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Apocalyptic Dreams

 
 
Nobody's girl
08:09 / 11.08.04
Since the age of 9 most of my dreams take place in the last hours and days before whichever version of the end of the world my brain feels like throwing at me. It happens as frequently as every other dream. I'm totally sick of it. Maybe I should sue Thatcher and Reagan's estate for lasting psychological damage?

Anyway, I wondered if any of you lot share my dream landscape? Any theories on the symbolism (other than yer basic anxiety dream)? Most importantly, how can I stop dreaming about this?
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
08:51 / 11.08.04
There are many theories on the concept of dream control and each carries their merits.

The most popular one that I'm aware of is to enter sleep via meditative process and to take whatever your point of meditative focus into the dreams with you. Apparently you can take this up to the level of lucid dreaming.

Sadly for me I don't remember my dreams, just that I have dreamt with occasional senses of whether the dream was good or bad. Gotta hate waking up from a nightmare in a cold panic and not know why.
 
 
Axolotl
09:08 / 11.08.04
I quite often have dreams, and have done since childhood, in which the world is about to end but somehow an evacuation has been organised. I spend the entire dream trying to get to the correct spaceship through what is the busiest, biggest departure terminal ever. I almost always get seperated from my family and nearly always get horribly lost, necessitating a frantic dash to the ship before I am left behind.
I don't really think that it takes a lot of analysis to reach the hidden meaning of this dream, though I feel the fact that I am in fact trying to escape the end of the world adds a certain something to its urgency.
 
 
wembley can change in 28 days
09:55 / 11.08.04
I have the same dreams; this is the most recurring theme of my nighttime movies as well. Except in mine, I am the one organizing the evacuation and nobody will listen. I always know that the world is going to end and exactly how it will happen, but nobody will ever listen to me. In the end I usually get to do a big "told you so."

I don't particularly feel paranoid about it, and they're not any more nightmarish than a dream where you're sleeping with your English professor(s), so I can't say I really suffer from these dreams. But ever since I can remember it's been the biggest theme.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:05 / 11.08.04
Same here- a combination of growing up under Thatcher with an unhealthy interest in eschatological Christianity. I still have them, but they don't frighten me like when I was a kid.
 
 
Hattie's Kitchen
12:23 / 11.08.04
Ooh, good thread...I've been having lots of these dreams lately (probably due to increased levels of stress during the past few months) where there seems to be some terrible catastrophe awaiting me at the end, and they've become progressively more frightening on a global scale, terrorist attacks on the underground, nuclear accidents etc...I used to have them as a kid, albeit on a much more localised and personalised scale, i.e. car crashes, toxic cloud disasters (I used to live near a chemical factory)...but lately they've become reflective of what I perceive to be the state of the world at the moment.

So, I've been trying some yoga and meditative/Zen exercises to try and clear my head before turning in for the night, which seems to be helping, as I'm now back to dreaming about breakdancing fish etc.

The weirdest one ever was when I dreamt I was kidnapped by Lionel Blair, who in my dream was this omnipotent leader of a global terrorist cell, and he kept me hostage in this abandoned steelworks plant. Analyse that, someone please, because I have no idea what the hell it was about...
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
12:39 / 11.08.04
That wasn't a dream.
 
 
Sekhmet
12:52 / 11.08.04
Hmm. Most of my apocalyptic dreams (and I have quite a few)actually don't involve a human threat, which seems odd, considering my Cold War upbringing and general misanthropic attitude... but it's never nukes or engineered viruses for me, it's always asteroids or tornadoes or floods, or occasionally alien invasions.

Maybe my subconscious thinks people are nicer than my conscious does.

The earliest dreams I can remember were repeated nightmares in which I was riding in a car (or occasionally a train) with my family, and the vehicle went off the end of an unfinished bridge, over a very long drop into a large body of water. That, and one dream which made a huge impression at the time (I think I was five or six) in which I was standing in front of our apartment watching my toy train driving around and around in the dirt, while a chorus of disembodied children's voices counted backwards from ten, like some twisted bit from Sesame Street, and I knew with certainty that if the count got down to one that there would be a massive explosion and my family would die. But I was too frozen in fear to move, and though I tried desperately to scream, I couldn't make a sound.

Uurgh. Over two decades, and remembering that dream still gives me the creeps.

Anyway - definitely try dream journaling; it helps with recall and analysis, and for some people it eventually helps with control. I've also heard some people say that you should get in the habit of asking yourself frequently, "Am I dreaming right now?" At some point you'll end up asking it while you ARE dreaming, and you might snap into lucidity or be able to wake yourself up.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
13:19 / 11.08.04
Ugh. You just gave me the creeps right now Sek, and I'm hard to shake.
 
