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sleazenation
12:17 / 27.08.04
Sort of following on from the news that An Ex-SAS amn has been convicted of sponsoring a coup in Equatorial Guinea by a court in Zimbabwe - I figured we could do with a thread for discussing all matters Zimbabwean.

I was going to present a little potted history of Zimbabwe here, but it is so complicated and nuanced that you probably are better off checking these links...

World Factbook Entry

Wikipedia entry on its leader, Robert Mugabe

BBC entry on the same

Done that? Good.
So, we have a country that has never really had any fully free and fair elections ruled by a man who appears not to be too adverse to using intimidation and brute-force against his political enemies be they black, white, or gay. And now the Zimbabwean courts have convicted a british man of attempting a coup in another African country (a case that would seem to have links to former Prime Minister Margret Thatcher's son, Mark)... Anyone want to discuss the politcal ramifications of this?
 
 
Joetheneophyte
07:08 / 28.08.04
I haven't had time to read all the links but the BBC post was quite telling. 'It would be difficult to extradite somebody of MARK THATCHERS STATURE"

So in a nutshell, they are saying any normal Tom Dick or Harry is more likely to get shipped off ?

And who the hell is Mark Thatcher?

the son of a former politician?

He is like a less successful George Bush, the idiot son of a successful politician. Thatcher inherited his father's title, made money from dubious and illegal sources and has probably never done an honest days work in his life

Whilst the leader of the African state maybe a despot, I am more uncomfortable with somebody raising a private army and trying to overthrow him than anything he might have done

International anarchy and giving a message that rich and powerful interests can do as they please (naive on my part I know)

the fact that there is a shitload of oil in that region has nothing to do with it of course

Frederick Forsyth that right wing lunatic was on Newsnight in the UK the other night. His defense for the mercenaries going over there was simply "If British soldiers of fortune don't go over there and train anti Government factions....then the French will"

that was the main argument he put forward. Scarey how the Establishment in Britain and the US still have the same mindset that they know better and must liberate the resources of the 'coloured' people of the world

There was a program on TV a few nights ago about how the white, rich railroad men in the US ....broke treaties with the Native Americans once Gold was discovered in the Black Hills

Now the rich men just send ex-special forces soldiers of fortune over to cause unrest and then the place men are put in to sign the lucrative deals

140 years and nothing has changed

I hope Thatcher, if the evidence is there, goes to jail for a longtime. He could always take the other option

Death by Bongo
 
  
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