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Spatula Clarke
01:00 / 09.09.04
Although 'Dredd vs Death' was apparently fairly repetitive and tedious.

As a game it was pretty shit - five years out of date yet still felt rushed, took about four hours to complete, completely lacked any polish, failed to move the form on in any way whilst also failing to cover the bases particularly well, failed to use the licence to anything like its full advantage - but as a translation of the character and the universe into a different medium it was quite effective. The actor doing Dredd's lines got the part spot on, it stuck to Dredd lore, the humour was handled well (actually, all the writing and acting were of a higher quality than expected) and certain areas of the universe were portrayed brilliantly - the Undercity and Iso Cubes in particular - even if some of the others were a bit pap.

So crappy game, decent understanding of the source material. If nothing else, it made me a bit more hopeful about the film treatments. I just won't be holding out much hope for Xbox Rogue Trooper.
 
 
Char Aina
01:47 / 09.09.04
theres a rogue trooper game?
old skool or new skool?
might work , i guess.
who has the license?
iD could pull it off, i reckon.

personally i'd have commisioned a strontium dog game, and i'd have asked rockstar to make it.

prolly all best left alone, judging by the judge dredd game.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
01:53 / 09.09.04
Rebellion are developing it. That was the whole reason for their purchase of 2000AD in the first place - it gave them a ready supply of recognisable IP to plunder.
 
 
Triplets
02:48 / 09.09.04
A Sinister Dexter game could work if done as a complete rip-off of Max Payne in terms of gameplay. Even the graphic novel sections look a bit like the stuff SB Davies does. And let's face it, Abnett's scripts are tissue paper thin mostly. I swear the man has made a career out of creating stories around wordplay.

ATM, liking 2000AD but only enough to pick it up sporadically from the newsagents on the way to work. Bec and Call is complete shit and reads like a pitch for Cartoon Network. What the fuck is up with that girls eyes? She looks a beaver in glam rock mode. Caballistics? Crapallistics more like. The art and script reads like no frills 2000AD and acts like a poor-mans X-Files: The Ghostbusting. Strontium Dog is a bit boring. Dredd is aces as always, can't beat a bit of Wagnerian futureshock facism. ABC Warriors, though. Fuck me with a hallucinating steak on LSD. Cyber-gorillas, talking robots, interconnected sentient planetary lifesystems, robots who worship said systems. Hardcore violence! Yeah! Rock my fucking cock!
 
 
Triplets
02:56 / 09.09.04
Can I just say though, that when Abnett split Sinister/Dexter up for the strung out 'Brit Pack' story, it actually rocked on toast?

It centred around the seeming betrayal and 'redemption' of Dexter as a hitman now working for The Man in the wake of his lifetime boss being assassinated. Sinister fell in with the city's freelance gunsharks [Abnetts lovely word for hitmen] and started constructing a gang to be reckoned with, in the style of the Kitano vehicle 'Brother'. Add in Dexter's cop girlfriend, the local gunrunner getting killed by his apprentice, a corrupt federal agent running the task force designed to takedown the scum he was dealing with and it all got deliciously technoir and complex. Loved it. Dropped out of 2000AD before I saw where it went, however, coz everything else was a pile of dogturd. Back issues, where art thou
 
 
_Boboss
07:36 / 09.09.04
dxb sed: 'soul sisters got me into comics in the first place'

mate, that's nuts!
 
 
Lord Morgue
08:25 / 09.09.04
They still doing Flynn? He showed promise. A bit of Släine, a bit of Nemesis, couldn't go wrong unless someone made a truly heroic effort to arse it up...
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:39 / 09.09.04
Do you mean Finn?

He fought evil Christian businessmen! He had sex with pagan earth mothers!

If the Levellers was a comic...
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:41 / 09.09.04
Actually, didn't Finn start off incredibly weird and dark in Crisis, when you'd have whole chapters about minor characters getting killed horribly (either young punks in love on the dole getting betrayed and tragically murdered by the state, or fat cats getting their comeuppance), and then it turned into muscles, guns and kewl crackling energy magic? Or does my memory deceive me?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:56 / 09.09.04
Not quite... the character of Finn was in the Pat Mills/Carlos Esquerra strip Third World War, which was about a group of Brits drafted and sent to make Latin America safe for multinationals. It was broad-brush political satire, but had some good points. One of the group was Paul, who was lying low after his exploits as the eco-terrorist Finn. The series started to lose its way after Crisis was, to everyone's surprise, not cancelled after issue 12, and the "Coca-Cola Corps" came back to the UK. Finn became more of an action hero wank fantasy, and there were references to the freeplumbers and lizards, but nothing to suggest just how utterly shit and two-dimensional the series "Finn" was going to be...

Occasionally characters from 3WW turn up in "Finn". They are awkward reminders that Pat Mills is going backwards as a writer at a rate of knots.
 