 
Nobody's girl
13:20 / 11.08.04
I have half-heartedly tried dream journalling. I'm so pathetic and dozy when I wake that I generally forget, but I'll give it another shot.

Recently in one of these dreams the Apocalypse actually happened and it was (strangely) really cool. I was out on the street as the bombs hit, I felt a building heat then my body disintergrated into thousands of joyful particles.

So I woke up and thought hopefully- "Great, I'm moving on from the fear and anxiety, perhaps this is the turning point." Then last night I was yet again running around after my family and friends, desperately searching for survival provisions. Fie!
 
 
Triplets
16:55 / 11.08.04
I had a version of this meme but the timeframe is different. Around the age of 8-12 I had dreams of the post-apocalypse. No not an uprising of the hordes of the postal service but actually after some kind of extinction event.

Strangely enough the dreams were almost always pleasant involving my home town but usually adult free and run by the neighbourhood children. A Never Never Land on Earth. Thick jungley vegetation was always a prominent feature. However, there was one dream involving a Mad Max-esque tourbus/coach, bolted and welded to the gills, crossing an atomic desert to reach the last cinema on Earth. That was... different.
 
 
Triplets
16:58 / 11.08.04
Oh, and there were a few involving go-carts. An interesting from the train symbolism that crops up most of the time. Man, I love not having to write a dream journal to remember all this stuff.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
18:14 / 11.08.04
I have two recurring dreams- the first is just like Phyrephox's but I choose to stay on the planet and then I change my mind but I never make it before the doors close.

The second is really weird and I usually forget about it inbetween the times that I have it but recently I was woken up while dreaming it and recounted it to someone and now I remember it vaguely. It's about flooding. There are these boys and I'm in a park with them, it's always the same setting, there's a big tree and a stream and a bridge in front of me and a kind of hilly lawn. The boys are quite cruel to each other and they're chasing each other and I kind of spend my time frowning at them but I seem to love all of them too. Then it starts to rain and the stream through the park starts to rise only a little bit and people realise that it's not going to stop raining. Everyone starts running around and I just don't know what to do and I walk around and watch the mud and water rise and look at the humpback bridge and watch the boys panic and scream for hours and an old woman who is the grandmother of one of them is trying to talk to one of the boys and he doesn't listen. People keep telling each other what to do and I just know that everything they say won't work. It's very horrible and I have no idea when I first had it but I suspect that it's a dream that I've been having for at least ten years without really recalling it. I seem to have a lot of dreams about torrential rain and things collapsing because of the amount of water and I'm never really effected, I don't get wet or anything I just watch. None of the others are apocalyptic though in the same way as the flooding dream.
 
 
Foust is SO authentic
19:55 / 11.08.04
I only ever had one end-of-the-world dream, but I remember it as one of my most unsettling dreams ever.

I had the dream when I was something like 16 years old, and still living in my small hometown. I was walking through the streets in the middle of the night, and I'd look up, and realize I couldn't see the moon or any stars around it - most fo the sky was blacked out. Then I'd realize that there was a huge, black-out-the-sun sized alien spaceship in orbit.

The feeling of fear and insecurity I felt was terrible. It was like I'd never feel safe again, that there was no where to run too.

I'd watch as several points of light left the huge black void, and I'd always know they were destroying New York (This was in 1996, they were after the UN HQ).

The dream became a post-apoc fantasy after that. The town would instantly turn into your standard post-apoc pile of ruins and burned out buildings. I'd join my family and friends in avoiding roving street gangs. Luckily, I had the newest (as yet unpublished in the real world) Michael Crichton novel to keep my company.
 
 
cusm
20:56 / 11.08.04
Ugh. More than I can count. I'm with you on the suit against Reagan. Class Action, anyone?

I've had a couple with the bombs falling. One complicated one involved a virus that turned people into zombies that was being launched by Randall Flagg. The goodies were the post bomb ones, though. One was migrating with a tribe of refugees throgh the rubble, hiding in tunnles when the bombs fell, picking through bits to scavange supplies. Another involved driving a jeep across the wasteland, notable in that the jeep was outfitted with a radation meter on the dash. Then there was the unexplicable view of Hong Kong being leveled by nuke as seen from across Victoria Bay, complete with vivid detail of the shock wave breaking every pane of glass as it went.

Haven't had so many of these since y2k was over, though. Every now and then, but less so anymore.
 
