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sdv (non-human)
12:02 / 08.09.04
http://www.fse-esf.org/

Will be taking place on October 15th to 17th -

needs volunteers...

don't know if anyone raised this issue...

ah - well back to invisibility...bye
 
 
unheimlich manoeuvre
18:17 / 11.09.04
*bump*

yes, i will get myself organised.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
14:45 / 14.09.04
I've volunteered for this and got my confirmation email today. It's all terribly exciting. I hope they feed us.
 
 
Disco is My Class War
02:21 / 20.10.04
So, the ESF is over and what happened? How are people feeling about it now? I read an article by Alex Callinicos this morning about the Black Bloc who "attacked" an anti-racism form and stormed the stage at another event. Anyone care to comment? I have friends who were organising stuff for the Autonomous Spaces at the same time as the ESF, and also feel quite wary myself of the way the ESF apears to have been co-opted as a 'political Olympics' (I'm quoting the Guardian, who I also notice is the media partner for the ESF.) But I'm very interested to hear what people who were there think -- about the 'Black Bloc', about whether the ESF is actually a strategy of co-option or not, etc.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:51 / 20.10.04
Funny, I've been trying to write something about it and I was thinking "I'd really like to discuss this with Mister Disco and/or Dread Pirate Crunchy". I wrote something in comment on one of the many Indymedia threads, which I'll include below. There are many others (you can see my face in one) and I suppose someone, meaning me, should probably try to pull them together with the Guardian stories/letters plus info from Urban 75 etc, and try to provide a more detailed overview of what happened and why... But the following is my basic response/opinion. I should probably say as a disclaimer that I went by slightly sneaky means, in that I blagged a wristband instead of paying the £30. I may well have felt differently if I'd either paid the full fee or not been able to go at all. And I should also add that there is a lot more to be said - but this is what I wrote:

Just wanted to say something as someone who witnessed the events of Saturday night, but is not up on the history of the various factions and groups and their animosities towards one another.

When the protestors first entered the hall and unfurled their 'Another World Is For $ale' banner while lining up on one side, they won my support. When they walked over to stand in front of the stage and started putting up other banners on the scaffolding, they still had my support. They lost my support, however, when I quite clearly saw one of the people who stormed the stage kick the table over and into the faces of some of the speakers, with no provocation. Ken Livingstone was nowhere to be seen at this point, in case that needs pointing out.

It's also misleading to suggest that the majority of the crowd were "in support" of the action: initially, most people seemed confused more than anything else. Opinion amongst those who felt one way or another seemed divided: there were cries of "let them speak!" but also "who are you?" (not necessarily an elitist accusation, more a genuine question), and chants of "off, off, off!".

I have extremely mixed feelings about Livingstone and have done ever since I was one of the people barricaded in Oxford Circus for 8 hours back on Mayday 2001. I'm also inherently suspicious of the tendency to split activists into the two divides of "good, non-violent" and "bad, violent" when it comes to direct action aimed at the symbols and structures of capitalism and corporations (as this often relies on ignoring the hidden violence inherent in capitalism, etc etc). I also agreed with many of the points raised by those who spoke once the stage had been stormed (particularly re: translators, the high cost of the ESF, Indymedia v. the Guardian). In the end, however, I couldn't help but feel that they were at least as compromised as the ESF, if not more so, by associating with people who preferred tactics appeared to rely in part on bullying and intimidation rather than debate. (Did anyone imagine that Livingstone would have received only or even mainly positive feedback during the debate, had he arrived?)

And zero points to the man who smugly announced "Well at least we got rid of Ken!" - er, except that he wasn't there anyway, mate.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:04 / 20.10.04
One quick thing to add: I think the issue of race is being misused by different people in the aftermath - in a letter to the Guardian, Lee Jaspar et al refer to "an exclusively white group of anarchists", which I can testify to being untrue. However, many of the people writing in support of the action on Indymedia (which it should be noted is heavily skewed against the ESF for better or for worse and whether as a result of editorial policy or just the make-up of readers/contributors) have tried to claim that the issue of race can be overlooked completely when you break up an anti-fascist meeting with force, and that to claim otherwise is "playing the race card". Personally, I've always felt that anyone who uses the term "playing the race card" should be treated with maximum suspicion...
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:14 / 20.10.04
As to how I'm feeling about it now (sorry, three posts in a row, bad form, but hey)... I'm feeling pretty depressed about what the Guardian politely calls the "sometimes internally fractious" nature of 'the movement(s)'. Maybe I should just remember not to read the comments section on Indymedia too often, because doing so really has reminded me of the extent to which there are certain factions that really do seem to hate each other with a lot more energy than they expend on hating Tony Blair, etc.

Part of me feels that Saturday night in particular, and the weekend as a whole, illustrated a certain inevitable fracturing of a unity that was perhaps only ever an illusion but a pretty powerful illusion while it happened. In other words, even before 9/11, before the latest round of openly aggressive imperialism on behalf of the US and friends, there was talk of various different disparate groups coming together under a broad banner sometimes called "anti-globalisation". Sooner or later, the divisions that were always there were bound to start causing visible internecine conflicts, and that's what's happened now... On the one hand, an entirely understandable and perhaps accurate response is to say "And that's why we'll never win" (read Iron Council, everyone!). On the other hand, what's the alternative - line up behind George Galloway and Ken without question?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
13:17 / 20.10.04
Well I volunteered for a few days and yeah it had it's problems but most of those revolved around the actual expense of London as a city. The problem was that holding the ESF here made everything more expensive, venue costs, translation equipment etc. The mayoral office came forward and offered free travel for over 20,000 people and you just can't refuse something like that when it would have cost those people £20 to get around London over three days.

I was pretty pissed off when the stage was stormed on Saturday to get at one man (who was there to talk in his capacity as chair of Unite Against Facism not as the London Mayor). It was ill thought out, they interrupted a talk on the far right of Europe to make speeches about things that frankly most of the audience already knew. Eventually I stood on my chair and screamed at the stage in front of about 200 people because I was so fucking frustrated. All I could think about it, all I can still think is that the left wing as a movement is never going to get anywhere because who the hell wants people who leap on to a stage in a black mask and kick a table over to have any control over anything ever. Basically I kind of feel like a load of anarchists got up on a stage to moan about Ken Livingstone because they think he betrayed them in some way- well Livingstone has never been an anarchist, he believes in the state and always has done, if these people had a better purpose, if they wanted to discuss the notion that the ESF has been manhandled in to a different position than where were they on Thursday at Conway Hall, for 16 hours on Friday and for 15 and a half hours on Saturday?
 
  
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