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Give us a Jay! Give us an El! Give us an Eye! What have we get....?

 
 
DavidXBrunt
14:41 / 14.06.04
Ah, happy days. I have such incredibly fond memories of the Giffen era Justice League, and I know a lot of other people do too. It's a bugbear of mine that it's now spoken about as 'embarassing' or a 'flop' in comics press. Well, it obviously wasn't. The writers that followed Giffen couldn't work the characters, and with retrospect shouldn't have tried to, but those 100 plus comics that came out in five years Keith was in charge remain some of the best of the late 80's/early nineties.

I could waffle on about the book at length, about how good te stories were, how well rounded the cast were, just how all round fun it was, but I won't. All I will say is that the J.L.I. years had all the following-

* Heroes who were more neuroticly human than the average.
* Long gaps between action that allowed for interaction, and character conflict.
* A focus on the organisational aspects of a hero team, the funding, the relations with world government.
* A pivotal non powered character who plotted and manipulated to get what he wanted and to get the team to run.
* Attention to how the world and the press saw the team.

You know, all the things that people say are great about Millars Ultimate scripts. The only difference is that Millar writes it as an epic action movie, Giffen writes it as a small screen sitcon. I bet people don't look back as fondly on The Ultimates a decade on though...
 
 
THX-1138
22:42 / 14.06.04
'One punch'..that brings back the JLI.. hahaha..yeah I think I have that issue..great stories.brought a smile to me..that was the Guy Gardner Lantern wasn't it? and Batman? ahhhh thanks
 
 
Dicodisco
08:18 / 15.06.04
Are there any TPB's that collect this Giffen era ?
 
 
doctorbeck
09:45 / 15.06.04
i am also a big fan, great scripts and a nice sense of the characters just hanging out together, also a wonderfully playing around with guy gardners character when he came over all captain marvel (wait, that sounds rude doesn't it? you know what i meant). highlight for me was all that darkseid stuff when scott was kidnapped but also, yes, just the banter.

thought that de matteis wrote some very funny dialogue and the art, especially early on, was superb. the martian manhunter mini that de matteis did was just wonderful too, plausible and entertaining retcon of the leagues best character. sort of petered off around issue 35 for me though, but agree a total classic

as for trades, you can get individually them cheap as chips on e-bay as i guess they are not gritty and dark enough for the fanboy massive.

goinna dig them out this evening, maybe even the justice league europe one i bought too.

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Lord Morgue
09:59 / 15.06.04
Ah, yes, J'onn J'onnz as the worn-ragged mother hen- "I don't know. I don't care."
"I don't WANT to know. I don't WANT to care."
Heh, that's one of my catchphrases now.
Ha! Manga Khan and L-Ron!
Mr. Nebula, Gnort, Scarlet Skier, The Amazing Bruce...
Heee... heeee...
BWAH-HA-HAH-HA-HAAAA!
 
 
DavidXBrunt
10:57 / 15.06.04
Heh heh, just noticed that stuffs been added to my original thread summary. I was much more oblique originally...

In terms of collections there's a book collecting the first 7 - 'A new beginning' and a much rarer collection of issue 8-12's lead stories called 'the secret gospel of Maxwell Lord'. Later issues crop up in 'Lobos greatest hits' unless I'm mistaken. But you can get the whole run for a matter of not very much.

There's a market for a lot more collections, I think.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:04 / 15.06.04
Topic summaries are there partly to provide information on the intended subject and manner of the discussion within the thread, and also to provide extra data for searches, both web searches and those using Barbelith's own search engine. Since the title and the abstract had not included a searchable term providing information on the thread, I suggested an amend to make it easier to find. There's more on the function of topic summaries here.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
15:48 / 15.06.04
Noted and digested.
 
 
Benny the Ball
14:13 / 31.07.04
My favourite comic run of all time. Let's see, the Grey Man story line was great, issue four was the first one I got, so very fond of that one, Booster joining the team, Beetle one of the best writen characters in comic history - I loved everything about this series.
Kooey Kooey Kooey.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:01 / 03.08.04
The first portrayal of Capt. Marvel as clueless, naive, played-for-laughs Boy Scout goody-two-shoes.

J'onn and his oreos!!! Where did that bit come from, who knows, but it's terrific.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
09:59 / 04.08.04
Despero ending up trapped in L-Ron's body.
 
 
Lord Morgue
13:14 / 04.08.04
Alltime favourite quote- upon seeing that the Justice League shuttle is landing on the embassy roof, and simultaneously being told that the roof is not made for this...
"I foresee a problem." -J'onn J'onzz
 
 
I am Invisible now
04:07 / 05.08.04
Geffen's JLI stuff was just plain fun, and purely enjoyablefor me. I loved it. Anyone else remember the Peter david X-factor era? I think it was short lived, but its humor reminded me of the Geffen justice league....
 
 
Brigade du jour
09:01 / 05.08.04
I loved it when a bunch of rioters gathered outside the JLE headquarters in JLE#1 (IIRC) and one of them lobbed a brick through the window.

I could almost hear the extra exasperation in Captain Atom's already way too exasperated voice when he turned and said "Oh look, a brick."

In fact, that whole initial run (I think I still have the first fifteen or so issues) just cracked me up. Definitely the funniest superhero comics I'd ever read.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
10:07 / 05.08.04
I don't remember David Geffen's JLI

Bwah hah hah...
 
 
DavidXBrunt
17:56 / 06.08.04
Sadly I don't think I'll ever forget Keith Chegwins J.L.A.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
19:52 / 06.08.04
That was a weird run wasn't it? They all became alcoholics and then took their clothes off for cash.
 
  
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