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Smoking: reasons and means

 
 
Trebor
00:37 / 25.08.04
I was browsing through a housemates book shelf and stumbled across a psychological tome on body language, in which it argued smoking is not neccesarily all about the nicotine. Besides the cliched talk of phallic imagery, it also suggested that pipe smokers tend to be indecisive, and the process of packing and smoking a pipe is a method of stalling. Whilst I understand the meaning behind body language and actions to be incredibly subject and context specific and so did not neccesarily agree with many of the books generalisations, it did get me thinking.

I am a fan of the rollie, for me the process of creating my cancer stick is as, if not more, important than the consumption. When smoking weed with friends of a similar disposition, arguments over who gets to roll are more prevalent than whose toke it is next. Pure enjoyment of the craft aside, I also see smoking as a comfort mechanism and an excuse for a short break and period of reflection. In my day to day life, I rarely exceed five smokes a day (filterless or roached rollies) but notice a dramatic spike when in strange company, and a whole pouch can quickly dissappear the night before an essay is due in. I have also noticed that my more extrovert friends, usually those who hold such performance skills as juggling, acting, muscianship, etc. all take enjoyment in blowing smoke rings. Many a night has been whiled away performing acts of one-upmanship with smoke rings (I'm particularly impressed when I see mimicking of games like the hoop throw, with friends actually getting a smoke ring to "fall" onto a candle *talk about phallic*).

I hope that after my primitive examinations of the socio and psychological aspects of smoking you'll still be willing to discuss your prefered smoke (pre-rolled or roll your own? Which brand? Filtered, roached or filterless?) your style (clenched in hand, power walking proffesional, or chilled out wizard teaching the hobbits new tricks?) and, more importantly, why you smoke what-you-do and how-you-do?

Many Thanks
 
 
Cat Chant
10:11 / 25.08.04
actually getting a smoke ring to "fall" onto a candle *talk about phallic*.

Vaginal, surely?

Lovely thread, but would you have any objection if I proposed a move to the Conversation? I think it would get just as good responses and probably more attention there.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
13:57 / 25.08.04
snap. It *is* interesting, but it isn't quite Head Shop to me...
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
15:19 / 25.08.04
Since I all but gave up til recently, here is my tuppence worth :

American Spirit rolling baccy and nothing else whatsoever. In chlorine free perforated papers.

Hell, I reckon if you're going to kill yourself, you owe it to your doom to minimise the damage as much as you possibly can. It's the Tesco's Finest Organic range of tobacco's, completely natural, free of additives, humectants, burning agents, aroma perfumes or any of that shit that gets pumped into the shitty sticks of nasty that you find in most newsagents.

It's bastard hard to get hold of, you have to go to a snuff shop or tobacconist (no, not the one on the corner with the wank rags on the shelf and sweets by the counter).

I spend ages considering each ciggie before I smoke it, and tend to be a bit sacred about it all if I can.

Unless I'm pissed, in which case I just smoke the bastard.
 
 
Benny the Ball
15:59 / 25.08.04
I gave up years ago, and the method I used was to switch from my old red death Marlboroughs, to roll ups (golden virginia) and then to a pipe, the thinking behind it I suppose was to a) start doing something that took longer to prepare each time, so I had to have the moment free before I smoked as well as during the smoke, there by maybe staving some of the craving, b) work my way onto purer tobaco, so losing all the nasty additives in regular cigarettes (even if not true, my brain thought that way, so...)

It worked. Although I do miss the actual rolling of cigarettes. And smoking a pipe is terribly relaxing, especially when reading. Sometimes I hold it in my teeth, just for old times sake...
 
 
Bed Head
16:00 / 25.08.04
Or, you could always grow your own. Piece of piss, or so it says; as organic as you want, sell what you don’t smoke to your mates, never pay for it again, blah blah. It’s a dream of mine, to be a tobacco farmer: walking the field, brooding over the leaves, squinting at the horizon with inscrutable weather-seeing farmer’s eyes.
 
 
Benny the Ball
19:09 / 25.08.04
Isn't there some massive levy tax that you have to pay when growing your own tobacco? I remember vaguely reading something about this, and there is a huge amount of money owed to the government once you grow over a certain amount?
 
 
Triplets
19:37 / 25.08.04
Well, you just don't tell anyone. I mean, really.
 
 
Smoothly
19:42 / 25.08.04
Intresting. I agree that there's a lot more to smoking than getting a nicotine fix. I'm pretty conscious of smoking behaviour. I dwell on mine quite a lot - the small routines, the acquired and specialised little dexterities and sensations... I also observe it quite closely in others. I think I can tell quite a lot about a person by the way they handle a cigarette.