 
■
22:32 / 11.08.04
Oh, yeah. Had them on a regular basis growing up under the Thatcher/Reagan instability years. Didn't help that I lived right in the centre of a circle of all our main Nuke weapon research/factories/dumps/bases and a mile or so from the biggest arms dump in Europe. Berkshire, looks so lovely, but you can bet it was right up there with Washington, and London on the USSR missile targets. We even had what I presume was a simulated attack at our school once where we all stood outside in fire drill lines as sirens went off in the distance. This is why I want to piss on Thatcher's grave and cheered when I heard about Ronnie.
During waking hours the sound of a siren was enough to freeze me to the spot and make my blood run cold, so it's not surprising I had a whole series of "just heard the warning/seen the missiles fall" dreams. To this day I can't hear the Coronation Street theme without expecting it to flick to a four minute warning after it happened in one of those.
Hadn't had one for about 15 years until a few months ago. Now I get them every few weeks. And every time I have the same feeling... "this time it's not a dream".
Imagine my amusement this Friday when what sounded like a big fucking bomb or a crashing plane headed directly for my house at 21:05 and I huddled thinking "this time it's not a dream," fully expecting to die for the first time in my waking life. Turns out it was probably the ever-lovely Tattoo doing a fly past. Whatever it was must have missed us by less than 20 metres by the sound of it. Cunts.
After typing this, I know I shall NOT sleep well tonight, but I'm glad to get it off my chest.
 
 
the Fool
22:47 / 11.08.04
I had one ages ago where the sun exploded. Outside my house was a giant model of a new world. It was beautiful and radiant. I realised I wasn't going to be part of it and had just enough time to go inside and say goodbye to my family. I still remember saying goodbye to my mum just before being incinerated by white heat. I still remember that dream vividly.

I had another more recently where I was living on the moon, but it had an atmosphere and was basically the same as earth. I saw the earth rise on the hozizon and the moon being in its final decent. It never crashed though, just repeated anexiety of it just being about to happen. The dream cycled on the last couple of minutes, over and over. I kept trying to find somewhere to die.

There was yet another where scientists started observing galaxies exploding due to some alien outside force. The earth would be swept away due to a war beyond our comprehension.
 
 
the cat's iao
00:00 / 12.08.04
Ah the Apocalypse dreams! I've certainly had these as well, off and on, over the years. It's kinda' neat to see that several people share at least the basic phenomena.

Myself, well, I always enjoy them. I don't recall ever being frightened by one; although, as a kid growing up in those cold war days, I was strangely fascinated by the idea of mass devastation, and in some ways I think I even looked forward to it. The radioactive symbol has been a fetish-fixation of mine since I was, hmm...eleven maybe?

It's weird though, my end of the world dreams are never due to bombs or crazy weather or natural disasters or such. Typically, there suddenly is no law and anarchy ensues. And not a nice sort of "love thy neighbour" anarchy, but the down and dirty dog eat dog variety. Generally this involves guns and fires, and explosions--but not from WoMD. I am often hiding or running or fighting in these dreams.

Sometimes it's zombies. In these I am generally fighting zombies. I had one dream where I had to kill my brother because he had turned into a zombie. In another dream almost everyone was a zombie--all over the world (as far as I knew)--and I had to kill the woman I loved so that she didn't have to suffer being turned into one of the undead.

And then, very rarely, there are dreams where the world is ending for no apparent reason. Things are going along fine in the dream, and then suddenly everything gets really weird--lights start blinking on and off in the night sky as it dissolves into emptiness. Strange shapes pushing into reality and then folding back out taking the fabric of spacetime with it. Time grinding to a halt and the scene of the dreams shattering into broken bits.

Perhaps the "end of the world" in dreams isn't simply a cold war phenomena. It might be a more universal archetype. I mean, there have been myths spun around the end of all things for ages. These ideas had to come from somewhere...
 
 
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02:40 / 30.01.05
Fuck. Just had another one. Not what I need given my recent lack of sleep. All very nice and surreal on a sunny holiday with lots of friends to a very verdant hilly version of Glasgow (I only know it was Glasgow because someone was gushing about the architecture of a really ugly building) and was being asked by an old school friend who had an odd French accent to clear up some glasses and bottle which had been left at a party so that they didn't drop on to the road (dreams, eh?). Climbed up the bank to get them, looked to my left and saw a flash and a mushroom cloud on the horizon, followed by a massive earth tremor. Was thinking "shit, this time it's real" and woke up in terror with flashing lights in my eyes -which freaked me even more.
Thanks for being there, Barb. I feel a little exorcised and ready to try and sleep again.
 
 
---
03:25 / 30.01.05
Wow, never seen this thread before.

I really hated it when I last had one of those dreams. I had the mushroom cloud, and ran into a cave in a mountainside, only to have a volcano erupt nearby on the opposite side!