 
_Boboss
08:59 / 09.09.04
well yesterday's was the first post-relaunch issue, i.e. the one where all the big strips start to disappear and others come to fill the gaps. the result this week was two, that's fucking two strips written by alan grant - the dredd one was so bad and reminded me so clearly of why i hate hate hate the man's writing (comedy accents! comedy accents...done wrong!) that i definitely couldn't be arsed to read sam slade even though i like ian gibson's pix. head in a jar! like futurama geddit? no you stupid stupid old twat, futurama should be nicking ideas from you!

the caballistics one actually held my attention for the first time - really get the impression that the artist is really trying to do it one way, but that it aleways goes a little bit wrong. met the chap, name escapes me, a couple of years ago as macgyver reminded me, nice enough but his style seems to have gone downhill since he started getting paid for it - there was a vertiginous, fegredo-esque feel to his pre-pub stuff that he doesn't seem to do no more. the basic conceit of the storyline though, a haunted movie studio where they kinda d-jump to a different old horror staple each week, is just too straightforward and has really affected the pace of something that could have been just, well, scary and violent and cool as fuck.

there was another newie called asylum, had no idea what was going on really and it looked rather generic, which in this context is a kindly wait-and-see way of saying 'total bollocks'.

leave it to john wagner to redeem the entire issue with a classic wulf sternhammer moment on the very last page. the letters column is pretty good too, tharg regularly wears his politics beret and wastes no opportunity to point out how fucked things are in the world at the moment. the 'i've been trying to warn you for twenty-five years' line is regularly rolled out, and still funny because it's true.
 
 
Lord Morgue
11:19 / 09.09.04
It's been so long since I actually picked up 2000ad. Last time I checked, they were doing Dredd v.s. Aliens, so naturally I ran home screaming, burnt my clothes, and scrubbed myself till I bled, but I still felt dirty.
Is every single stinking new artist still trying to be either Simon Bisley or Jaimie Hewlett?
 
 
_Boboss
11:56 / 09.09.04
eh? no, they're all very busy aping carlos ezquerra and sub-bisleys like gregg staples (remember him?)

shoulda checked the dredd/aliens - was real good.
 
 
sleazenation
12:05 / 09.09.04
If ONLY there were still a few Hewlett clones going round... Henry Flint is still heavily influence by Kev O'Neiland it looks like Dom Reardon is drawing from both Jock and Frazer Irving in equal measure...
 
 
Haus of Mystery
13:50 / 09.09.04
Henry Flint's art on 'Shakara' (I think that's what it was -or is that that dodgy Brazilian singer?) was bee-yootiful. Still there is something vaguely reductive about it, symptomatic of my main problem with the comic in general ie: that it's trying too hard to recapture past glories, instead of breaking new ground. Much as I love the classic Wagner + Ezquerra team on SD, it is a careful retread of what's gone before. And much as I dislike elements of Bec and Kawl, I have to agree with the cajun that it is quite fresh and weirdly enjoyable.
 
 
_Boboss
14:30 / 09.09.04
yurp, the stink of retro in thargville is just too cloying. infectious and welcome as it is, i find dxb's enthusiasm for the current output bewildering. i understand they presently consider their core audience to be 'lapsed dads' or something, but i can't see any equivalent of the gems that made 2000ad's reputation appearing in any time soon, and that state of affairs ultimately spells 'no future'. there doesn't seem the slightest chance of bellocian future shocks written completely in rhyming couplets coming along, nor does this feel like the place where the british superhero could be wholly and triumphantly redefined. i'll follow the crappibollocs til the end of the arc and maybe even the stronty one (even that is being done to quiet the nostalgia demons - hardly guilt free reading, for me at least), but if yesterday's was indicative of the form you can expect once the landmarks have died down, i don't think i'll be able to carry on.

oh yeah, sorry to bang on dxb, but 'soul sisters got me into comics'? i'm trying to remember - in those issues you had smith/phillips on devlin waugh, ennis/ormston on dredd, but it was bishop/kane on soul sisters that got you into comics? mental man, that's just mental.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
14:59 / 09.09.04
So unbelievably smug and unfunny, and a waste of Shaky Kane. Quite, quite dreadful. There's plenty of room for humour in the Galxy's Greatest (see: Helwigan, Swifty, DR & Quinch, Time Flies, Bix Barton) but not that poo. Yeeesh.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
16:53 / 09.09.04
Yeah, Soul Sisters man. It appealed to me. Once I'd bought a few issues it was Devlin that I stuck around for. It's fairer to say that it was the S.S. that got me into British comics which isn't quite the same but I liked the idea of the S.S. and the concept. And you might mock but after being nearly forgotten the S.S. have gone on to become a world wide phenomenon with their Channel 4 t.v. series 'How clean is your house?' being snapped up world wide.

My enthusiasm for the modern stuff? Because it's good. Regarding RoboHunter - The head in a jar thing has been a cliche long before Futurama and any strip that can crowbar in a joke about Armpit and Navel surplus stores will do alright with me. This weeks Dredd was awful but Stronty looks set to be a blinder and I like Dom Reardons Cabalistics art very much indeed. So much so that when I introduced myself to him last year he knew my name from the constant internetty praise. Embarassing.
 
  

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