I smoke Benson & Hedges. People try to convince me otherwise, but I suspect one's choice of brand is entirely to to with its image. I prefer the taste of a Benson over any other, but I think this is just a preference I have acquired through familiarity. I've smoked a few brands in my 22 year career, but there's something about B&H. They're the cig Jack Duckworth smokes, and men called Stan. I was quite happy to discover that they're called 'Senior Service' in the US. I have a soft spot for Rothmans, but I have far far more brand loyalty toward B&H than I do to any other product. Hmmm, I could talk at length about the associations I make with different brands, but that might be a thread on its own.

I smoke exclusively right-handed, but envy people who are
ambidextrous with cigarettes.
I hold the cigarette beteween the first and second knuckles of index and middle finger, gripping it at the top of the filter.
When seated at a table, I tend to plant my elbow down, with smoking hand raised vertically beside my face. I've been told that this is vaguely camp. I do resist the more traditionally butch styles.
I never grip the cigarette low, where the fingers meet the palm (like my dad did), unless I'm typing with it in hand. Even then I'll push it back up with my thumb to take a drag.
I only ever hold it 'overhand', between finger and thumb, if I'm pulling on the last millimeter of tabacco, or squeezing through a crowd and want to shield the burning end with my palm.
I sometimes exhale through my nose but don't make smoke rings. I tend to blow it in a directional jet away from other people - normally up at the ceiling.
I am festidious about extinguishing them, and dislike smoldering butts in ashtrays.
I don't have a zippo or the tricks (although I did as a youngster), but I'm reasonably playful in other ways. I sometimes find myself worrying the cigarette in my fingers with my thumb, rolling it between my fingers a little, that kind of thing. I also like to flick the butt away at the end. I'm pretty good at that, in both range and accuracy. Oh, and I tend to roll the ember into a cone on the side of the ash-tray, but at the same time prefer the look of a long, grey, teetering, flat-ended stack.
I'll always cup the lighter with my hand, whether indoors or out, and dip my head to meet it.
I smoke in bed. I'll smoke pretty much anywhere I can; I'd probably smoke in the shower if I could (and yes, I have considered on of those plastic visors).
I smoke constantly when nervous, drinking or in unfamilar company. Those three generally go together so it's hard to know what's the important factor.
I take big drags. I smoke about 20% faster than most people I know.
I no doubt stink of fags but it doesn't bother me too much. I like the smell on other people.
I prefer kissing smokers to non-smokers.


Things I don't do:
Reverse one cigarette in a new packet for luck. What is all that about?
Tap the cigarette on a surface, like Bogart would on a silver cigarette case. I see this quite a lot and can never understand the point, particularly with filters. I'm told it tamps down the tobacco, but I've never noticed the need. Anyone do this?
Keep a cigarette behind my ear.
I will very rarely put a cigarette down once lit, even when typing. I'll stall doing anything that I can't achieve with fag in hand. It's a habit I'd like to break. I've always thought it looks rather sophisticated to periodically rest a cigarette in an ashtray, and it would no doubt eke them out.

I also smoke a couple of joints a day, and am very particular about construction quality. It should have the same consistancy and 'pull' as a ciggie. The cone should be made to fit the roach, not the other way round. A Benson should be used. I'll top and tail it with scissors. I like them to have pleasing proportions and look nice. People mock me, but I think it's something to take pride in. If a job's worth doing it's worth doing well, and all that toss.


I work in an industry where smoking is, it seems, uncommonly popular. Being a smoker has definitely benefitted my career. Most of the people I work with smoke, and socialising with colleagues offers a rich opportunity to observe smoking behaviour.
I should confess that the first thing I observe in smokers is that I like them. In terms of first impression, few things attract me more than a cigarette in hand. There's something of the club tie about it, which I suppose is pretty loathsome, and possibly Just Another Kind Of Racism. Nevertheless, it does sometimes seem as if the kind of people who smoke are often the kind of people I like. I suspect that there is a certain 'type' who is attracted to smoking (we don't smoke simply because we are addicted to nicotine - none of us was an addict when we started smoking), and that type seems to have other charateristics I enjoy. Huge generalisation, obv, but that's how it seems to me.


I don't know what all this says about me. Probably that I'm waaaay to into smoking. I'd be interested to know more about that book, Trebor.
 
 
Char Aina
20:30 / 25.08.04
i do different things depending on my mood.
how much i smoke changes, as does what i smoke.
currently on rollies now and then, with the occasional pack of readies.
i agree completely about the sense of rolling being a wee meditation, and about the spike of consumption in strange or stressful times.
never really found the desire to smoke a pipe, though... i should, if its the choice of the indecisive procrastinator.
some day, maybe.
 
