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Girls - The Prodigy return to the British musical landscape

 
 
The Strobe
21:19 / 16.08.04
OK, so I heard the new Prodigy single today. It is, as the topic says, called Girls. On first listen, I quite liked it. Very electro.

This is surprising given that there was that horrendous stop gap that was Baby's Got A Temper. Remember that? I am sorry.

So: should I listen to this again to get my facts straight, and hate it like I should, or is there anything approaching a return to passable-ness in store for Howlett?

(Incidentally, I say this entirely as a non-Prodigy fan. I just thought that them being not entirely shit was possible worth noting).
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:29 / 16.08.04
I've heard bad things about the album... not heard the single (or the album) yet though...

Prodigy are one of those bands/artists I'm never sure whether I like or not... sometimes I think they absolutely rule, other times, dependent on my mood, it all sounds a bit... well, shit, really.
 
 
uncle retrospective
06:51 / 17.08.04
I'm with Stoatie here, of all the big English dance bands I've seen live (Orbital, Leftfield, Underworld ect..) The Prodigy were always shit. I thought Fat of the Land was dull and pretty boring and the new one isn't much better. Although there are no moron dancers with deulisions of rock stardom on it. It's a lot more rock than I was expecting but still dull.
Pass.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
16:58 / 17.08.04
Liam has apologised for Baby's Got a Temper. Personally I'd want him to go round every single house in the UK and apoloise personally but I'll take what I can get.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
17:15 / 17.08.04
I've found that on first listen 'Girls' sounded great, because it seemed refreshing, because it was so different from the last Prodigy single the name of which I will not say in these lands, and in fact from much of the flabby Fat Of The Land. However, on repeated listens the appeal starts to fade, as you realise that while it shows that Liam Howlett's music taste has improved in the last couple of years, it's not a patch on the people he's been influenced by. My feeling at this point is that it's not a song that bears repeated listening. Of course, I might change my mind if I hear it on a dancefloor, but I suspect not.

The advance rumours regarding the new album (for which I believe we may have a thread already) suggest that a lot of it isn't that much of a departure from the last one, which doesn't bode well. I'll be sure to check out the track which reportedly features Princess Superstar, though.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
10:24 / 18.08.04
Thread diversion: Fly, have you had the collab between Princess Superstar and MC Paul Barman on his 'It's very stimulating' EP? If not, I think you might like it.
 
 
nedrichards is confused
14:32 / 18.08.04
Thread title related diversion: If the Prodigy are part of the British musical landscape wherabouts are they? Hopefully a marsh of some sort. Coldplay could be Leicester.
 
 
rizla mission
16:55 / 19.08.04
oh, that's so cruel!

I think the Prodigy are some really crappy & ugly suburb in Essex that nobody knows the name of unless they live there.
 
 
reFLUX
20:09 / 19.08.04
saw the video today and really liked it. i don't know if this had something to do with the video, which i thought was exellent, but it sounded like a real good progression for da Prodigy. i just don't want to hear the one with brother in-law Liam Oasis on it, or maybe even the Juliet Lewis one either. but who knows, the album might be good, there were good bits from Fat that i liked. namely the singles mianly. but i'm looking forward to hearing it. note that i wrote hear.
 
 
sleazenation
12:14 / 20.08.04
the Prodigy are definitely Basildon - a decaying concrete newtown.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:26 / 20.08.04
I see them more as one of the dodgier shops/stalls in Camden Market. Or maybe Camden Market as a whole: seemed really exciting the first time, etc...
 
 
Tryphena Absent
23:03 / 20.08.04
Don't insult the stables Flyboy or the lock by night, Camden market is much better than the Prodigy. In fact the Prodigy is probably King's Cross station undergoing refurbishment.
 
 
Brigade du jour
03:44 / 25.08.04
The Prodigy are from Braintree. I worked there one summer and ... yes it is a shithole. Especially the bus station.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:22 / 25.08.04
So if the Prodigy are the entirety of Braintree, would that make this album (given the views largely expressed in this thread- I haven't heard it myself, but I'm not holding my breath) specifically the bus station?
 
 
Haus of Mystery
12:54 / 25.08.04
Read Liam Howlett's interview in the Guardian on Friday - he is King of the Twats. very little interest in New Prodg album, as Fat of the Land was shite, and Jilted Generation only has a couple of decent tracks on it.
 
 
Brigade du jour
17:28 / 25.08.04
Well he is from Braintree, which comes from the old English (Buruwntrai) for 'twat place' or Land Of The Twats.

Blimey I hope there are no Barbeloids in Braintree! And if so, that they aren't reading this thread.