One piece of advice would be to have a dream journal. It helps with the exorcising. I should really add to mine more, I've been having some really strange one's lately. I guess the strangeness is just part and parcel of the dreaming process though. It's strange that this has been bumped, as I've just been arranging ways to get hold of a couple of Carl Jung's books on alchemy, dreams, and the unconscious.
 
 
Ariadne
07:36 / 30.01.05
When I was really young - about seven, maybe? - I found I could decide would I would not dream about. I can't choose what I *do* dream about, but if there was (or is) something scaring me I run through that thing in my head, as clearly as possible, and think "I will NOT dream that". And I don't, ever.
Whether that will work for you is another matter, but it's worth a shot. The 'will-not-dream' thing I picture can be as specific as a scary cat or a vague as the panic you feel when the world's falling apart.
 
 
■
09:23 / 30.01.05
Interestingly, I seem to have had one of the deepest most refreshing night's sleep I can recall after this. SO it's not all bad.
 
 
Nobody's girl
13:03 / 30.01.05
Just gave this a reread.

To this day I can't hear the Coronation Street theme without expecting it to flick to a four minute warning after it happened in one of those.

Jesus, that'd scar me too! There's always been something sinister about the opening music on Corrie anyway.

Imagine my amusement this Friday when what sounded like a big fucking bomb or a crashing plane headed directly for my house at 21:05 and I huddled thinking "this time it's not a dream," fully expecting to die for the first time in my waking life. Turns out it was probably the ever-lovely Tattoo doing a fly past. Whatever it was must have missed us by less than 20 metres by the sound of it. Cunts.

We had the same reaction at my house! During the Tattoo there were low flying fighter planes showing off over the centre of Edinburgh. The first night it happened everyone in the house froze on the spot, all us us clearly thinking the same thing. Interesting to note that my last thoughts in that situation would've been nothing more profound than "Shit, is this it?".
 
 
■
15:20 / 30.01.05
Good to know it wasn't just me. Wonder how many other people thought they were overreacting. If you want to increase fear of terrorism among a population that has never experienced it this is a good way to start.
This is the sneery reply I got when I complained:

Thank you for your email of 6 August. I am sorry to hear that the one aircraft that flew over the Edinburgh Military Tattoo on Thursday, 5 August has caused you such stress.
Flypasts have been agreed by Air Traffic Control with the minimum height of 1500 ft and The City of Edinburgh Council are aware. Please understand that everything we do at the Edinburgh Military Tattoo is for a large audience of ¼ million from Scotland and elsewhere. We are presently bringing £88 million into the Scottish economy during August. The Edinburgh Military Tattoo is a charity and everything we do is for the City of Edinburgh and Scotland and the surplus we make goes to commendable charities and the Arts.
Of course, you have our apology but the flypast is part of the show which commemorates the RAF who saved Britain and Europe during WW2 and gave us the chance of peace, freedom and democracy.


I like the "you have our apology" which he then retracts with the next line. Twat. "ooh, one plane caused you distress" Bullying twat.
 
 
Nobody's girl
16:06 / 30.01.05
Fecking Tattoo. It's not as if those of us living in the centre of town don't get enough disturbance during the festival as it is.

I love that their justification for scaring the shit out of the populus runs along the lines of- "Lots of other people like the Tattoo and you ought to be thankful for the money we bring to your town, ingrate!"
 
 
ibis the being
16:30 / 30.01.05
Wow, I can't believe I never saw this thread either. I have had Apocalypse Dreams my whole life - in fact, I once wrote a mediocre humor piece about them. In my case, I think it's fairly obvious that the dreams stem from my religious upbringing, ie, being conditioned to accept that the world could indeed end AT ANY MOMENT AND YOU BETTER BE ALL RIGHT WITH JESUS OR YOU'RE GONNA BURN.

Thankfully, the dreams seem to have ceased at last, probably owing to my finally being thoroughly corrupted by higher education and television.
 
 
Chiropteran
13:40 / 01.02.05
Dangit, I read this thread yesterday and then had an "Atomic explosions in Boston and New York City" dream. First "The BOMB" dream I can remember ever having.

It was odd, because shortly afterwards there were street vendors everywhere selling "Benefit the Survivors of New York" t-shirts and book-covers. Odd little dream.

~L
 
 
Loomis
13:49 / 01.02.05
Of course, you have our apology but the flypast is part of the show which commemorates the RAF who saved Britain and Europe during WW2 and gave us the chance of peace, freedom and democracy.