 
HCE
20:40 / 25.08.04
Hm. I have smoked cigarettes, but am not a 'real' smoker as has been pointed out to me many times. I enjoy rolling cigarettes more than smoking them. It's sort of like coffee: it doesn't taste the way it smells, coffee ice cream tastes the way coffee smells. Cigarettes look more enjoyable than they are, but I find smoking a pipe is just as pleasant as I'd hoped it would be. Cigars I gave up on due to expense and scarcity. Just goes to show how subjective the whole thing is -- people generally find cigars nasty-smelling but I've always enjoyed them.
 
 
Ganesh
21:51 / 25.08.04
There was something interesting in The Tipping Point about smokers and smoking. Will dig it out.
 
 
Trebor
23:06 / 25.08.04
Thanks for the replies. The book I mentioned initially is "Body Language: How to read others' thoughts by their gestures" by Allan Pease. I wouldn't really recommend it for this subject area, as out of the whole book 3 pages are dedicated to smoking. The segment in question begins with the statement "Smoking is an outward manifestation of inner turmoil or conflict and has little to do with nicotine addiction." I'd say that was a fairly presumptuous statement, owing more to the authors stance on smoking rather than any factual relevance. Either way I'll post some more of the content when I can steal the book off my housemate. For the moment though, I'm just gonna kick back and enjoy a bedtime smoke, possible with some blues or belle & sebastien, talking of which, does anyone have any preffered smoking music?
 
 
The Falcon
01:48 / 26.08.04
Bensons don't come in a gold pack for nothing.

I love manufactured fags. The additives are what makes it so special.
 
 
the cat's iao
00:17 / 28.08.04
I generally smoke--and prefer--tailor made cigs; although, I have smoked rollies for a couple of stretches when the money thing was tight. I have been smoking for exactly half of my life.

Lately, I have been smoking Canadian Classic Light Kingsize. Personally, I don't understand why anyone would buy regular size smokes, but that's merely my take on the situation. Anyway, the Canadians are on the "cheap smokes" market, although I used to smoke them years ago when a friend of mine had a little coffee/sandwich/smoke cart that he operated in the downtown of my hometown. So, I used to smoke Rothman Lights, went to the Canadians, back to Rothmans, and now back to Canadians, with stints of smoking Mild Drum in there as well.

One of my favorite things to go with smoking is coffee. I really love the combination and find it quite difficult to have a coffee and not smoke.

I mostly smoke with my right hand, resting the cig on the first knuckle of my middle finger with the tip of my index finger holding it in place. Like ST, a rarely--if ever--put down my cigarette once it is lit. Also like ST, I smoke fast, and people I have cigs with have commented on the speed at which I smoke.

With almost every drag I have, I tend to spurt a little of the smoke out of my nose and then inhale. Sometimes I exhale through my nose, but mostly through my mouth, but on the rare occasion I will exhale through both at the same time. I used to blow smoke rings fairly often: it took an evening of two packs of smoke and half a bottle of Jack to learn how. Now, since most of smoking happens outside, I don't really have the opportunity as often.

I too like to flick the butt away when finished, but from ST's boast, I do not believe I have the same degree of skill! As well, I also hate a smoldering cig in the ashtray, and will extinguish other people's cigs if they don't put them out--typically accompanied with a bit of a *look*. One of my friends never seems able to put out his smokes, and when we hang out, I pretty much end up extinguishing most of his smokes.

I own two Zippos, but one is retired because of too many tricks when I was younger. I have also lost two Zippos, the last one of which I lost in a mosh pit at a Nomeansno show. I also have a really neat lighter that was bought in 1957 by my Father-in-Law, and given to me last year when I found it helping while helping he and his wife pack and clean up the house when they were moving.
 
 
at the scarwash
20:19 / 28.08.04
I don't have a brand. I prefer viginia or perique, I suppose, but turkish has its pleasures if one can find decent Egyptian cigarettes. Currently I am on a pack of the Gauloises Caporal rolling tobacco. I love the richness and density of the smoke, but it tends to be heavy on the pallete. I think it's a pity that so many English brands are no longer imported here, as Three Castles and Silk Cuts were two of my favorite smokes. Canadian cigarettes are the closest in flavor profile to that style of viginia, but for some reason, they lack the nutty sweetness of English brands. I find Rothmans and Dunhills too dry.

I tend to keep the cigarette in my mouth as much as possible unless conversation or drinking get in the way. Generally hold it between the knuckles of my right hand. I tend to french inhale the smoke, drawing it into my mouth and letting it out and capturing it by the nose. This was an atrocious affectation that became a habit.

I smoke a hell of a lot. Probably about a pack and a half a day. Wish I could quit, or switch permanently to my pipe.
 
  
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