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I'm on my computer at home (long story but suffice to say, I now have very limted access) so for once I can expand upon an idea I have had before and that I wanted to discuss
LykeX brought up an interesting point
He/She mentioned that we should effectively reach for the stars and attempt facial reconstruction and other major changes in body modification via magick
Now I am versed enough in Hypnosis methodology to know that this is not achievable via hypnotic practices or I should say, there are those that claim they can affect such massive changes but that their claims are at worst unscientific and at best unable to be replicated
Hypnosis (from anecdotal evidence) has achieved breast enlargement......has speeded up healing and to my knowledge, has been able to promote a better immune system response
Where the most outrageous claims have been made are in areas such as hair re-growth, bone elongation and penis augmentation
Personally, I am not convinced about ANY of these claims
It is not that I believe these achievements are impossible, just improbable and statistically far too small an occurrence to make much headway both scientifically or pragmatically. I believe that the Richard Bandler's and Robert Dilts' of this world might be able to achieve this in some circumstances (and yes I know Bandler is a self promoting lunatic but he has had some very good ideas that cannot be discounted due to his other less salubrious behaviour)
Now whether Magick or Magickal methods could achieve where Hypnosis has to date lacked replicable results, I do not know. It is concievable that Magick somehow taps either
a: a deeper level of the MIND than Hypnosis
b: Magick calls upon powers beyond our individual hidden depths, and as such is able to achieve more impressive results
c: neither of the above
d: a and b above
e: something else altogether
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I have no idea
all I can say is that if we accept that Hypnosis and Magick both tap into a deeper part of the psyche (and I accept Donald Michael Kraig's opinion that Magick is both part of the Psyche and somethijng else, altogether) then it is concievable that BELIEF plays a big part in this issue
For example, years ago, I read a book about Hypnosis that detailed how a British hospital doctor was able to achieve fantastic results with (forgive the spelling) 'Ichiosis '
This condition is a thickening on the arms and legs and basically the skin grows in armour like platelets on the sufferers skin. The doctor was able to achieve massive reductions in the patients platelets.........via hypnotic methods. The doctor was still in training and was told by his superiors that this condition was untreatable
On being told this, he was never again able to achieve similar results with either this patient or any other of his patients
Now this raises some interesting points
Was the patient able to sense the doctors new attitude and lack of belief in what was possible?
Did the doctor convey a lack of belief that sabotaged the treatment?
Now tha Magick practitioner might be faced with a similar dilemmna
IF the practitioner believes that something is achievable, then presumbaly the success rate would be higher. some kind of critical observer part of the psyche might be bypassed and the healing/adaptive powers of the brain/mind/body might be accessible and do their work
Hypnosis might be able to allow us to tap these hidden depths but there is still a glass ceiling that prevents or to date has prevented us from reaching more successful and impressive results. Magick might bypass this critical component or at least allow deeper probing. Magick might simply allow us to bypass this critical observer by on some level, accepting that wea re calling upon a hidden force....rather than the hypnotic paradigm that we are dealing with our subjective unconscious
By using Magick, we might be excusing ourselves for a change in behaviour or new ability that we somehow consciously will not allow. i know this is all rubbish conjecture and not articulated very well but I hope you get what I am trying to get at
basically, Hypnosis might allow us certain behaviour, belief and even body adaptation possibilities BUT as humans and developed personalities....we might not allow full access to our hidden powers.
In comparison Magick, can achieve more impressive results as it either:
DOES have an objective as well as subjective effect, so controls things beyond our control ......... such as others and the environment
Or it allows us the excuse we need to blame or reach levels of being and powers that we consciously cap or keep repressed
For example, Donald Michael Kraig has said that he always suggests a divination before any Sigils are used. Maybe (and I have his email somewhere and when time allows I might ask this lovely man.....name dropper aren't I  )
anyway, maybe Sigils reach a level deeper than the psyche, or even a level that is less subjective. Therefore the karmic ramifications or potential for psychic disintergration, might be more 'risky' than in normal hypnosis. It might be too forceful for a rocky personality to attempt too big a change, without thought of the ramifications
Now I know that Sigils are not infallible but maybe they bypass this critical observer more easily than hypnotic suggestion and as such, need to be treated more respectfully than Hypnosis.
I have no idea, and this whole post is just me idly musing and new ideas are coming to me as I type
As for body modification, Christopher Hyatt
details how body modification, most notably weight control can be achieved via Masturbation and imagining the idealised self (hunt out a copy of 'Tantra Without Tears ' for a more detailed explanation......Hyatt has received a bad press on here and I am not qualified enough to say whether he is great or average)
I don't know, this is something that I am very interested in. To date, I do not believe that anybody has achieved more than a millimeter or two in height gain, via hypnosis
Magick I cannot comment upon though Austin Spare seems to (allegedly) have been able to morph and adapt his body or attributes as he chose. I thank everybody who has contributed to date and please forgive any glaringly stupid points I have made in this thread.....I am just typing as I think and I am sure I will regret a lot of this drivel tomorrow
I am going to start a similar thread about Mental modification next ....if anybody chooses to join in, please feel free and your opiniokns are more than welcome |
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