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Unconditional Love
10:05 / 22.06.06
Cheers.
 
 
Unconditional Love
15:57 / 25.06.06
Would anybody happen to know of any uses for watermelon seeds, aside from food? possibly related to yemoya? or water and the sea. In trick bags? anything would be useful as i keep drawing a blank.
 
 
Chiropteran
13:10 / 26.06.06
Watermelon seeds are good for spittin', but I'm not aware of any specific magical/spiritual use. IIRC, they aren't listed in cat yronwode's materia magica, FWIW. There are a lot of seeds/beans in folk magic, though, so I'd be surprised if someone hasn't done something with them.

If you can find out what they're called in Spanish, that might be a good starting point for future research.

Oh - apparently (thank you, wikipedia) there is a lot of Mexican art for Dia de los Muertos which shows the dead eating watermelon, so that's something. Then there are the vampire watermelons from the Balkans. Watch out for those.
 
 
diablero
22:47 / 05.07.06
My War Water:

Place a handful of nails and/or tacks in a beer bottle with cracked black pepper, and cayenne or other hot peppers or hot sauce (I use Dave's Insanity Sauce). Cover with vinegar and water and sit it in a dark place for several weeks or more. Shake occasionally, particularly when angry. The nails will rust turning the whole mess a dark reddish brown. Pour off the liquid into another lidded or capped vessel and store for later use.

To use: splash or pour into an area or onto an object use wish to curse (ie. an enemy's vehicle or doorstep). Another option is to divide it up into smaller glass bottles for use as magical Molotov cocktails.

The last time I used this stuff was on an enemy's car. Within a week the car was in for repairs costing said enemy her savings. Another week and another breakdown later, she was without transportation and got a measley $100 US for the ride. I wrote it off as a success. Your mileage may vary.

diablero
 
 
Chiropteran
00:31 / 06.07.06
Very nice...
 
 
electric monk
02:30 / 09.10.07
My first-ever batch of anointing oil is macerating! It came together quite suddenly and clearly over the weekend, and consists of:

1 part lesser galangal root, sliced
1 part rosemary
2 parts cinnamon (sticks)
An amount of olive oil equal to the foregoing ingredient's total weight.

The rosemary and galangal scents went so well together I just had to try them. They're both growing fresh in the backyard, so that made it easy. The smell of Rosemary feels very feminine to me, and Galangal's scent feels male. The cinnamon is, for me, the binding agent of spirit. It's silly, but when I smell cinnamon it reminds me of home, family, parties, and together-as-one. I've got the jar in the storage space under my altar. I think I better give it a shake in the next day or so.
 
 
Katherine
12:54 / 25.10.07
I'm not sure if this is really the right place, if not I'll put in a request for moving it.

And here follows a very unpleasant way of using of using a mirror....... hex/curse work;

Buy a new mirror from argos or similar but keep it in it's box.

Do not allow anyone to see it and cleanse it whilst it is inside it's box, to remove any energy from maker or packer or anyone else who has handled this mirror.

Now, capture the reflection of the individual you are working against, do this whilst wearing new gloves and place mirror in box. Being very careful not to capture your own reflection or an innocent bystander.

Tape up the box very securely and drop it. Shake and batter the box so the mirror breaks into pieces.

This in itself could be enough with the right intent but then...

Get a large mouthed jar, paint/spray the jar black so it would be impossible to see what is inside once it is done up. Get into pourable bowls; rusty nails, razor/barbed wire, and possibly poisonous plants such as nightshade. And one bottle of vinagar.

In a dark room so dark you can not see, tape windows and doors...no light to come here at all. Pour the broken mirror and other ingredients into the jar whilst concentrating or chanting what you wish to happen to the individual. Once the jar is filled and the fluid is in, put the lid on and shake it all up.

Seal the jar with black wax, best do this in lighter conditions!

Bury the jar close to their home or place of dwelling but making sure they are unlikely to find it.
 
 
EvskiG
13:58 / 25.10.07
Have you done that?

What were the results?
 
 
Katherine
14:10 / 25.10.07
Yes, to very unpleasant neighbour, they kept having rather expensive problems (boiler blew up, second one went the same way in a week, water pipes troubles etc) with their house soon after the bottle was buried and moved within four months out of the area.

It's not easy though to capture the reflection of someoe without getting anyone else as well though.
 
