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H3ct0r L1m4
15:22 / 26.08.04
in pdf, here

am I mad this morning or is the author of the article far off when he writes this?

Novels drip feed you a steady dose of themes, ideas and subtle characterisations. Comics show you the action as it happens, as it hurts and as the author intended. But they're not just for children. You can choose not to see the complex layers and levels, but then you'll never understand why The Simpsons is more popular with adults than children.
 
 
diz
18:47 / 26.08.04
this looks soooooo hot. i'm excited.
 
 
luke hugh
19:23 / 26.08.04
Oh I think that's great. I love that pitch and that article about comics VS literature should have been published 30 years ago.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:47 / 26.08.04
Did anyone read Orbiter, Ellis' last GN with Doran?

Ellis' upcoming Ocean, with Chris Sprouse illustrating, looks cool.
 
 
Jack Fear
23:39 / 26.08.04
The article is horrible, and STEALTH TRIBES looks shithouse, from the dull, faux-edgy title on down.

Ellis's work has been largely free of straight narrative captions--i.e., internal monologue--unless the story was specifically constructed around the voice, as in Transmet (how do you tell the story of a writer, if not by the words he's written?), he's preferred to let the medium's inherent cinematic qualities do the storytelling for him. This thing, though, looks to have the lugubrious blathering of a Delano Hellblazer--and that's not a compliment.

What we see here is sub-Blade Runner hackwork, peppered with cod-futuristic bogosity that's meant to sound throwaway but in fact desperately calls attention to itself (Dude! They're smoking music!! What a Mad, Beautiful Idea™! And he just drops these things in there for atmosphere, man!)--bibs and bobs from New Scientist and BoingBoing (this is his Cory Doctorow book, I'm thinking) patched together in a tapestry of blah.

That page is all Telling, not Showing--theres's no motion, just attitude posing as atmosphere.

Orbiter was meh, and I place the blame squarely on Ellis's writing. The characters were mouthpieces and pawns, going through their paces, doing things for no reason other than to blatantly advance the plot, making speeches to rehash Scientific American articles point-by-point, and generally failing to come alive as people. It wanted to link a general societal decay to the death of the space-travel dream, but failed to do so convincingly (although Doran's vistas of the shantytown around KSC had some promise in that direction).

This looks to have a little more scope than Orbiter, confined itself almost entirely to investigation procedures at a single location--a criminal underuse of Doran's considerable talents; after that amazing opening, there was precious little for her to draw--but Stealth Tribes looks like a continuation of Ellis's holding pattern; a minor work to fill the gap until he stumbles into another major project. If he ever does.
 
 
_Boboss
07:34 / 27.08.04
why would smoking music be better than listening to it? - ohh cool, in the future even music gives you cancer...stick to superheroes elly, swhat you're best at
 
 
FinderWolf
14:24 / 27.08.04
I have to agree with Jack Fear's impressions of that page and Ellis' writing of late...but it's just a page sample, so the actual full comic might be better, who knows. And Ellis' Ult. FF is really kind of shit, after a somewhat promising start. I can only hope Ellis' IRON MAN will be better cause it doesn't need to be superhero-y like FF does, it seems more suited to Ellis, somehow (no pun intended).
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
17:36 / 28.08.04
(Dude! They're smoking music!! What a Mad, Beautiful Idea™! And he just drops these things in there for atmosphere, man!)

Many would argue that that's a Morrison flaw, too...

... protecting the melting ice caps with dark chocolate? Giant statue heads smoking those really big cigs? A sign pointing to Atlantis in the middle of the ocean? And I'm just using Seaguy here.

So don't mock and hate Ellis for doing something which you cheer and love Morrison for doing, too. Smoking music and chocolate-covered ice caps... no intrinsic difference; just big mad ideas thrown around for atmosphere.
 
 
Spaniel
00:56 / 29.08.04
The thing is, whilst we're all aware of Greg's faults, he often makes a better stab of his idea bombs. He's also much more aware of comics as a format.
 
 
Spaniel
00:58 / 29.08.04
Re Seaguy: Morissey is also a talented surrealist.

I think you're setting yourself up for a big dissing.
 
 
FinderWolf
02:14 / 29.08.04
>> ... protecting the melting ice caps with dark chocolate? Giant statue heads smoking those really big cigs? A sign pointing to Atlantis in the middle of the ocean? And I'm just using Seaguy here.

So don't mock and hate Ellis for doing something which you cheer and love Morrison for doing, too. Smoking music and chocolate-covered ice caps... no intrinsic difference; just big mad ideas thrown around for atmosphere.

I would argue that while Ellis does it to be super-serious, dramatic, and uber-cool (as the tone of his stories usually are), Morrison uses stuff like that to play with ideas in a more genuine and less pretentious way. Certainly in SEAGUY, those things are supposed to be fun, even goofy. SEAGUY doesn't take itself as deathly serious as almost all Warren Ellis stuff does.
 
  
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