:08 / 24.09.04

Anyone heard Non-Phixion? It's crazy illuminati hip-hop stuff. Anyone know of any other hip-hop like this?

I wanna hear dark stuff. Dark hip-hop stuff. I wanna hear people rap about the demons in hell.

Where should I start?

Regrettable Juvenilia

09:22 / 24.09.04

The best place to start would be the first Gravediggaz album (featuring the god RZA), which is called 6 Feet Deep in most places but is also called Niggamortis...

Are you strictly looking for stuff about monsters and demons and goblins and shit, or would you be open to anything scary and chilling?

11:04 / 24.09.04

Cool, thanks.

Anything scary and chilling.

Regrettable Juvenilia

11:37 / 24.09.04

Well, in that case, you need y'self some Mobb Deep.

Hell On Earth is the more horrorcore, as the name suggests, but its predecessor, The Infamous... is the better album. What's chilling is the sense of utter cold-hearted zombified remorselessness on the part of the narrators, who are aware of this and kinda horrified it but completely unable to break out of it.

Tracks to download if you have that option: 'G.O.D. Pt 3' from the former, 'Shook Ones Pt II' from the latter.

12:50 / 24.09.04

Lets not forget Brotha Lynch Hung:

Nigga, what? You ain't even seen me in my prime
Eatin' baby brains, baby veins, baby spines
I know they be cryin' when I'm cuttin' off the neck
I'm peelin' off the skin for some bacon-fried croquettes.

13:30 / 24.09.04

What about the rap from Maniac Cop 2?

14:05 / 24.09.04

What about you. Shutting the fuck up.

05:58 / 25.09.04

What about it, you big stupid cumbucket?

Jack The Bodiless

14:11 / 25.09.04

Children. Be nice, lest I smite you with gypsy cursings...

15:06 / 25.09.04

Lyrics aside (not that they aren't heavy or horrific, they're just not [usually] in the horror movie style of those artists stated above), El-P, cLOUDEAD, and Dälek are generally refered to as horror rap. Regardless of what genre you want to put them in, they're all fucking awesome, so czech em out.

related note: when is allmusic going to start dividing rap/hip-hop into genres other than "West Coast," "East Coast," and "Underground?" I think there are enough "Horror Rap" artists around to warrant it it's own genre, along with "Comedy Rap," "Psychedlic Rap," along with many others. Somebody should start a petition... they don't answer well to individual letters.

18:50 / 26.09.04

Sunz of Man -- also a Wu relation -- their first album THE FIRST TESTAMENT, available only as a bootleg, is fucking dynamic horror sounds and lyrics about being tormented by demons in graveyards, suffering like jesus, wandering in the desert, being plagued by violent hallucinations, etc. lotta screaming, whispering, and dark keyboard over great beats.

one of the members of Sunz of Man, Killah Priest, had a truly amazing first album called Heavy Mental, which extrapolated further into lyrics about the bible / space alien connection; mind control and cia surveillance, medieval occult imagery, etc. title track was rapped over a beatless digeridoo sample.

first Ghetto Boys album, from around '88 had really over the top lyrics about brutal murders; it referenced cuttin' you up like Freddy, something something Chucky, etc. it doesn't have the "horror rap sound" as we'd come to know it later, it was more about pushing the violent lyrical content of gangsta rap as far as it could go. call it proto-horror.

i keep hearing about Necro but i havent heard him yet. sounds like it fits in.

Haus of Mystery

19:32 / 26.09.04

TeN, i really wouldn't say Cloudead is horror rap. Unsettling sometimes, willfully abstract yes, but 'Horror Rap'? No. at least I don't think it's what yr man is asking for.

If you want some nasty shit (and Fly's already told you to get 6 Feet Deep) try the 'Ghetto Boys' featuring Bushwick Bill the world's foremost midget crackhead amputee.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

00:01 / 27.09.04

I've never sen it released as Six feet deep... interesting. (Reminds me not to accidentally buy another copy should I see it knocking about!)