 
Ticker
15:25 / 25.10.07
Interesting. Did the jar get recovered after they left? Do you expect the curse to still be active as they have departed the jar's area of influence? If the jar is still deployed do the effects impact other people on the property? (The fallout like the boiler would obv impacts others at the time, but that's separate from what I'm curious about)

How does one dispose of such a thing after it has done its job?

Does it have a built in antidote?
 
 
EvskiG
16:28 / 25.10.07
Also, what do you think made this successful?

Was it your intent in doing the hex? The actions you took? The materials you used (for example, some inherent property of mirrors, vinegar, etc.)? The fact that you buried it near the neighbor? Or the combination of all of these?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
17:16 / 25.10.07
The theory as I understand it goes like this:

Mirrors are used in magic to reflect malice and bad vibes, but also to capture things (amongst many other uses). By capturing your enemy's reflection, you've grabbed a little bit of them. Smashing the mirror therefore harms them; mixing the mirror shards with other hurtful componants increases the damage.

Vinegar is used in various ways but one of the most common is to impart sourness. You're trying to sour things for your foe. So if you want to break up a relationship your spell might involve items belonging to the couple, plus vinegar and other componants. Other, more noxious substances are also used.
 
 
Katherine
17:32 / 25.10.07
Pretty much what Mordent said.

The bottle was smashed by the new owners when they dug up the garden to the house. I do these things so once the bottle is smashed or the intent has come to pass that's the end of the whole thing. Long story but I had to do some gardening for the person (on my mother's request) so I planted the bottle in the roots of a bush I was planting. The new guys were ripping out everything as they wanted a new driveway with a mini digger thing you can hire due to the overgrowth in the garden and they smashed it.

What I had worked on this spell was that it was to do was drive them (old owners) out of that home and into another area then the spell would be ended. Not sure a hundred per cent on the timing but from what I heard though the grapevine of my local gossip but apparently they moved into their new home, out of my area, sometime during the fortnight of the mass gardening work.

All in all not too bad I thought.



Edited to add, I used vinagar as we didn't have anything else at home suitable, barbed wire and nails were found in the shed along with black paint. I not sure what else I could have used though... suggestions?
 
 
Katherine
17:47 / 25.10.07
(The fallout like the boiler would obv impacts others at the time, but that's separate from what I'm curious about)

Sorry XK missed this bit in my last post!

I am in the neighbouring house and we didn't even have a problem in the slightest. Parents heard a bang from the boilers but the insurance people had us checked as well and we had no damage to our property.

The new guys must have had a survey done as they have a mortage plus they haven't had any problems that I know of.
 
 
Ticker
18:20 / 25.10.07
archabyss, I respect your situation and I do not intend to get into a ethical thingie about the intent of the working rather I'm curious about how flexible the mirror/bottle spell combo is...

right so...

Instead of a souring repellent would there be a sweetening attraction version?
 
 
EvskiG
18:30 / 25.10.07
I get the theory, I'm just trying to understand why archabyss (and anyone else) thinks it worked.

Simply put, why does reflecting a person in a mirror, breaking the mirror, putting it in a jar with unpleasant things, burying it, etc. -- all presumably without the knowledge of the person being affected -- make someone have problems with their plumbing and eventually move away? What's the mechanism? What's really going on here?

This isn't facetious -- I'm genuinely interested in discussing this and seeing what people have to say. (As long as they don't say "quantum physics.")

And, for what it's worth, I've done similar things myself, with varying degrees of success.
 
 
Katherine
18:36 / 25.10.07
In a bottle? Hmmmm don't see why not.


Lets see... Whole mirror, probably best with those tough little plastic ones so they don't break on accident. Colour them so they have a friendly clear colour to them, perhaps a symbol to draw the good neighbours to the door of the house?

Fresh clean liquid, I would suggest something which has alcohol in it maybe to stop the sugar for the sweetener in the bottle so perhaps a perfume or maybe instead perfumed oil?

Add things such as sugar or sweet herbs to the jar. Paste a picture to one side of the jar of happy neighbours sharing a bottle of wine on a sunny evening, ok I think this will look like a occult snow shaker thing but I think that would work with intent and focus?

Just to add I haven't done this but just throwing some ideas into the open for discussion.
 
 
grant
19:01 / 25.10.07
The rosemary and galangal scents went so well together

Heh, I've got 'em growing side-by-side under the old live oak out front. Funny about the gender - I assign the same (probably because of Mary & John). (although, huh huh, male.)