I really liked 'Jilted Generation' when I was 19 or so, mainly because it didn't have guitars in it therefore to me at the time it sounded terribly exciting and different.

I still dig it out again ... but only when I want to play frisbee, B-BOOM!
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
15:54 / 31.08.04
Not going to go through the usual "we have a thread for this" bollocks even though we do have a thread for this and I started it because that's how I fucking roll.

I've had girls (and the album, natch) for fucking aaaageeees now and I've been spending the last few weeks fuming at reviews calling it a "Liam Howlett solo album" (what do you think Experience was, you overpaid bollockheads?) and I really really love the shit out of it.

(Aside, to flyboy) I don't think Liam's really been ripping off influences from more recent bands/acts who do similar stuff: the boy Howlett has been into his old school breaks for years. More likely they were influenced by the same stuff he was. It reminded me a lot of the sort of stuff that ended up on Dirchamber Sessions.

Most of the negative stuff I've read has slagged the album off for sounding a bit like XTMNTR era Primal Scream (it doesn't), which strikes me as an insane thing to say given, you know, XTMNTR owes more than a few doffs of the cap to the Prodge (it also owes me the sum it cost me to buy it in the first place but that's another matter altogether).

In short, the new stuff is stoopid electro with hard hitting beats, which is what I was after from the Prodigy. Very happy he left Keith off this: the Prodigy sound like a different band each album, which can be/is both a strength and a weakness. Juliet Lewis' vocal on Spitfire was a nice counterpoint to Smack My Bitch Up in the sense that it's an ultra-agressive female vocal on a similar track (this time the bitch smacks you up, see?) for those that missed the irony of ending FOTL with a fucking full-blooded L7 cover the first time round.

Not suprised with any of the responses this has been getting. Make of that what you will.
 
 
Char Aina
23:30 / 31.08.04
Not suprised with any of the responses this has been getting. Make of that what you will.

i made an assesment of your character.
 
 
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01:22 / 01.09.04
I really love The Prodigy and have done since i was a kid, i can't see me hating this album at all. If it sounds as good as FOTL then i'll be really, really happy.

This is the one thing that i want NOW. I know that Liam Howlett will have made an album that i'll love because The Prodigy have always been one of my fave bands. I even loved the Dirtchamber Sessions and hope he does something else like that too. I'm sure to post back when i have this, which can't be much longer because i'll start going insane.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:00 / 01.09.04
Kinda off-topic, but sadly just because a band has always been one of your favourites doesn't mean they won't disappoint you, as bitter experience has taught many of us (he said, sobbing and cradling his battered The Holy Bible CD).

Yeah, Radiator, I actually agree that it'd be a bit unfair to suggest that Howlett has been ripping off any recent acts, and I can see that there's a continuity between some of the stuff on Jilted Generation and 'Girls'. Unfortunately I do think that there are recent acts who've been doing something along the same lines, better - although obviously 'better' is difficult to quantify.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
16:58 / 02.09.04
Likewise, I kinda think "Memphis Bells" (Princess Superstar track) kind of sounds like something off Prodigy Experience taken to a modern context.

Best track on the album is probably "Action Radar". Worst is "Pheonix" or "Medusa's Path" which are the worst filler Liam's cranked out since the handfull of tracks you always skip on MFTJG.

Toksik: Sniff. I still love you.
 
 
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15:24 / 03.09.04
I have it at last and love it. I knew i would! I got it last night and can't stop listening to it. I'd pick out the songs that i like but i like nearly all of them, the few that i don't like as much i'm sure will grow on me as my addiction deepens. If i had to say my faves i'd say they are Spitfire, Wake Up Call, Action Radar and You'll Be Under My Wheels.

Amazing, deeply addicting stuff, and Juliette Lewis is a brilliant singer!
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
14:17 / 04.09.04
Yeah, Juliet isn't getting her dues from the reviews I'm reading. I really hope they bring her over for the live shows in December (roll on the 7th).

Was watching the crappy music channels on the digibox last night and it struck me just how brill "Girls" is in the current pop context - I hung on for three desperate hours waiting for something good (and saw that fucking JoJo video far to many times) and everything was just so dull and depressing. Then POW, Girls drops and I'm listening to a slab of mutant 'lectro funk (I do love my electro funk ever so) with a video that's Rocky Horror meets Adam and Joe meets Judge Dredd. I'd almost forgotten what real energy sounded like thanks to the "New Rock Revolution (AKA same old fucking shite)". Awesome.

I wish Liam would plug Reason 2.0 more in his interviews - that program could have a nuclear impact on music.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
14:21 / 04.09.04
If it didn't cost three hundred fucking quid, that is.
 
  
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