Yeah, the first KP album is fucking wicked- I dunno, I always thought of it as being a bit more, I dunno, fundamentalist psychedelia, for want of a better term, than horror.

Horror trip hop, though... now there's a thing. Witchman (who had an EP also called "Heavy Mental", which is what reminded me) is fucking ace- "Explorimenting Beats" is a full-on mix of trip-hop (God, I hate that term... instrumental hip-hop, or something) and drum'n'bass with some damn scary stuff on. Likewise Zan Lyons, who RULES.

07:12 / 27.09.04

Anyone seen "Bones", with Snoop Dogg as an undead 70's pimp?
Kind of like Freddy, but fly.

XXII:X:II = XXX

05:20 / 28.09.04

I admit I don't get the classification "horror rap." In the case of those acts I've heard, I don't see how the label fits. Non-Phixion is some dope shit, but nothing about them is necessarily more "horrific" than joints about drive-bys and crackheads, and I'm more genuinely horrified by much of what passes for mainstream hiphop these days, though admittedly that's more an aesthetic horror than anything else. Can anyone explain to me the origin of this name? Somehow I doubt anyone had ontological horror in mind when it was dubbed thusly.

/+,

05:45 / 28.09.04

Horrorcore is a fairly lame term which was used specifically to describe groups like Gravediggaz. Virtually all the other artists in this thread have practically nothing to do with it, and are being shoehorned in because they kinda sound funny, or because people like them.

Regrettable Juvenilia

07:20 / 28.09.04

Yeah, I have to admit I was trying to hijack this thread to sneakily guide Rage (and anyone else) towards some good stuff that they might otherwise not have checked out...

Haus of Mystery

17:13 / 28.09.04

Yeah but Seth that's 'Horror core', and Rage asked for stuff that was

"..dark stuff. Dark hip-hop stuff. I wanna hear people rap about the demons in hell.."

So i feel that some, not all of the suggestions are valid. I personally think Non-Phixion are over-hyped pottymouths with fortuitous sick production, but if it's floating her boat, then shit like Necro, The Ghetto Boys, etc.. will prolly do the same.

No star here laces

01:28 / 29.09.04

I'm sorry but NOBODY should ever lump Geto Boys and Necro in the same box.

Geto boys, while they never released a decent album, have several songs that are up there with the best of any style of hip hop, of any style of music even.

"Mind of a lunatic", "Mind playin' tricks on me" and "damn it feels good to be a gangsta" are just great hip hop records that happen to be really dark. (And genuinely disturbing, as opposed to...)

Necro, on the other hand, is a hack who contrivedly pushes his lame rapping far enough into "dark" territory to garner a modicum of attention from people juvenile enough to find him interesting. He isn't disturbing in any sense other than that he really ought to have disappeared from the collective cultural consciousness by now.

Haus of Mystery

08:09 / 29.09.04

Nice beats and hooks though. He is a tit, though you're right.

Haus of Mystery

08:11 / 29.09.04

Also my misspelling of 'Geto Boys' has shamed me.

17:39 / 30.09.04

"Geto boys, while they never released a decent album,"

Bullshit. The Geto Boys' first album is one of the greatest albums of all time. I first got it in 92 and I still listen to it on a regular basis. There's not a single bad song on it. Ok...maybe I'm a little biased.

In my opinion it is "THE" must own hip hop album.

17:45 / 30.09.04

Bullshit. If you're only ever gonna buy one hip hop album, make sure it's...

Hang on. That's utter nonsense. There are countless amazing hip hop albums. I'm fairly suspicious of recommendations from people who use phrases like that, it's often indicative of not knowing one's ass from one's elbows.

"I own five hip hop albums, and this one is the bestest!" Kinda shows no vested interest...

Haus of Mystery

17:25 / 01.10.04

I agree. And everyone knows the only hip hop album you need to own is 'Mr T's Commandments'.

No star here laces

09:35 / 11.10.04