Google tells me you've made something one ingredient off from the stuff Crowley mentions in pgh 4 here, as described by Gregor Mathers here and described in fascinating length in this pdf.
 
 
EvskiG
19:08 / 25.10.07
Oil of Abramelin.

Don't get it in your eyes . . .
 
 
electric monk
19:25 / 25.10.07
It's true. I was going to make a batch of Abremelin but I didn't think I would be able to get myrrh in the raw, as it were. I considered using Myrrh essential oil, but the more I thought about it the more it seemed like a cop-out. So I used what was available and fresh and in it's natural form. It felt like the right thing to do.

The oil's almost "done", actually. I'm very much looking forward to opening the jar and taking my first whiff.
 
 
electric monk
02:32 / 28.10.07
Quick question for those more skilled in this than I (which would be most everyone): I used mostly-whole ingredients in this batch of oil. Sliced the galanga into thick strips, broke the cinnamon stick in half to fit 'em in the jar, and put the rosemary clippings in whole. Should I expect to re-pack the oil with fresh ingredients after a month, or is that time enough for everything to have blended thoroughly?
 
 
electric monk
02:32 / 30.10.07
Nevamind. Rosie X has some good info up yonder that has helped me figure out how to proceed. Thanks, Rosie!
 
 
Unconditional Love
16:01 / 30.10.07
I can provide a planetary explanation of what went on, but its purely from my own correspondence.

The mirror is the moon, the unconscious, a reflection of the self and surroundings. Smashing the unconscious structure of somebody in their own self reflection or an environment, superstition about photographs taking the soul or locking a moment in time.

The black jar the poisonous herbs are Saturn, limit restriction, old age but also new growth and fertility, beginning and end of a cycle, the Saturn return. As is the black wax.

The rusty iron nails barbed wire etc encode mars, mars in a state of decay and regress, broken and unattended iron.

The unconscious (or astral if you like) structure of the home was poisoned and the occupants relationship to the home through an act that employed a set of correspondence thats about 3,000 years old (astrological) and also bears similarity to other cultural acceptance.

There is no real material evidence for this as it is not the objects that actually create the effects but the notion of the relationships that exist between them, at least in the way i work.

Any system that works with an ancestral structure also takes into account a common code that is shared amongst living and dead and then also begins to employ ancestry in the working of any practical application.

There is a huge generational charge connected to the idea of smashing a mirror as is there to poisonous herbs and the ruin of rusted metal.

Again i have to say that this is from my own personal system of working which is currently very planetary based so my reflections employ that method.

I believe alot of this rests on common shared beliefs or notions shared by the living and the dead, ambient contextual relationships that cross temporal boundaries created through common codes. (forgive my last sentence)

In other words sympathy. Shared through collective recognition that certain codes correspond to certain meaning or effect. Thus the idea of a spell becomes to create an effect field or network of relationships to create the desired effect. The more elements that correspond to common and shared codes within a system the more likely the response is going to be a desirable one.

Superstitions thus make a very suitable magical vehicle as they are very prevalent to common conception, astrology similarly so as it has been a cultural constant for many years and still is to one degree or another.
 
 
Princess
23:25 / 12.06.08
Hey hoodoo peeps. I'm trying to start up a dialogue with St. Expidite and, as part of that, I'm trying to brew my own Fast Luck oil. Now, the three ingredient recipe on the first page of this thread (vanilla, cinnamon and wintergreen) seems to be the one that the internet generally suggests. But I've got a few additions and subtractions I'd like to try out, and I'd like your opinions before I waste a jam jar full of olive oil (such a thing being a terrible expense for me at the moment).

Firstly, I'm having difficulty identifying Wintergreen. I get the feeling that it's a North American herb, is it something I can pick over here? The Fast Luck recipes that Ms. Yrwonde disects on her site include Juniper, I wondered if that would work as well?

For me, Juniper is a herb of Hecate. I'm surprised about how well it fits into my mental picture of this oil. Juniper is about strange forces, magical intervention, dark spirits interfering in suprising yet excitingly dramatic ways. All a bit cthonic and midnighty, but it feels right. Anyone able to back up this bit of intuition with experience or book learnings? Or am I flying in the face of established knowledge that I'm unaware of?

