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Where did the term dosser come from?

 
 
MsCirmish
10:11 / 27.07.04
I'm an Australian living in London and have never before heard this term. It is used to describe people who sleep on the couch while they are in between houses, or if they have just moved to a new city.

Is anyone aware of its origins?
 
 
Smoothly
10:32 / 27.07.04
Google suggests it's from 'doss-house' - rough sleeping accommodation. The term is from Elizabethan England where a 'doss' was a straw bed, from 'dossel' meaning bundle of straw, in turn from the French 'dossier' meaning bundle.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
10:33 / 27.07.04
IIRC it's an extended corruption of DHSS (Department of Health and Social Services) which is a now extinct department. This department was responsible for what is now known as Housing Benefit and Income Support. Anyone receiving social benefits from this department was unlikely to be able to afford their own housing so they couch-surfed or lived in overcrowded hostels filled with people in the same situation. These were refered to as Doss Houses and anyone who lived in one was basically branded a dosser.

The term essential was used to demonise anyone unemployed in the long-term as lazy and workshy (it being implied that they should be able to get a job if they tried hard enough).
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:44 / 27.07.04
I kind of like yours, SK, but afaik the term "doss-house" preceded the formation of the DHSS.
"Doss" used to mean, at my school anyway, to sleep or crash out... "I'll doss round at yours, if that's okay" sort of thing.
However, at my school we used to say "marrow" while stroking our chins in cynicism when others would say "Jimmy Hill", so it may not be a good reference.
 
 
Jub
10:47 / 27.07.04
from here

M-W throws up its hands at doss and claims its origins are unknown. Thus we weren't fully prepared for the wide assortment of meanings that dosser can take on, according to the OED. In brief: an ornamental cloth that covers the back of a seat (primarily a medieval usage); a basket for the back, a pannier; "a syphilitic swelling or bubo" (only one usage example there, though, from 1547); and, as always, an insulting sense via dosser-head -- a fool -- and dosser-headed -- foolish.

More relevant to Hulse/Sebald, though, is the third noun form, viz. "One who frequents, or sleeps at, a common lodging-house." This word seems yet another invention of the nineteenth century. The first usage example is a somewhat unexciting citation from the Temple Bar in 1866: "The entrance...is usually thronged with ‘dossers’ (casual ward frequenters)." The other two are more interesting, however, since they capture Hulse's sense precisely. The 1884 use comes from a House of Commons report on the working classes:

People crowd in at night, and sleep on the stairs of the houses...they call them ‘'appy dossers’..‘'appy dosser’ means a person who sleeps where he can.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
11:28 / 27.07.04
Clearly I am wrong.
 
 
MsCirmish
11:13 / 29.07.04
And I clearly much more enlightened!
 
 
Ganesh
16:00 / 29.07.04
So... why was Tony Blair trying to 'sex up' a dosser?
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
08:34 / 30.07.04
Because it had blonde hair and pert breasts.
 
 
Ganesh
08:40 / 30.07.04
Isn't that a prosser?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
08:43 / 30.07.04
From what I heard the dosser in question was fairly dodgy.
 
  
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