This guy really knows how to lay on the guilt doesn't he? I take my hat off to him for his guilt-inducing abilities. If you don't like the Tattoo, then the terrorists have already won!
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
15:19 / 17.01.06
Ergh. The one dream I've had about an actual apocalypse was about four or five years ago. At first, I was in a room with several scientists, looking at this screen on which there was a large, dark planet, and we worked out between us that this was the Biblical inspiration for Satan, and therefore the source of all evil (a lot like in the Fifth Element). So we worked out a plan that would neutralise the entity's malign influence by slingshotting a probe around it with (something) inside. Then, I was myself again, and some sort of Christian secret society had realised that Armageddon was now never going to come, and panicked. So they'd constructed an artificical Heaven and Hell, and separated the world's population accordingly. Logically, therefore, I was consigned to the artificial Hell, which was constructed on the rifle range at my old school. This was a sort of enormous warehouse filled with canals, along which you'd be taken on boats, in order to be buried in compost-heap type things upside down and then set on fire. However, I and a group of people I knew in the dream managed to escape onto the school fields outside. And standing on the fields was an enormous (100 foot tall) bronze polar bear, with something on its head. We worked out that the "something" was in fact a spaceship (it looked like a cross between an ornate mirror and a UFO), and resolved to leave the Earth on it. So I flew (a very confusing feeling, like sliding belly-first onto an invisible plate of glass while staying airborne by treading water) up to its head height and had a word. It turned out that the polar bear was convinced that the spaceship was a particularly fashionable hat, and wouldn't relinquish it to let us leave the doomed Earth. However, I managed to persuade it that big metal spacegoing hats were "out" this season, and so it put the UFO down gently. We got the door open, and a hatch opened, spilling out a very gentle golden light.

At which point I woke up, and was extremely confused but somehow reassured and filled with a sense of achievement for several days.

Less pleasantly, I live about twenty miles away from Hemel Hempstead, and had been drinking the night the explosion happened. Also, I live very close to RAF Strike Command. So, when I was awoken by an enormous, furniture-shaking explosion in the middle of the night, I assumed the worst had happened, and stayed very, very still for the rest of the night in abject terror, which didn't even dissipate when I found out what it really was - for some reason I was convinced this was a cover story for the "real" happenings to prevent mass panic. Not a nice experience, or one which sheds particularly good light on my perspicacity, either.
 
 
Nobody's girl
13:28 / 01.08.06
So this current hideous situation in the mid-east has sparked a couple more of these dreams.

First one I was in 1984-esque Britain, only if Big Brother was Blair. I remember my skin crawling as I realised that every action I took was being recorded by this threatening state power. I was attending this amusement park where people were being mass executed dressed up as clowns from this enormous rectangular scaffold hanging from the ceiling. I knew I had to pretend everything was fine and somehow escape, though I knew I'd most likely die.


Second one I'm in the bombed out concrete remains of a Mosque, post apocalypse, and a man holds a machine gun to my 12 month old daughter's head and blows her brains out. It was so striking because I remember feeeling the powerless fury and crippling grief engulf me all at once, very much as I imagine mothers in the war-torn mid-east feel right now.

This time I'm pretty sure these dreams are prompted from the disturbing political situation. Anyone else suffering?
 
 
JOY NO WRY
15:52 / 01.08.06
I doubt it's connected to the situation at the moment, but the last few nights I've been having the same post-apoc dream, in which I'm on a battered old space station after the end of civilisation with no way to get down, and with barely anybody else on board. Every few minutes the power would cut out and looking down there'd be only one or two lights shining up from the Earth.
 
 
Princess
16:03 / 01.08.06
My boyfriend had one when he was very young. He found out that one day the sun would consume the earth, but no one ever told him that would take billions of years. In his dream he is on the earth, and the sun is getting bigger and bigger and he can't do anything about it and then he burns.

I tend to have apocoliptic dreams where I die and am sent to wait in purgatory and know that I will go to hell. They usually spark a religious crisis.

The lesson: Science is bad for children. Religion is bad for children. Only Barney can safely raise them.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
16:19 / 01.08.06
To be honest, I've had apocalyptic dreams quite regularly for the past fifteen years, or so. Mind you, of late these have taken on a different (and hard to explain) dimension, with my mind even providing a loose history of how my dreamscape apocalypse came to be.

Also, although many of us are bound to soak up current events and incorporate them into our dreams, I get a little worried when I hear that other people are also having more vivid (etc) apocalyptic dreams*, as it reminds me of the many odd almost precognitive artistic expressions that were coming out just before 9/11 happened. e.g.

Now, I know that's probably an irrational line of thought, but still... Global (Un)consciousness? In this case, I bloody hope not.

*A few of my friends have noted the same kind of dreams lately...
 
  
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