Also, I've got a strong urge to add some form of mint to the blend. Spearmint if I can get it, but garden mint if not. I know it has money symbolism and sex symbolism all of its own, but I knew I wanted to add mint before I thought about why. I think mint is a good idea.

Finally, the red colour. I can order Alkanet root off the internet for pennies. But it's not a herb I know. Is it a worthwhile addition to what must, for space and budget reasons, be a very streamlined box of tricks? I don't like waste, so the idea of buying something only to use it once is a bit disturbing.

Any ideas? Suggestions? Warnings?
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
08:07 / 13.06.08
Keep in mind that, as well as your magical correspondences, a good condition oil should also work at the level of scent. Mint might smell a bit odd on top of cinnamon and vanilla.

You should be able to get wintergreen as an essential oil easily enough. I'd suggest making your fast luck from essentials rather than cold infusion of herbs as its a lot less hassle and you will get better results.

Try not to worry about spending a little money on your ingredients where you have to. Herbs and (most) essentials don't cost that much - and if you don't have enough faith in the propensity of your fast luck and money drawing work to drop a few pennies on the necessary ingredients... it's not a very good foundation.
 
 
Princess
09:33 / 13.06.08
if you don't have enough faith in the propensity of your fast luck and money drawing work to drop a few pennies on the necessary ingredients... it's not a very good foundation.

I can't believe that this didn't occur to me. Thankyou Gypsy.
 
 
Princess
12:12 / 13.06.08
Also, side issue, my flatmate's snake Ziggy has just shed his skin. My flatmate usually just bins it, but that seems like a waste to me. Snake skin seems to be the sort of thing that others could find useful. Any one want this?
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
12:16 / 13.06.08
I'm not entirely sure about a chthonic botanical appearing in a fast luck oil that you want to dedicate to St Expedite, to be honest. I don't see him as particularly chthonic, and again I'm not sure how that whole influence and fragrance would mix with the traditional cinnamon and vanilla base of fast luck. It's great that you're feeling a call towards juniper and mint, but it's possible that might be a totally different oil that you are being given a recipe for - rather than something to add into the fast luck.

Don't just take my word for it though - experiment. Ideally, you want to get all of your possible ingredients, handle them, smell them, familiarise yourself with their individual nature, imagine what they might smell like blended together, even try out different combinations of essentials in a tiny amount of base oil before you commit to your final recipe. This stuff does generally require some experimentation before you get it spot on, and something that sounds plausible on paper - based wholly on the magical associations of the various botanicals - might not actually work so well in practice if you haven't taken into account what the actual fragrances of the oils are and how those scents will blend together. You always want to aim for a bass note, a middle and a high note when blending fragrances. Your base is the underlying foundation scent, then your middle is the body of the fragrance, and your top note accents all of that. Try and think in these terms when you are putting something together, don't just combine a bunch of stuff based solely on what they are magically associated with.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
12:17 / 13.06.08
Any one want this?

Yeah, go on. I always have a use for snakeskin.
 
 
Princess
12:33 / 13.06.08
Just got paid, so I'm off to start ordering supplies. If you want some of Ziggy then PM me Gypsy, tell me where I'm sending too.
 
 
epona
18:44 / 13.10.08
hi folks. i have a query about a possible potion.

i had a nasty roommate that needed some removing so i dressed her room with hot foot powder saying i wanted her to leave. well it took a little while, but she's left. problem is, i have been finding it incredibly difficult to find a new housemate. i'm thinking a serious cleansing with chinese wash is in order, followed up by some kind of drawing formula. however formulas designed to bring one a fantastic roommate seems a bit specific to search for. should i try possibly a peaceful home and luck drawing combo? thoughts?
 
 
Katherine
19:32 / 14.10.08
Have you cleaned up all the powder?

If not that will put a real damper on anything you try and do.

Personally I would clean the room from head to toe to help both physically and otherwise cleanse it then go about other means of attracting the right person to the flat.
 
 
epona
19:25 / 15.10.08
hi katherine, thanks for your reply.

i had swept the room out with a little florida water drizzled on the broom as that's all i had on hand at the moment. i think the room is need of a much bigger cleaning in the hoodoo tradition. i'm placing an order with lucky mojo for some chinese wash for the clean out, but i was looking for suggestions for an inward blessing wash when i'm done with that.
 
  

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